WTC-7 Was Taken Down Using Controlled Demolition

I'm pretty loyal. I voted for Bush exactly zero times, though. I do work inside, pretty much, but not entirely. And I'm a very nice guy, except to idiot twoofers.
So, I guess I'm a Loyal Non-Bushie Sorta-Inside-Job Nice-guy-except-to-idiot-twoofers.

I can live with that.
 
Terral said:
To which Nicepants asks, “Which field are you referring to?” My statement agrees with Mr. Bollyn’s final assertion 100 percent that anyone experienced (the experts) in this (demolition) field knows damn good and well that no cutting torch on God’s green earth made that 45-degree angle cut. Why?
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So Mr. Bollyn is the expert? How many others have you consulted?

Terral said:
1. The debris in the area must be cleared, before the segmenting of larger steel members can even begin!
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Before I address your other points, what is your source for same?

Terral said:
The reason you do not have tons of Demolition Experts speaking out against the Official Cover Story nonsense is because they want to stay in business.
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What would the experts have to fear? Exposing the truth would mean instant notoriety, and wouldn't exactly be a small news story. How would that put them out of business?

Are you suggesting that there are "tons of Demolition Experts" who agree with the thermite theory but are keeping quiet for this (or some other) reason?

Terral said:
BTW, the CIT Chat-Monkeys are on the run over at the LC Board. I was sorry to see you got caught up in their nonsense.
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It happens. They either know they are wrong or they are the most dense people on the planet. You actually received that PM by accident :P
 
cisco said:
No, I wanted to know if you knew the details.

I was wondering if they changed their minds, realized they were full of poop, got bored, decided something else was more interesting, etc.

Or, if someone shut them down, but then I would've thought you'd have said "they were shut down," not "they shut down."
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The mod HX (Hank Xavier) decided to shut down. Why? I have no idea but it sounds good to say he was threatened by the NWO.
 
Terral, I'm really impressed with the research you have performed. Your copying and pasting abilities are top notch. The fact that you used such reputable websites as sources really adds a touch of class to it.
 
Oy! The stupid! It BURNS!

Where to start?

How about with the columns? That they were cut off above the leve lof the fire fighter's heads in the famous photo, they were not neccessarily cut off above what was ground-level when the photo was taken. Look at the background. You will notice that there are other columns in the background that have not been cut. They are surrounded with rubble. Thus, it is very reasonbable to assume that the columns may have been cut as the rubble pile was reduced to the level at which the columns were cut, and that further removal operations reduced the level of the rubble to that same height. Let us now go to that Nazi slimebag What Really Happened site to which Terral linked. Notice that there are columns in the second picture from the bottom which are, indeed, cut off at about the level of the rubble. So far, I am supporting my position on how much of the column was above ground level when the cut was made, right?

Now, can I defend my position that those columns were cut by a cutting torch? See for yourself. In that picture on the WRH site, you will notice that behind the angle-cut columns there are two gas cylinders with regulators in place. The top of the cylinder on the left is painted yellow and that on the right is painted green. It was my understanding, both when I was a fire fighter, and when I was doing day labor in construction, that yellow gas cylinders usually contain acetylene and green ones oxygen. Now, what do you suppose cylinders of acetylene and oxygen would be doing there? It seems to me perfectly logical that someone was using them to power a cutting torch to cut up standing steel columns for removal.

Now, let's look again at the slag on the first column that Terral focuses on. It looks to me like most of the torch cuts that I have seen on large upright steel items.

It does not look to me the least bit like any thermite cut I have ever made on a standing steel surface. The edges are too uniform and there is no residue of alumina on the steel, nor is there any rust to suggest that rain or fire-extinguishing streams of water had removed such a residue. Having looked at the un-cropped version of this same photograph, I am also aware that on the other end of the column lying horizontally above the head of the fire fighter on the left, there is a man wearing a hard hat and tan Carrhart-type over-alls. Various other bits of his kit suggest to me that this person is not a fire fighter but a WELDER. Gee! What would HE be doing THERE?

Seriously, Terral, you have given me reason to doubt your intelligence, education and honesty. I have serious doubts that you are being truthful with us when you claim to be a general contractor or to have worked in demolitions. Your credibility at this point is on about a par with that of Torin Howling Wolf (or whatever that fool's real name is.)

You should know that the charges that are shown on the WRH site are HE, not thermite. and that the illustrated piece of rail which has been cut with a shaped charge in no way resembles the cuts on the columns. NO SLAG.

That you even admit corresponding with Chris Bollyn, a know sociopath and criminal fugitive with an anti-human aggenda also brings your integrity into question.

Do not, therefore, be surprised that we tend to so readily dismiss so much of what you claim, or that we shall continue to do so until you come forward with some actual substantiable evidence.

BTW, I will be glad to share with persons whose int3egrity I do not question how to make a shaped thermite charge that can be held in place with duct tape an coat hanger wire, but, for obvious reasons, I do not wish to post it here. I would rather that certain persons here NOT know how to make something potentially useful as an anti-armor grenade.
 
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You can tell by the context, if you have an IQ in the triple digits, that the photos of the cut columns were taken after some debris had been removed. What else do you need to know?
 
stateofgrace said:
My understanding is that thermite residue is white as oppose to the black slag pictured.
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Not necessarily so.

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You know that angle cut picture proves one thing. The "truth" movement has no interest in finding out the truth. Have they interviewed all of the iron workers to get statements saying they didn't cut like that? No. Did they ask them if it was like that when they got there? No. Did they make any effort to talk to that firefighter? No. Did they investigate this at all? No. The extent of your investigation is looking at a picture. This doesn't strike you as odd?

Why are you so willing to believe what your told about this without any investigation at all? Why don't you question the motives of the people that promote this?
 
Miragememories said:
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And this was is?
MM
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You show an actual cut made during clean up as woo woo stuff? Good job.

Why do you show clean up cuts, and a weld where the steel was used to make rail? This means the rail did not melt away, it was made bigger and one rail. More steel was made; you show a cut on steel after 9/11, and how thermite fails to cut a railroad tie, and you have debunked yourself and 9/11 truth in one short post. Self debunking 9/11 truth. Got some more smoking gun to debunk 9/11 truth with.
 
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How are those pictures showing "white" slag or residue? I see silver, red, black, shades of gray perhaps fading into white...

And in any case, MM, are you an expert, or at least experienced in the interpretation of such evidence? And what is the provenance of the pictures -- have they been "adjusted" to make a particular point? Note that I'm not accusing you of that -- perhaps you got the pictures from some site or work that had an instructional purpose and therefore adjusted the contrast. I'm saying you need to provide the source (provenance).

The eye is a liar. Even for 20-20, even without color blindness, which by the way is endemic in the male half of the population. The only men who we can be pretty sure cannot be afflicted with color blindness, I've been told, are pilots. Wouldn't be allowed. (I asked. I almost couldn't pass a drivers' test.)
 
Note that this:
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Is HORIZONTAL. Not vertical. Its not hard to get thermite to burn down something.
To get it to burn across a load bearing vertical steel column, making a NEAT cut the way an oxy acetylene torch can make NEAT CUTS, would be incredibly difficult.

Whereas its childs play with oxy acetylene.
 
peteweaver said:
Note that this:
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Is HORIZONTAL. Not vertical. Its not hard to get thermite to burn down something.
To get it to burn across a load bearing vertical steel column, making a NEAT cut the way an oxy acetylene torch can make NEAT CUTS, would be incredibly difficult.

Whereas its childs play with oxy acetylene.
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We're talking about the NWO here. They eat 'incredibly difficult' for lunch. ;)
 
Terral said:
1. The debris in the area must be cleared, before the segmenting of larger steel members can even begin!
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Nonsense. That large steel column is being held up by the rest of the debris, if you start to clear around it you risk it falling unpredictably.
 
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