Well to prove I'm insane with reference to WMD, you have to tell us:
- the contents of those trucks that were observed going to Syria before the war (that a "credible" source told the ISG was WMD related)?
- the contents of the concrete bunker that was built under the Euphrates in 2002 (that locals said contained WMD) and that was looted before the CIA (in all it's *wisdom*) decided to take a look at it in 2006?
- why Iraq selectively sanitized files, computers and facilities thought related to WMD?
- where that binary sarin shell that turned up as an IED actually came from and how you *know* it was the only one?
- what the documents dated 2002 from Saddam that were found in Iraq but not translated until recently meant when they order "special" materials to be hidden?
- and, of course, why you think invading Iraq was only about finding completed WMD munitions?
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To prove I'm insane with respect to Clinton being involved in murder, you'll need to actually dispute the facts I've raised in this thread:
http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=119618 .
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And to prove I'm insane with respect to allegations that Clinton raped, assaulted, sexually harassed women, you need to address this:
Let's start with the Broaddrick rape.
It was a Democrat, David Schippers, who acted as the chief Clinton impeachment prosecutor in the House. A week before the House vote Schippers says he invited members of Congress to examine the secret evidence in the Ford Building. Many did so. In fact, Schippers says in his book that the evidence those Representatives saw was ultimately instrumental in causing the House to impeach Clinton.
Just days after the impeachment vote Arizona Rep. Matt Salmon told the Arizona Republic that what he saw in the Ford Building left him "nauseated." Delaware Rep. Mike Castle was reduced to tears, according to CNBC's Chris Matthews. Connecticut Rep. Chris Shays said on a talk radio that, based on secret evidence he reviewed during the impeachment controversy, he believes President Clinton raped Juanita Broaddrick, not once, but twice. Shays said "I believed that he had done it. I believed her that she had been raped 20 years ago. And it was vicious rapes, it was twice at the same event." Asked point blank if the president is a rapist, Shays said, "I would like not to say that it way. But the bottom line is that I believe that he did rape Broaddrick." Note that Shays told the NYTimes that the rape evidence briefly moved him into the pro-impeachment column. But then a personal meeting with Clinton changed his mind. Shays has a long history as a RINO.
Now when the matter went to the Senate, the House Majority Counsel opened the files again. When asked if any Senators of either party took the trouble to examine the material, Schippers said in disgust, "No, not a single one."
You see, it wasn't a real trial, as the mainstream media and Senate tried to portray to the public. In fact, Schippers quoted Senator Ted Stevens saying "Henry
(BAC - speaking to Henry Hyde of the House Managers), I don't care if you prove he raped a woman and then stood up and shot her dead---you're not going to get 67 votes?" After Stevens made that comment, Shippers said, "I just watched one hundred Senators raise their right hand to God and swear to do equal and impartial justice. I'm only a Democrat from Chicago, but are you telling me that the Senators are going to ignore that oath also?" Stevens' response: "You're damn right they are."
Now what did Schippers have to say about the Broaddrick allegation? First of all, Schippers discovered that Independent Counsel Starr had investigated Broaddrick's charges. The media reported it as inconclusive. But here is what Schippers says:
Schipper's staff next learned that Broaddrick's charges were corroborated by several witnesses interviewed by the OIC. So Schippers sent two of his investigators (the two who had first learned of the Broaddrick allegation) to Arkansas for a meeting with Broaddrick and her lawyer. At the meeting she was reluctant to acknowledge the assault but in a telephone conversation to the investigators later that day, she spilled her heart out. For an hour and a half, she described the ordeal. The investigator, who had worked with rape victims during her days on the Chicago police force, told Schippers, "Juanita fits the pattern of the classic rape victim." Schippers told the Washington Post that his staffers interviewed Broaddrick more than once and "have assured me that she is the most credible witness that either one of them have ever talked to." The interviewers at NBC came to the same conclusion. And a Fox News poll, following "Dateline's" Broaddrick interview, showed that 54 percent of Americans believed Broaddrick's allegation. Only 23 percent found the charges untrue.
Schippers said on a talk show that his staffers had developed evidence that showed obstruction of justice and PHYSICAL INTIMIDATION of witnesses related to the accusations of sexual harassment and rape against the president.
From his book, "
Sellout: The Inside Story of President Clinton's Impeachment":
When asked whether he would have called the Clinton rape accuser to testify had he known about the witness tampering in time, Schippers admitted, "Yes, I would have tried to do it." He also stated that had the statute of limitation on the rape not expired (it's only 6 years in Arkansas), he'd have prosecuted Clinton for rape. And I repeat ... this was a democrat who voted for Clinton twice.
Do you know that on MEET THE PRESS in February of 1999, Bill Bennet stated that Clinton's personal records document that he was at the hotel at the time of the rape. Bennet also said that White House staff on backgound were saying that Clinton was alone in the room with Broaddrick and that they had sex. Bill is the brother of Bob Bennet, the President's personal lawyer in the Jone's suit. It was Bob Bennett who supplied her with the first draft of the affidavit. A New York Times article said "On the advice of her lawyer, Bill Walters, a Republican state senator, she agreed to let him call a friend of his, Bruce Lindsey, White House deputy counsel, she said. After the call, the President's lawyer, Robert S. Bennett, faxed Walters an affidavit another woman had used to deny involvement with Clinton. She said Walters changed the names and facts and Mrs. Broaddrick signed it on January 2, 1998. Contacted Tuesday, Lindsey and Bennett would not comment."
Connect the dots.
During the Jones discovery Clinton made a 158 minute phone call to a "Juanita". This call was referred to by Monica in the Tripp tapes in the section where she questioned what they were going to do about her. Tripp later denied Broaddrick was the Juanita referred to by using a Clintonesque distinction - her name was not Broaddrick when she was raped. But the day after the phone call, Broaddrick had her lawyer apply to the White House counsel's office for a false affidavit sample.
Connect the dots.
After questions dealing with Monica Lewinsky’s false statements in her affidavit, denying sexual contact with the President, to which Clinton had earlier asserted was "absolutely true," one of the OIC lawyers asked Bill Clinton why he had allowed his lawyer, Bob Bennett, to tell a federal judge that "there is absolutely no sex of any kind." Clinton responded "Well, in the present tense that is an accurate statement." He later responded to a direct question concerning the "completely false" nature of his statement: " ''It depends on what the meaning of the word 'is' is. If the -- if he -- if 'is' means is and never has been, that is not -- that is one thing. If it means there is none, that was a completely true statement." (Yes, the famous "is" statement of Clinton's). Now this is the same Bob Bennett who Clinton used to issue his Clintonesque denial in the Broaddrick case.
Connect the dots.
Do you know that DOZENS of women have come forward to allege harassment, assault and rape by Clinton over the years? Don't believe me? Well let me prove it.
"Gennifer Flowers, Paula Jones, Kathleen Willey, Liz Ward Gracen, Juanita Broaddrick, Sally Perdue -- all women linked to Clinton through both consensual and nonconsensual sexual encounters who have alleged over the last eight years that they were targets of everything from Clinton-inspired burglaries to IRS audits to death threats. Gary Johnson, a neighbor of Flowers who claimed to have videotaped evidence of her relationship with Clinton, was severely beaten and left for dead just days before the 1992 Democratic convention. Longtime Clinton critic Larry Nichols, who filed a landmark lawsuit in 1990 naming Flowers, Broaddrick and three other women linked to Clinton, was assaulted by a baseball bat-wielding thug outside his Arkansas home earlier this year." And those aren't my words ... they are Schippers (remember him?). That's 6.
Then we can add Monica Lewinsky (or do you think what Bill did to her was proper, especially given the testimony that just before the dress appeared he was ready to paint her as a "stalker"?), Dolly Kyle Browning, Katherine Prudhomme (an ordinary citizen who was audited because she dared ask Gore a question about the Broaddrick rape) and the "Juanita" that Monica and Tripp discussed (and about whom Tripp said "this was a woman whose relationship with the president would have again gone to the pattern of behavior -- which was precisely what the Paula Jones attorneys were searching for ... This was a woman with whom we thought the President might have difficulty") Unless you want to admit here and now that the Juanita they talked about was indeed Broaddrick, that's 10.
Then in 1969, Oxford University asked Clinton not to return after Eileen Wellston charged that he raped her. Clinton admitted having sex with the girl, but claimed it was consensual. In his book, Unlimited Access, former FBI agent Gary Aldrich reported that Clinton left Oxford and was told he was no longer welcome. In 1972, a 22-year-old woman told campus police at Yale University that she was sexually assaulted by Clinton, who was a law student at the college. No charges were filed, but retired campus policemen contacted by Capitol Hill Blue confirmed the incident. The woman, tracked down by Capitol Hill Blue, confirmed the incident, but declined to discuss it. In 1974, a University of Arkansas student said Professor Clinton groped her and forced his hand inside her blouse. Several former students at the University confirmed the incident in confidential interviews and said there were other reports of Clinton attempting to force himself on female students. In 1979, Little Rock legal secretary Carolyn Moffet said Clinton tried to force her to perform oral sex in a hotel room at a fundraiser. That's 14.
In 1991, Sandra Allen James, a political fundraiser said Clinton invited her to his hotel room, pinned her against the wall and stuck his hand up her dress. She said she screamed loud enough for the Arkansas State Trooper stationed outside the hotel room to ask if everything was all right, at which point Clinton released her and she fled the room. When she reported the incident to her boss, he advised her to keep her mouth shut. In 1992, Christy Zercher, a flight attendant on Clinton's campaign plane, said Clinton exposed himself to her, grabbed her breasts and made explicit remarks about oral sex. A video shot on board the plane by ABC News shows an obviously inebriated Clinton with his hand between another young flight attendant's legs. Zercher said later in an interview that White House attorney Bruce Lindsey tried to pressure her into not going public about the assault. That's 17 (even though one's not named).
Paula Jone's lawyer in her lawsuit also named Beth Coulsen, Shelia Lawrence, Marilyn Jo Jenkins, Cyd Dunlap and Cathy Ford as women Clinton had either assaulted or harassed. That's 22.
Former Arkansas state trooper L.D. Brown, who served on then-Governor Bill Clinton's security detail from 1982 through 1985, in 1994 told the The American Spectator that he personally solicited over a hundred women for Clinton. I wonder if any of them objected? After all, from 1978-1980, state troopers reported seven complaints from women claiming Clinton attempted to force sex upon them. Let's just count those, that's 29.
And then one could add this from a STAR Magazine report (which oftened happened to be quite accurate in discussing Clinton): Citing "never before seen FBI files -- now "kept under lock and key by Congress," ace reporter Richard Gooding reveals: "Clinton made passes at several female White House Secret Service agents," and "at least two more women claim to have had encounters with Clinton similiar to Juanita Broaddrick" "Three female agents have told colleagues of presidential hanky-panky, including one who is said to have filed a complaint that (Clinton) frequently 'hit on her,' sources say. That agent later withdrew the complaint when her request for a transfer was granted." "The secret FBI files contain even more serious allegations of brutish behavior against Clinton. According to one insider, there is the story of the wife of a former top Clinton aide who has confided that the president once pinned her against the wall, ignoring her protests, as he ran his hands over her body -- virtually a carbon copy of the Oval Office groping episode described last year by Kathleen Willey." "Also in the files are confidential FBI interviews with at least two women who claim to have had experiences similar to the 1978 rape alleged by 'Jane Doe #5', Juanita Broaddrick." I know its the "STAR" but the STAR did break the Gennifer Flowers bombshell in 1992 and followed-up with Gooding's 1996 expose on presidential guru Dick Morris' fling with a Washington hooker. But OK ... we won't count these. We don't need to.
And we mustn't forget Hillary. You don't really want to claim she wasn't abused ... do you? So let's see ... that adds up to 30 women. A lot of them Democrats. All of them hurt in one way or another. All of them proving I'm not insane but that you are, for still believing in Bill Clinton and Hillary.
