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New Revised Saudi Textbooks Still Teach Hate

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Is it any wonder that most of the 9/11 terrorists were Saudis, when even today in the latest revisions Saudi textbooks still teach things like this:

Q. Is belief true in the following instances:
a) A man prays but hates those who are virtuous.
b) A man professes that there is no deity other than God but loves the unbelievers.
c) A man worships God alone, loves the believers, and hates the unbelievers.
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c) is the correct answer. :boggled:

I know! Let's boycott Saudi oil until they fix this! :covereyes
 
Don't crap on Bush's good friends now, he has to hold hands with these people.

Some more extracts from school textbooks said:
"The last hour won't come before the Muslims would fight the Jews and the Muslims will kill them so Jews would hide behind rocks and trees. Then the rocks and tree would call: oh Muslim, oh servant of God! There is a Jew behind me, come and kill him. Only "Gharkad" tree, it is of Jews' trees."

Questions for discussion

1/ What was the prophecy of the Prophet Mohammed (PBUH) in this Hadith?

2/ What is the name of the tree that will tell about the Jews?

3/ At the end, who will be victorious?

4/ What should the Muslims arm themselves with against the Jews?
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Not surprising. And my general impression is that most Muslims outside the Kingdom despise the Saudis and their brand of Sunni Islam that is still stuck in the 11th century (I've personally been told this by people from Muslim countries as different as Iran, Qatar, and Indonesia).

Yet Bush and Abdullah are buds, so it's all good. :rolleyes:
 
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Allen773 said:
Not surprising. And my general impression is that most Muslims outside the Kingdom despise the Saudis and their brand of Sunni Islam that is still stuck in the 11th century (I've personally been told this by people from Muslim countries as different as Iran, Qatar, and Indonesia).
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You think Iran's Shiites aren't every bit as backwards as the Sunnis in SA?
 
Ziggurat said:
Does this mean that you agree with the "correct" answer in the original post?
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I have seen this type of misinformation before, The questions and answers have been mistranslated by Islamophobes to spread lies and hate towards muslims.
 
Sunni Man said:
I have seen this type of misinformation before, The questions and answers have been mistranslated by Islamophobes to spread lies and hate towards muslims.
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How do you know it's a mistranslation? If you can read Arabic, why don't you provide us with a correct translation? If you cannot, or do not have access to the original text, why don't you provide a source indicating that it's a mistranslation?

But either way, you haven't actually answered my question. So consider the question and answers from the original post on their own. You may even consider that I am posing that question to you. Which of the answers (a, b, or c) is closest to what you believe? If you think that (c) is not correct, why is it not correct?
 
Just in furtherance of skeptical inquiry, ARE we assured that this is indeed the proper translation of this particular tidbit?

Is there some possibility that the word being presented as "hate" may be translated in a different manner?
 
The Qur’an Says that Allah does NOT Love Unbelievers.

It doesn't say he Hates them.

That is the difference and an example of the mistranslation




For He loves Not those who reject Faith (30:45)

Say: "Obey Allah and His Messenger": But if they turn back, Allah loveth not those who reject Faith. (3:32)

Surely Allah does not love any one who is unfaithful, ungrateful. (22:38)

And Allah's is the direction of the way, and some (roads) go not straight. And had He willed He would have led you all aright. (16:9)

Those who reject our Signs, We shall soon cast into the Fire: as often as their skins are roasted through, We shall change them for fresh skins, that they may taste the penalty: for Allah is Exalted in Power, Wise. (4:56)
 
New Revised Saudi Textbooks Still Teach Hate



And for further Breaking News: a bear was found defecating in a forest today!!
 
WildCat said:
You think Iran's Shiites aren't every bit as backwards as the Sunnis in SA?
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Yes. In fact, most Iranians despise their government and wish for democracy. But their government has the military...

If given the choice, I'd rather live in Iran than Saudi Arabia.
 
Sunni Man said:
The Qur’an Says that Allah does NOT Love Unbelievers.

It doesn't say he Hates them.

That is the difference and an example of the mistranslation
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But we're not talking about the Qur'an, we're talking about a Saudi textbook. That mistranslations of the Qur'an exist does not mean that this translation of a Saudi textbook is a mistranslation.

And once again you didn't answer my question. While you say that the Qur'an doesn't say that Allah hates unbelievers, that doesn't answer the question of whether or not believers can hate unbelievers, or whether or not they can love unbelievers (for example, since Allah doesn't love unbelievers, is it forbidden for believers to do so?). Your silence on the matter is... troubling. But sadly, not surprising.
 
Bikewer said:
Just in furtherance of skeptical inquiry, ARE we assured that this is indeed the proper translation of this particular tidbit?

Is there some possibility that the word being presented as "hate" may be translated in a different manner?
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Here is the link to the original report (PDF).

The source is the Center for Religious Freedom of the Hudson Institute with the Institute for Gulf Affairs.

Here is the SourceWatch page on the Hudson Institute

I guess you will have to draw your own conclusions from that.
 
The extract from the textbook I quoted was provided by an ex-Saudi. I thus highly doubt it is a mistranslation.

ETA, http://english.aljazeera.net/news/asia/2008/07/2008722155854714876.html
Mustafa Abu al-Yazid, a veteran al-Qaeda leader, has said the suicide bomber who attacked the Danish embassy in Islamabad, Pakistan, last month travelled from the Muslim holy city of Mecca in Saudi Arabia.

Yazid told Geo TV News in an exclusive interview aired on Monday that the bomber was a young man from the land "where the Prophet was born", the "land of Mecca".
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