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I can't see why they bother with the "Flight 93" conspiracy.

Pictures of plane debris don't convince him, testimonies from experts don't convince him.

What will? Seriously, what kind of evidence do you require Red?
 
RedIbis said:
Do you understand the difference between a quote and a picture?
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"As a state police fire marshal and criminal investigator, Trooper John F. Marshall has seen his share of gruesome crime scenes. "I found a lot of parts," said Marshall, who was awarded a 2000 Law Enforcement Agency Directors award for identifying a man nearly four years after he was found murdered. "The biggest part I found was one of the plane's engines. It was about 600 yards from the crash site itself. I think they took it out with a winch on a bulldozer." Marshall, who served four years in the Air Force, said he found many parts that he couldn't specifically identify.Whenever he found a suspected part, he would notify the FBI or United employees." - sharon-herald.com (10/08/01)
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"Bits of metal were thrown against a tree line like shrapnel, said state police spokesman Trooper Thomas Spallone of Troop A in Greensburg. Once it hit, everything just disintegrated,” he said. “There are just shreds of metal. The longest piece I saw was 2 feet long.” “We’re finding more debris in various locations,” Spallone said."
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I understand you don't have a clue.

Ironic that the people who died in this impact, they understand 9/11 in a few minutes and took action, you are so research challenged it has taken you over 6 years to mess it up so you don't have a clue. Why do you lack logic to figure out 9/11? Compared to the passengers on Flight 93, you are not doing very good.

Keep up the good work!
 
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TC329 said:
after seeing adam get fooled by your disinformation i thought i would temporarily take you off ignore just to humiliate you for old times sake.

please post a picture capturing the wooden area destroyed in the attack and indian lake. then prove those woods are south of the crash site and not west/southwest blast trajectory. the world will be waiting for you to admit you are both ignorant as an ass and completely wrong as usual.
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Several local people believe they hear a missile overhead just before Flight 93 goes down. Barry Lichty, a US Navy veteran and mayor of Indian Lake Borough (just to the east of where Flight 93 crashes), is watching television with his wife. He says he hears “a loud roar above the house that sounded like a missile.… Shortly thereafter, we heard an explosion and a tremor. My first reaction, as a former utility employee, was that maybe someone shot a missile into the substation.” He says Flight 93 “did not come over my house. I don’t know what we heard.” [Kashurba, 2002, pp. 158-159]



so what plane flew over his house prior to the crash in shanksville about a mile or two west of his house troll?




i don't know, what?

wally miller said the debris all blasted into that wooden area which is the opposite direction of indian lake. in fact all the 'bystanders' would be standing in this imaginary debris trail you insist exists but like always have no evidence to support your baseless insane conspiracy theories with.


you sure do beachy.....this is why you're on ignore with bobert.
2 peas in a pod and half a brain shared between you two......
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Down is south, left is west. Why are you wrong again? The lake is to the right.
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The debris flows to the south! 93 was heading south. I may be ignorant, but you think south is west; no wonder you are lost on 9/11 issues. Being wrong is not a healthy habit for me, I flew jets, but being wrong for you is your profession.

See the buildings SOUTH OF THE IMPACT?
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Debris, south of impact! Oops.
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South of 93 impact. I am ignorant (on tons of stuff), but your ideas are dirt dumb stupid wrong on 9/11. South. You have problems with, "saw it hit the building" too, right?


The Mayor never said he saw Flight 93 over his house, he heard the sound of Flight 93! That means you are making up the idea that 93 flew over Indian Lake. Pure fantasy, proven wrong by many other facts, evidence and witnesses. Sorry, you lost this one, next time don't make up lies you can back up with facts.

Wally Miller? You have a knack for not understanding how to interpret anything said by anybody! This proves that again.
You take testimony and twist it to fit your conclusion! You say flight 93 flew over the lake, someone hears a jet overhead, you use it! And you are wrong!
 
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U.S. Government Overlord #1: We need Flight 93 to take out WTC 7.

U.S. Government Overlord #2: So, why don't we shoot down flight 93? Then we can CD WTC 7 in such a bad way that a handful of sub-intellects will be able to figure us out.

U.S. Government Overlord #1: I'll get my top men on it.



Demonstrates just how fractured the "truthers" fantasies are. I mean, if they had anything conclusive or empirical, they'd all have one big circle jerk agree fest.
 
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applecorped said:
Get your jammies on. It's gonna be a long wait.
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That's the new approach I'm trying in dealing with these people.

I'm not going to be suckered into arguing endlessly about every little detail, and let them change the subject whenever they like and avoid the answers and the reality that they imply. I'm taking it one question at a time, and I'm not going to take no for an answer.
 
RedIbis said:
Please post quotes of people saying they handled "the plane." From what I've read of the quotes, most of them describe very small pieces of metal scattered around, described much like the scrap in the scrapyard a half mile away.
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Ok just where did the people go.
 
Dictator Cheney said:
why dont you belive the ppl that reported Explosions and think it was explosives?

why dont you belive withnesses that saw the plane on the northside of Citgo?
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Because there are conflicting and more supported statements arguing against the North of Citgo stastements and there is evidence of other, more plausiblle expalnations of most of the reproted "explosions" like the ones that Schroeder and Cacchioli heard.
 
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That's basicly what I would expect the debris from a crash at that speed into that substrate to look like. Bodies would be torn into pieces of about that size, too, if they were not buried in the impact crater, so that was what the coroner meant by there being no "bodies." There were gobbets of bodies,, but no actual intact bodies.
 
leftysergeant said:
That's basicly what I would expect the debris from a crash at that speed into that substrate to look like. Bodies would be torn into pieces of about that size, too, if they were not buried in the impact crater, so that was what the coroner meant by there being no "bodies." There were gobbets of bodies,, but no actual intact bodies.
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Then there's this video, which demonstrates what happens to airplanes in a high speed crash.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QrT6joi4gco

It is PSA Flight #1771, which is eerily similar to the crash of flight 93, right down to the first responder quotes, to the the impact crater, to the debris field. When I first saw this, I thought I was looking at Shanksville.

Flight 1771 was hijacked and purposely crashed. It went into the ground supersonic.
 
It also went into harder ground, at a steeper angle, which would keep more of the wreckage above ground and closer to the point of impact.

Good example of what is wrong with the twoofer approach to Flt 93.
 
Sarge

Seen a crash site up close and personal - Lear 35 came down 20 years ago just up
street. As member of FD walked the crash scene to mark body parts for coroner.

Didn't find much recognizable - half of torso, hand (minus fingers), several amputated
fingers.

Unlike "twofers" actually had to do something rather than mooch off Mommy watching
idiotic videos.
 
AJM8125 said:
Then there's this video, which demonstrates what happens to airplanes in a high speed crash.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QrT6joi4gco

It is PSA Flight #1771, which is eerily similar to the crash of flight 93, right down to the first responder quotes, to the the impact crater, to the debris field. When I first saw this, I thought I was looking at Shanksville.

Flight 1771 was hijacked and purposely crashed. It went into the ground supersonic.
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Must have been staged in preperation for 9/11, after all they claim that licences, IDs and even a sickbag with a note on it all survived and we all know that things like passports, licences, ID cards and paper bags can't survive an air crash.
 
AJM8125 said:
Then there's this video, which demonstrates what happens to airplanes in a high speed crash.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QrT6joi4gco

It is PSA Flight #1771, which is eerily similar to the crash of flight 93, right down to the first responder quotes, to the the impact crater, to the debris field. When I first saw this, I thought I was looking at Shanksville.

Flight 1771 was hijacked and purposely crashed. It went into the ground supersonic.
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Wow, not only does the hole in the ground look like Shanksville, but starting at the 8:45 mark in that video, the investigator mentions debris found 7 or 8 miles away from the crash site just like... at Shanksville! :jaw-dropp

Are you sure that plane wasn't shot down by a missle?
 
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