John McCain Quotes

[joobz]

... Yeah, what a fine gentleman.

The joke seems out of character for him. I would be shocked to know that he indeed said it as written.

Intruth, I don't even get the joke.

 

[joobz]

So I decided to investigate. And found this:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/07/15/sources-recall-mccains-jo_n_112955.html



Did you get that? The person who originally started this smear by putting the statement in quotes indicating it's a direct quote said "I'm not sure exactly what the wording was of the joke". Who really knows what he actually said given the eagerness of people to hear what they want to hear. Notice that Coile called Torrie Clark's statement a "non-denial denial"? I don't read it that way. But that's what she wants to hear.

Frankly, I'm far more disgusted by the behavior of Democrats in this case than by ANY joke that McCain did OR DID NOT tell. Your party supported Clinton long after we all learned he was probably a SERIAL RAPIST. So if you want to raise this as an issue in this campaign go ahead. I'll be happy to talk about the attitude of Democrats towards rape.

For example, the Democrat supporting women's organization NOW stuck with Clinton even after all the allegations (many proven) that Clinton assaulted, abused and harassed women. In response to the allegation that he committed rape, NOW's president, Patricia Ireland, said those choosing to dwell on Juanita Broaddrick's claims should "stop wasting time on unprovable charges." Keep in mind that the charges were deemed credible by the FBI agents who investigated them and that Schippers (a Democrat, by the way) wrote in his book that if the statute of limitation hadn't expired on the crime he'd have charged Clinton with the rape. He was that convinced by the evidence they had (much of it now unfortunately sealed away from the public eye). Polls showed that the majority of Americans believed Juanita Broaddrick. Yet NOW (a major supporter of the Democrats) advised us to ignore those charges.

Disgusted doesn't even begin to describe my feelings about Democrats and those who NOW claim to be aghast at McCain's ALLEGED joke.

It's funny how quick you are to dissmiss this due to hearsay and unsubstantiated evidence, yet are so quick to believe WMD in Iraq when there has been NO evidence of such a thing.

 

[WildCat]

to Budget Committee Chairman and fellow GOP Senator Pete Domenici in a Senate budget hearing

I don't put much stock in unsourced quotes, but have you seen the budgets the last 8 years? The record deficits? The out-of-control spending?

I sure as hell agree with the sentiment, YMMV.

 

[Alferd_Packer]

Couldn't you find any relating to his Keating Five days?

Funny how that keeps being forgotten. You'd think "massive corruption scandal" would be something to haunt a presidential candidate.

No problem.

John McCain to the government regulators in a meeting to try to get the regulators off of Keating's case:

"One of our jobs as elected officials is to help constituents in a proper fashion. ACC is a big employer and important to the local economy. I wouldn't want any special favors for them.... I don't want any part of our conversation to be improper."

After being censured by the ethics committee for "poor judgment" John McCain said:

"The appearance of it was wrong. It's a wrong appearance when a group of senators appear in a meeting with a group of regulators, because it conveys the impression of undue and improper influence. And it was the wrong thing to do."

John McCain's champaign spokesman in 2008:

"It's a shame that the New York Times has chosen to smear John McCain like this," said Charles R. Black Jr., a top adviser to McCain's current presidential campaign and the head of a Washington lobbying firm called BKSH & Associates. "Neither Senator McCain nor the campaign will dignify false rumors and gossip by responding to them. John McCain has never done favors for anyone, not lobbyists or any special interest. That's a clear 24-year record."

Flip, flop and fly
I dont care if I die
Flip, flop and fly
I dont care if I die
Dont ever leave me
Dont ever say goodbye

 

[ProbeX]

The joke seems out of character for him. I would be shocked to know that he indeed said it as written.

Intruth, I don't even get the joke.

Out of character for someone who publically calls his wife a c*nt and jokes about bombing Iran? ... who jokes that we should ship over some cigarettes to the Iranians to speed up their deaths (I can provide that link, it you'd like)? Who has stated many times that he hates "gooks" (that'd be Asians) and always will?

And I see why you don't get his rape joke ... that's because it isn't funny unless you have a twisted, sick mind. McCain - now that's not change we can believe in, Friends.

 

[Alferd_Packer]

McCain:

"I hated the gooks. I will hate them as long as I live."

 

[ProbeX]

Couldn't you find any relating to his Keating Five days?

Funny how that keeps being forgotten. You'd think "massive corruption scandal" would be something to haunt a presidential candidate.

Seems he's gotten away with murder so far. He'd better be sure and say as little as possible during the debates.

His character, temper and IQ/memory problems are going to spill out of him like a vast, crap-laden ocean, and the press won't be able to save him from the fallout of their real time coverage.

 

[Alferd_Packer]

McCain:

"I hated the gooks. I will hate them as long as I live."

 

[Alferd_Packer]

If McCain feels this way:

"I will call right now, my interrogator that tortured me, a gook," McCain said. "(I can't believe that) anybody doesn't believe these interrogators and prison guards were cruel and sadistic people who deserve the worst appellations possible. Gook, is the kindest appellation I can give."

and he has said this about waterboarding:

“is not a complicated procedure. It is torture.”

and has called it

“very exquisite torture.”

Then why did he vote AGAINST the Intelligence Authorization Bill which would have banned the practice of waterboarding?

 

[Peephole]

Thanks for bringing these McCain quotes to everyone's attention. Because with regard to the initial combat with Saddam's military, he was correct in his predictions ... contrary to many of the folks in your party, who were at the time claiming we'd lose the initial combat phase against Saddam's military.

The initial combat? When did combat ever end?

And my party? I'm not quite suite the Socialistische Partij Anders made that detailed statements about the war in Iraq.

And this prediction also turned out to be true. Coalition forces were indeed greeted as liberators by the Iraqi people.

They were SO greeted as liberators by the Iraqis that the war continues up to five years later. Face it, McBush sold the war to the American people by claiming it would be a cakewalk and it turned out to be a catastrophe.

He wasn't talking about being against the war or invasion. He was talking about the manner in which the war was fought the past 4 years. So here's the question. Did he come back from his first trip and complain about the way the war was being fought and if so, when was that? And what did he recommend at the time?

McCain's first visit to Iraq was in August 2003. He kept making ignorant and false statements (about the way the war was fought) up until at least December 2005

So guess what Peephole. That was exactly the area where General Petraeus was an expert. Counterinsurgency. Soon as we put that type of expert in charge, look at what happened? Soon as Bush demonstrated (via the surge) that we were there to stay, look at what happened? We are now decisively winning. McCain was right ... 4 years ago. And Obama was COMPLETELY WRONG. Then AND now.

Decisively winning? What's the definition of victory even?

The surge was a complete disaster, it never even was a surge to begin with but a permanent troop reinforcement that continues 1.5 years later. And the political goals were not met.

If you're talking about a reducement in violence to 2005 levels, well that's not that hard with Baghdad de facto ethnically cleansed, Sadr's forces standing down and the U.S. bribing the militias to fight on their side.

Hey, maybe all those guys will remain calm but with the limited political progress, I'm not all that optimistic.

 

[Cain]

I looked at your source for this. It's a rather rabid liberal blogger. One who apparently likes the Clintons and Al Gore. You do know, don't you, that there are credible allegations (not jokes) about Clinton raping and abusing various women over the years? Ever hear of a woman named Broaddrick? You did hear about the exchange between a women and Al Gore concerning the Broaddrick rape allegation, where Gore essentially said it was ok if Clinton raped a women because he was such a great President? This blogger supports those people but objects to a joke? Sheeesh.

Genetic fallacy. Irrelevant. Pathetic.

Besides, was the joke actually told by McCain? Go to the source link on your blogger's web page and you find this:

So I decided to investigate. And found this:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/07/15/sources-recall-mccains-jo_n_112955.html

Did you get that? The person who originally started this smear by putting the statement in quotes indicating it's a direct quote said "I'm not sure exactly what the wording was of the joke". Who really knows what he actually said given the eagerness of people to hear what they want to hear. Notice that Coile called Torrie Clark's statement a "non-denial denial"? I don't read it that way. But that's what she wants to hear.

You're not very bright, Columbo. When witnesses put together a joke they will most likely NOT get the exact wording. But multiple independent sources retelling an offensive joke will in all likelihood get the set up and the punchline. And it's not as though this "joke" is out of character.

There's no sense reasoning with you though. What if you accepted 100% that he said it? What would that change? You're reverting back to irrelevant attacks on Clinton:

Frankly, I'm far more disgusted by the behavior of Democrats in this case than by ANY joke that McCain did OR DID NOT tell.

And...

Your party supported Clinton long after we all learned he was probably a SERIAL RAPIST...

Which political party do you think that is? I am not a Democrat, and I have never voted for a Democrat for Senate, Governor, or President. You're ****ing deranged.

 

[BeAChooser]

It's funny how quick you are to dissmiss this due to hearsay and unsubstantiated evidence

Did you even bother to read what the original source of the claimed McCain quote said? Let me repeat that: "I'm not sure exactly what the wording was of the joke".

What does that tell you about this reporter? She QUOTED McCain in her article saying those words ... when he apparently did not say those "exact" words ... without telling folks that she wasn't sure exactly what was said. You do know what quote marks mean when used in an article, don't you? Well I'm dismissing this allegation because the ONLY named source so far claiming that joke was made clearly was dishonest in her reporting. And the rest of what she said suggested she had a hidden Democrat bias. Whereas Sam Stein at the Huffington Post, who reported that, did what journalists are supposed to do. Print the facts.

And would you like to speak to the hypocrisy of the feminists who are up in arms about this claimed joke? I mentioned NOW's response about Clinton's alleged rape of a women? Do you have a comment or are you just going to ignore that the second time around too? And let me close with some REAL quotes that you can verify the person actually said.

Juanita Broaddrick: "It was a real panicky, panicky situation. I was even to the point where I was getting very noisy, you know, yelling to ‘Please stop.’ And that’s when he pressed down on my right shoulder and he would bite my lip."

Juanita Broaddrick: "When everything was over with, he got up and straightened himself, and I was crying at the moment and he walks to the door, and calmly puts on his sunglasses. And before he goes out the door he says ‘You better get some ice on that.’ And he turned and went out the door."

And you know who the "he" was in the above quotes. Democrats adore him ... or at least they did until Obama came along.

yet are so quick to believe WMD in Iraq when there has been NO evidence of such a thing.

"NO evidence"?

http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=119954

 

[joobz]

Did you even bother to read what the original source of the claimed McCain quote said? Let me repeat that: "I'm not sure exactly what the wording was of the joke".

Yes. it's circumstantial.

"NO evidence"?

http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=119954

yes. It's circumstantial.

Thanks for playing.

 

[BeAChooser]

It's funny how quick you are to dissmiss this due to hearsay and unsubstantiated evidence, yet are so quick to believe WMD in Iraq when there has been NO evidence of such a thing.

By the way, joobz, just because you are unable to effectively argue that topic on threads where that is indeed the subject, don't think you can get away with mischaracterizing my reasons for believing Iraq had WMD and what I've presented on that subject numerous times on this forum.

 

[BeAChooser]

McCain:
Quote:
"I hated the gooks. I will hate them as long as I live."

Do you blame him for having strong emotions in that area?

 

[joobz]

Out of character for someone who publically calls his wife a c*nt and jokes about bombing Iran?

The first quote I have no business commenting on, and neither do you. I think it rather tasteless to get in between a husband and wife spat, except in cases of abuse.
as for the second, it was definitely tasteless and stupid. I think he was wrong for that.

... who jokes that we should ship over some cigarettes to the Iranians to speed up their deaths (I can provide that link, it you'd like)? Who has stated many times that he hates "gooks" (that'd be Asians) and always will?

The first was stupid, the second is a point has has addressed. I do not fault a POW holding animosity towards his captors. And it seems that "gooks" doesn't mean asians to him.


BTW, I do not plan on voting for McCain, but I do not see a reason to complain about dumb things.

 

[BeAChooser]

Seems he's gotten away with murder so far.

I'm curious, ProbeX ... how do you feel about the rapes by Bill Clinton and the curious circumstances surrounding the death of Ron Brown? Now Bill Clinton is someone who may literally have gotten away with murder. And rape. Were you a supporter of his? Just asking. Call it a hypocrisy litmus test.

 

[Darth Rotor]

Did you hear the one about the woman who is attacked on the street by a gorilla, beaten senseless, raped repeatedly and left to die? When she finally regains consciousness and tries to speak, her doctor leans over to hear her sigh contently and to feebly ask, ‘Where is that marvelous ape?’ --John McCain 1986

http://www.crooksandliars.com/2008/07/15/did-you-hear-john-mccains-womanrapegorilla-joke/

Nope. The punch line to that joke is

She looks at the doctor with a tear in her eye and says:

"He never writes."

I've been telling that joke for nigh on thirty years. It's older than I am, possibly older than my grandfather.

DR

 

[joobz]

Nope. The punch line to that joke is

She looks at the doctor with a tear in her eye and says:

"He never writes."

I've been telling that joke for nigh on thirty years. It's older than I am, possibly older than my grandfather.

DR

I still don't get it.

 

[ProbeX]

I'm curious, ProbeX ... how do you feel about the rapes by Bill Clinton and the curious circumstances surrounding the death of Ron Brown? Now Bill Clinton is someone who may literally have gotten away with murder. And rape. Were you a supporter of his? Just asking. Call it a hypocrisy litmus test.

Hate to kill your high but I'm not a Dem (or a Pub). Billary and McBush all seem to have major character defects that make them unpresidential.



And no, I did not vote for Bill Clinton.