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I can't see why they bother with the "Flight 93" conspiracy.

Walter Ego said:
It's more than an opinion that some passengers were planning to storm the cockpit of Flight 93 and probably did storm it. That scenario is backed up by testimony (phone calls from passengers stating that intention) and the cockpit voice recordings and the erratic maneuvering of the plane before it crashed.
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USA Today
The relatives of the passengers and crewmembers also said they heard the sounds of screaming, yelling and rushing wind moments before the jet crashed in a field near Shanksville, Pa.
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i bet even you can figure out whats wrong above....
 
RKOwens4 said:
I think the truthers don't want to accept the fact that the passengers were able to overpower the hijackers because it goes in the face of their claim that "19 hijackers with boxcutters couldn't have pulled off this attack so successfully!" because when it comes to Flight 93, the hijackers WEREN'T able to successfully pull off their mission, despite boxcutters (and knives, and a bomb, and what was thought to be a gun).
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yeah i cant figure out why the government would shoot the plane down out of fear the revolt would be successful and their entire operation would have been exposed had there been a safe landing.

They'd rather say the government shot it down. Of course, if they also believe that the government was the ones who put these planes up in the air, and therefore presumably had control over Flight 93, then it makes no sense why they would shoot down their own plane.
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yes it does the passengers revolting would jeopardize the entire operation. you don't put your 'critical thinking' hat on when you come here, do you?

If WTC7 is the smoking gun for the 9/11 truth movement, then Flight 93 is its Achilles Heel. No matter how you look at it, there's no logical way of it fitting into any overall conspiracy picture.
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yeah now i remember why i was able to run you off the lc boards.....lol
 
johnny karate said:
Who cares. The crash and its wreckage are verified by numerous witnesses and first responders. None of these people have expressed the slightest doubt or suspicion that anything other than the crash of United 93 took place there.

Why is that not good enough for you?
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lol you can tell who has actually spoken to people and who hasn't thats for sure.....
 
Dictator Cheney said:
is there any evidence that they found bodys in the crater?
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no there is no photographic evidence of such.

there were remains photographed outside the crater.

remains said to have been recovered from inside arrived at the DMORT set up where wally miller and company were. there was no official documentation to their recovery locations.

wally miller also wasn't allowed to grid the field properly as is done with all airplane crashes the fbi was opposed to it saying there wasn't enough man power.
 
Mr.Herbert said:
Truthers:

Do some REAL research. Contact the folks that were there. You know you won't. But just in case... here are some names and contact information. (thanks Gravy)

Paul Sledzik, Curator Armed Forces Institute of Pathology National Museum of Health and Medicine
Leader of flight 93 Disaster Mortuary (Team DMORT) Emil: sledzik@email.afip.osd.mil –

Dr. Dennis C. Dirkmaat, Chief Scientific Advisor to Somerset County Coroner's office in the flight 93 investigation; Director, Applied Forensic Sciences Department, Mercyhurst College, 501 E. 38th St. Erie, PA 16546 Email: dirkmaat@mercyhurst.edu –


Disaster Mortuary Team Main office: 1-800-USA-NDMS, ext. 205
DMORT Region 3 office (includes Pennsylvania) 410-676-4600

Wally Miller: Somerset County Coroner's Office: 555 Tayman Avenue, Somerset, PA 15501

you can also contact the many agencies that were there:

Shanksville Volunteer Fire Company,
Stoystown Volunteer Fire Company,
Central City Fire Department,
Berlin Fire Department,
Friedens Volunteer Fire Department,
Listie Volunteer Fire Company,
Somerset Volunteer Fire Department,
Somerset Ambulance Association,
Hooversville Volunteer Fire Department,
and the Hooversville Rescue Squad.

Shanksville Volunteer Fire Company Assistant Fire Chief Rick King

Shanksville Fire Chief Terry Shaffer

Former firefighter Dave Fox

Local FBI agent Wells Morrison

Jon Meyer, a reporter with WJAC-TV

Faye Hahn, an EMT

Rick Lohr: Director of Somerset County Emergency Management Agency
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lol

your about to eat those words.....
 
Exactly what operation would the passengers have rumbled?

What would have been discovered if the plane had been taken back by the passengers and a hollywood style landing by one of the passengers at an airport had happened?

What plane shot it down and what type of missile would it have been?

Why did a missile hit not show on the FDR/CVR data?
 
TC329 said:
thats because there are none. trust me i did the contacting for you. :D
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Why would there be?

Does this mean you have actually contacted someone on this list? Let me guess, Wally Miller? I hope you will not misrepresent his words like most scumbag truthers?
 
mmmh the conspiracy-deniers more and more resort to namecalling, figures.
 
So the entire theory that UA93 did not crash in Shanksville, is based on a lack of PUBLICLY AVAILABLE photographic evidence, and that the photos available "don't look right" to the untrained eyes of people who are not CRASH SITE INVESTIGATORS.

Brilliant.

And that is the "mainstream" truther theory...I am not even going to touch the fringe of fringe stuff...lol

TAM:)
 
Don't you see that TC329 has re-interviewed everyone involved, and they have admitted their complicity in an immense conspiracy? Or so he is hinting. And poor Red I., I guess, expects to see the oft-cited Wiley Coyote equivalent outline of flight 93 in the ground -- or else it won't count. A ditch indeed.

Makes me think of a favorite literary quote ... Mary McCarthy (?) said of Lillian Hellman something like, "Every word she says is a lie, including 'a' and 'the'." (I'd look up the exact wording but I should go to work now.)
 
so the entire official theory about 93 is based on what we got told and was never proven....

brilliant
 
a wiley coyote like imprint is what we got presented........
and the conspiracy-deniers dont even rise an eyebrow.......
LOL
 
Dictator Cheney said:
a wiley coyote like imprint is what we got presented........
and the conspiracy-deniers dont even rise an eyebrow.......
LOL
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Why would the government fake a 'wile e. coyote like imprint' if it's just so obvious to internet sleuths like you that it's wrong?

Why not fake a 'real plane crash?' Did it just slip their minds?
 
SDC said:
Don't you see that TC329 has re-interviewed everyone involved, and they have admitted their complicity in an immense conspiracy? Or so he is hinting. And poor Red I., I guess, expects to see the oft-cited Wiley Coyote equivalent outline of flight 93 in the ground -- or else it won't count. A ditch indeed.

Makes me think of a favorite literary quote ... Mary McCarthy (?) said of Lillian Hellman something like, "Every word she says is a lie, including 'a' and 'the'." (I'd look up the exact wording but I should go to work now.)
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Like I said, I am not going to touch the fringe stuff...

TAM:)
 
Dictator Cheney said:
so the entire official theory about 93 is based on what we got told and was never proven....

brilliant
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No, for flight 93, the official story is based upon witness testimony, phone calls, FBI Investigation, crash site investigation testimony, first responder testimony, coroner testimony and DNA analysis.

So like Red, I will assume that short of being allowed access to the original plane debris and the original DNA samples, you assume it is all lies...The coroner, the FBI, all lying to you.

And you wonder why the "truth" seven years later, remains a small collection of paranoiacs.

TAM:)
 
T.A.M. said:
No, for flight 93, the official story is based upon witness testimony, phone calls, FBI Investigation, crash site investigation testimony, first responder testimony, coroner testimony and DNA analysis.

So like Red, I will assume that short of being allowed access to the original plane debris and the original DNA samples, you assume it is all lies...The coroner, the FBI, all lying to you.

And you wonder why the "truth" seven years later, remains a small collection of paranoiacs.

TAM:)
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like i thought, no evidence that the presented imprint is indeed the crashscene :)
 
John Blonn said:
Why would the government fake a 'wile e. coyote like imprint' if it's just so obvious to internet sleuths like you that it's wrong?

Why not fake a 'real plane crash?' Did it just slip their minds?
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for US education standards, it was enough :)
 
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