The deadly potential of dowsing

Water main leak in the Lakewood area of Dallas, TX. They had a back hoe, two service/parts trucks, and the street blocked off. What do they use to find the main? Dowsing rods...

If you're smart, you'll never wonder how tax dollars are spent. Those guys are professionals at milking the clock. One guy digging and five guys standing around. That's the way it is. I just hope they use coat hangers instead of buying the "professional" dowsing rods online.
 
skepticpagan said:
Water main leak in the Lakewood area of Dallas, TX. They had a back hoe, two service/parts trucks, and the street blocked off. What do they use to find the main? Dowsing rods...

If you're smart, you'll never wonder how tax dollars are spent. Those guys are professionals at milking the clock. One guy digging and five guys standing around. That's the way it is. I just hope they use coat hangers instead of buying the "professional" dowsing rods online.
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Yea, no one in private industry would ever use dowers.

Paul

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Heard a story last week about a dowser who supposedly located water which turned out to be too near a newly installed septic system to pass local health codes. The dowser drove an iron spike into the ground at the spot then banged on the side of the pipe with a hammer claiming he had moved the water to a location in compliance with the code.

Mind boggling.:boggled:
 
Next they will be writting a book and saying that some so-called god had something to do with it.

Paul

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Dowsing works if done by the right people, unfortunately many have one or two successes and then lose their way. All the neg. is shouted from the hilltop while the achievements go unknown. Understanding what we are dealing with is a cultural bomb, as it borders on witch craft in westerners minds. All the wonder about earth rays magnet power etc working the rods is hype, and doesn't help the cause. The dowser thinks of his target, water flowing, black phone lines or what ever and ( here is the clincher) he, she, expands his, her thoughts to remotely see the hidden target ,third eye stuff. I can select my target and ignore all others. Optus had me marking water mains just last week so to dodge digging them up with a new trench. One thing that spoils dowsing is material gain, that is why good psychic only require a donation. They don't want to be distracted with money.
 
Old Bob said:
Dowsing works if done by the right people, .... One thing that spoils dowsing is material gain, that is why good psychic only require a donation. They don't want to be distracted with money.
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I can't speak for JREF, but I doubt that Randi would mind if you agreed to do a test and agree beforehand that you would not do it for the million. Or just for a small donation for your travel expenses if you win. That would take the pressure off, and still convince a lot of people all over the world that you are right. All you have to do is apply.
 
Olowkow said:
I can't speak for JREF, but I doubt that Randi would mind if you agreed to do a test and agree beforehand that you would not do it for the million. Or just for a small donation for your travel expenses if you win. That would take the pressure off, and still convince a lot of people all over the world that you are right. All you have to do is apply.
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Yes, bring the test to me. I won't put up with nasty uniforms at the airports and as for getting a pass port, they can stick it. The one think I can't seem to get across is that right up to the seventeen century any one who had psychic abilities was got rid of,(witch hunt) now we are dosed with neurotoxins to do the same job. To foster psychic people would be a threat to the PTB. And if you are dosed you just can't take the possibility on.
 
Old Bob said:
Yes, bring the test to me. I won't put up with nasty uniforms at the airports and as for getting a pass port, they can stick it. The one think I can't seem to get across is that right up to the seventeen century any one who had psychic abilities was got rid of,(witch hunt) now we are dosed with neurotoxins to do the same job. To foster psychic people would be a threat to the PTB. And if you are dosed you just can't take the possibility on.
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Whatever. :confused:
 
Old Bob said:
Yes, bring the test to me. I won't put up with nasty uniforms at the airports and as for getting a pass port, they can stick it. The one think I can't seem to get across is that right up to the seventeen century any one who had psychic abilities was got rid of,(witch hunt) now we are dosed with neurotoxins to do the same job. To foster psychic people would be a threat to the PTB. And if you are dosed you just can't take the possibility on.
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Read this to find out about the challenge. http://www.randi.org/joom/challenge-info.html
 
Bob, a little reading of the site and the fora will show you that most testing is done close to or at the location of the applicant. There's nearly always a group of helpful skeptics nearby.

As rjh01 suggested above, read about the challenge, read the rules, read the FAQ if you're interested to see some examples and then apply. Applying doesn't take a lot of time, after all. Thrashing out the final protocol for your application may take a while, however.

The problem of personal/financial gain is easily solvable. Waiving the prize has been done before, I think. Another, oft suggested, way is to donate the prize to any cause you feel is appropriate. Grateful as they will undoubtedly be, I'm sure they will reimburse you for any expenses incurred along the way.

If you're the applicant, please do it. If you're merely the witness to working dowsing, please consider talking the dowser into the benefits of performing under controlled conditions once or, hopefully, twice.

I for one would love to see it - it would completely rock the foundations of some sciences. Pretty cool stuff!

Time to sharpen our pencils and take note - or possibly start ticking off the checklist...
 
Gas or electric ain't nuthin'. There are folks advocating dowsing for landmines. You know, "to protect the children of war-torn villages". And, presumably, to sell dowsing pendulums.

At the U., I have witnessed the groundskeepers locate a buried pipe using the detailed blueprints the gubmint has painstakingly put together... then "verify" the location of said pipe with a pair of bent wires.

*sigh*
 
Mercutio said:
At the U., I have witnessed the groundskeepers locate a buried pipe using the detailed blueprints the gubmint has painstakingly put together... then "verify" the location of said pipe with a pair of bent wires.

*sigh*
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It would be impressive if they could do that the other way round.
 
Old Bob said:
Yes, bring the test to me. I won't put up with nasty uniforms at the airports and as for getting a pass port, they can stick it. The one think I can't seem to get across is that right up to the seventeen century any one who had psychic abilities was got rid of,(witch hunt) now we are dosed with neurotoxins to do the same job. To foster psychic people would be a threat to the PTB. And if you are dosed you just can't take the possibility on.
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Magical thinking begets magical thinking begets mag........

Paul

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I'm so glad I don't live in such a little world.
 
Old Bob said:
One thing that spoils dowsing is material gain, that is why good psychic only require a donation. They don't want to be distracted with money.
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Let me get this straight. Being given money distracts psychics and stops dowsing from working, so instead they only require that people give them money. OK.:boggled:

Of course, this raises the obvious question of why you brought psychics up in a thread about dowsing.
 
Cuddles said:
Let me get this straight. Being given money distracts psychics and stops dowsing from working, so instead they only require that people give them money. OK.:boggled:

Of course, this raises the obvious question of why you brought psychics up in a thread about dowsing.
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Don't you understand, a donation is not money.

Magical thinking begets magical thinking begets mag........

Paul

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Old Bob said:
Dowsing ... Optus had me marking water mains just last week so to dodge digging them up with a new trench. ....
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Rubbish.

A utility would not rely on a "civilian" to locate infrastruction before they dug a trench. If on your property, and they were doing the trench digging, they would consult easement drawings, if water mains, they would contact the water board and the local council, not only for the locations but for permission to dig a trench.

They are as likely to dig a trench where a dowser has "located" water mains as would an oil company rely on a dowser to locate their well site.

You have evidence, of course, that backs your claim?
 
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