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SweatyYeti's Martian Civilization Evidence Thread

jnelso99 wrote:
Specifically, the left half is human, the right half is lion. Or that's what he's been claiming since the high-res images came out...
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That's not true, jnel.
Richard Hoagland first made that claim long before the MGS got to Mars.

Here's the Lion flipped-image he made from one of the original Viking images....before 1998...

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The 2001 MGS high-resolution image reinforced Hoagland's Human/Lion theory of the Face.
 
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Astrophotographer said:
Actually, when you look at the MRO image:

You will see that the "details" you claim are there are not in the correct place for an "eye".
The "eye" is actually hanging off the eyebrow and not placed in the "eye socket" of the "face".
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The details which are there look very much like an eye....period.

You say that they're "not in the right place", Astro....but I think that they are. That's simply a difference of opinion.
 
SweatyYeti said:
The details which are there look very much like an eye....period.

You say that they're "not in the right place", Astro....but I think that they are. That's simply a difference of opinion.
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At least crow logic is coherent SOME of the time. Is it your destiny Sweaty to cling to every two bit hoax out there and argue it well past the dead horse stage?

Just curious. You seem to be giving Creekfreak a severe run for the money here.
 
SweatyYeti said:
The details which are there look very much like an eye....period.

You say that they're "not in the right place", Astro....but I think that they are. That's simply a difference of opinion.
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That is your opinion. If you have your pupil hanging off your eyebrow, then I guess you may be right. Mine happens to reside in my eye socket. Most people seem to have their eyes that way. Then again, maybe the martians had their eyes that way. Still looking for the eye on the other side of the "nose". Can't find it.

BTW, again I ask the question, how did you determine it was "against all odds"?
 
Here's a little more information about NASA's release of the "Catbox" image in 1998....

According to Prof. Tom Van Flandern's website...

http://www.metaresearch.org/solar system/cydonia/proof_files/proof.asp

...this is the "HIGH-RESOLUTION" :boggled: image that was released to the public by JPL....

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This is the caption below the picture, on his site...

Figure 3. High-pass-filtered “Face” image released by JPL to the world media.
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An excerpt from the website...

As a direct consequence of this act, it has become extraordinarily difficult to get material on this subject considered in the scientific community.
For example, a technical abstract on the subject of Cydonia submitted by this author in the summer of 1998 for oral presentation to the Division of Planetary Science (DPS) of the American Astronomical Society was rejected. This was the only rejection of an abstract by a member in good standing at this meeting, with over 600 other abstracts accepted. Rejection of a member-submitted abstract is a rare event (unprecedented for this author) because presentation of papers before peers is the primary means of getting feedback before submitting written versions of papers to journals for peer review, and because justification of conclusions is not normally provided in an abstract.
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SweatyYeti said:
...this is the "HIGH-RESOLUTION" :boggled: image that was released to the public by JPL....
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Oh dear...there is a conspiracy but it seems to be the conspiracy theorists that are generating it. He is correct. This was the first processed image that was released to the public. Four hours later, it was processed to correct for angle of observation, etc. and another image was released Now, some face proponent says those four hours have meant the difference on how scientists view the "face".
TVF's paper probably was pushing the conspriacy angle and the whole "catbox" nonsense you are trying to peddle here. I doubt any scientific organization is going to buy into conspiracy theories. My guess is that the AAS did look at all images (not just the "catbox") and rejected the abstract because it just did not stand up to peer review. TVF can pout on the internet all he wants but it does not change a thing. All photographs taken since 1998 demonstrate it is just a hill and there is nothing artificial about it.
 
Diagoras said:
And by the way, there's a "face" in Alberta, Canada which blows the Cydonia "face" out of the water:
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Yes, and there's a civilization on Earth, right? Hence, face=civilization, face on Mars=Martian civilization. SweatyYeti wins teh internet!

:p
 
Are all these photos like those magic eye pictures where you have to look at them just right? I could never do those darn things right!

All I see are rocks!

LLH
 
Sweaty, do you think you could show the full image?

I'm wondering about the possibility of looking at material from a lander.
 
Cainkane1 said:
I'm just quoting the scientists. Earth didn't have a civilization a billion years ago so why Mars have had one?
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In the grand scheme of things here on Earth, it didn't take long for civilization to appear after humans presumably became capable of language. So, I guess the question really is if (a big if) both planets evolved life, who says that language has to come really far down the line?

I'm not saying there was life on Mars or if there was, that it formed into a civilization. I just think this particular argument against is not very strong.
 
We have scarcely scratched the surface of Mars.
It's far too early to make authoritative statements about whether life might have flourished- even built cities- in the planet's distant past. It may be vanishingly improbable, but let's not kid ourselves that we know.
 
I remember reading Graham Hancock's The Mars Mystery when I was younger and being intrigued by it. I'm happy to report that my critical thinking skills improved and not because of that book.

I think expecting to find microbial life on Mars is in no way implausible. Martian civilizations are another thing and if the best evidence is what Sweaty's shared with us here then things are not looking up.

One wonders the likelihood of a Martian lander serendipitously landing within mere meters of evidence of intelligent life beyond Earth. Cooonspiiiracy, anyone?
 
Sweaty's not around at the moment but looking back I saw that the full (or at least fuller) picture shown above is in my OP:


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I'm curious what thoughts people might have. It's weird, for sure. As I said before, I wonder more now if we may be looking at material from the lander.
 
kitakaze said:
Sweaty's not around at the moment but looking back I saw that the full (or at least fuller) picture shown above is in my OP:


http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w28/SweatyYeti/mars12.jpg

I'm curious what thoughts people might have. It's weird, for sure. As I said before, I wonder more now if we may be looking at material from the lander.
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"Weird" is right.
That object doesn't resemble any kind of rock or mineral that I've ever seen.

I may be able to find the link to the original NASA image, and we can see where this spot is, in relation to the lander....but I don't think it's very close to it.
 
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