WTC-7 Was Taken Down Using Controlled Demolition

[Drs_Res]

Are you ever going to expain what the hell a "thermite shaped charge" is?

I think that it is a charge in the shape of a thermite?

 

[MIKILLINI]

No didn't have enough lipstick so no one called.

 

[MIKILLINI]

No sir. Start by quoting anything you find errant in the Opening Post and support your opposing views with third-party resources like you see in my work.
GL,

Terral

Thats been done Terral. Since you choose to ignore real evidence, it's hopeless for you to grasp the significance of real evidence.

 

[beachnut]

Hi Alt+F4:




Do not have any? :0) Start with Senor Bushie, Karl Rove and their henchman Dick Cheney who orchestrated the 9/11 wargame military exercises, Rudy Giuliani the key player in implementing Tripod2, Larry “Pull it” Silverstein (you now him already), NORAD and the Joint-chiefs, John Ashcroft and the Justice Department (part of Tripod2 in NYC) and the FBI who continues placing roadblocks in the way of any real 9/11 investigation. The list is a mile long, so just much do you really want to know? :0)

This is a good chapter from Michael Ruppert’s Book “Crossing The Rubicon” that will open many eyes. :0)

GL,

Terral

Not one thing supported by evidence in all your posts. How can you get every single thing wrong?
This is a joke right? Are you posting lies to be funny? Spamming people with false junk is not funny, it is stupid.

 

[ElMondoHummus]

Start by quoting anything you find errant in the Opening Post and support your opposing views with third-party resources like you see in my work.

Everyone already has. You ignored them. You are the one who has not properly cited or sourced his responses.

By the way, you figure out curvillinear distortion yet? The concept you forgot to apply to your analysis of the Pentagon "official" video? Your "missile" analysis was shown to be incorrect, and you haven't even tried to defend it. I take it that means you concede the argument.

On top of that, your counters to our photos and other evidence of a 757 at the Pentagon were not merely insufficient, they failed to address the points we made. Points we made with "third-party resources". Do you concede those arguments as well, or will you try to actually address what we have provided? Note: Simply saying the info is fake is insufficient. You must establish with evidence that it is.

You game?

 

[Ravenwood]

Here is how a shaped charge works:
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/munitions/bullets2-shaped-charge.htm
Care to explain how the Thermite fits into that description? You really have no idea how a shaped charge works do you?

 

[patchbunny]

I think that it is a charge in the shape of a thermite?

Maybe it's a typo, and it was actually a termite shaped charge?

 

[MIKILLINI]

I think that it is a charge in the shape of a thermite?

Maybe he meant it was a thermite you get into shape and order it to charge.

 

[X]

A Revelation!

I realized something today, as I sat bored between classes.

Terral has claimed, in this very thread:

1) Steel cannot be weakened or melted by heat untill the whole entire piece of steel has been heated, because the heat transfers instantaneously to all pats of the steel.

2) The steel beams were cut by thermite charges.


The two points listed above are mutually contadictory.

If, as Terral claims, the steel of the building could not be weakened by fire because of the instananeousness of the heat distribution, then how would the heat of a thermite charge be able to cut the beam, unless you had enough thermite to heat the entire building? I'm sure somebody would have noticed that much thermite being placed.


Honestly, I'm a bit dissapointed in myself that I didn't cotton on to this earlier. I should have caught it. I mean, I'm studying engineering and all. I am shamed.

Oh, and Terral:
Are you going to respond to my point, or, like all other non-compliant evidence you're faced with, will you ignore it?

 

[1337m4n]

1337m4n, I'm not criticising your post, just giving a bit of background information, so that people can understand what the time mentioned for fire protection actually means.

Dave

It's a weakness of mine. When an opponent is irritating me, I get too caught up in trying to refute what they say to check my research. I should be thanking you for keeping me in check.

 

[leftysergeant]

As, appparently, the only person here who has made a shaped thermite chargeI see no way that they could have been deployed effectively in the towers. A cast charge the size of an 8-ounce coffee cup will penetrate six inches of steel. So let's say a bar about two inches by four inches by however wide the structural element is is applied directly to the surface of the steel.

Problems arise already. How do you access the columns to apply them all the way around? You have to remove a lot of drywall. Somebody has got to notice this and get suspicious. No one has.

Obviously, whatever brought the towers down happened to both the cores and the perimeter columns.

Charges on the perimeter columns would have been visible from the outside when they were ignited.

The only way I know to set off cast thermite is with a mechanical linkage or chemical igniter charge built into the charge.

Like that would be accessible in the middle of a major fire. The chemicals used in the chemical ignitor would cook off randomly in a moving office fire.

Now, unless you want to postulate a band of suicide demolitionists, at least forty of them per floor, I just don't see how they could be set off.

This is, of course all rather silly, since the argument is that the collapse would be self-limiting. That means that we are back to square one unless you rig all floors.

You ain't going to find that many maniacs willing to die for the goals of PNAC.

 

[Terral]

Two Sentences Of Nonsense Does NOT Make A 'Loyal Bushie' Building Fire Case

Hi Liver:

Liver >> Terral, I'm really impressed with the research you have performed. Your copying and pasting abilities are top notch. The fact that you used such reputable websites as sources really adds a touch of class to it.

If anyone here has a case for how Building Fires took down the 47-story WTC-7 skyscraper in just a few hours, then this is your big chance to show us the Light. Show us how a few building fires can cause the ‘symmetrical’ collapse of a steel-framed skyscraper within a very small amount of time. You are saying that Controlled Demolition specialists need not waste months planning, wiring and setting off explosives, when all they really have to do is set a few building fires and run away. :0) I am afraid that MANY of you simply do not realize how ridiculous the Official Bushie Cover Story has been from the very beginning. The fact that you can buy that stupidity says more about the gullibility of the American Public than anything else . . .

GL,

Terral

 

[Terral]

WTC-7 Was "Pulled" By Larry "Pull It" Silverstein . . .

Hi Tsig:

Tsig >> Go pick up a torch feel the power that comes with hitting the oxygen and watching steel burn in front of your eyes.

However, build a fire using office furniture and try to melt massive red-iron structural columns with 3-hour spray-on insulation. :0) Just want kind of Jetliner hit WTC-7? Oh. No Jetliner at all. How does Tsig explain the fact that all the massive red-iron column, girder, beam and bar-joist connections were ‘severed’ to create this little debris pile? :0) Before the Controlled Demolition charges were detonated, then we had 47 stories of massive continuous steel beams running the entire length of the building. However, just after the CD process was complete ALL of those connections ‘and’ ALL the horizontal girder/beam connections were CUT to allow the entire structure to collapse straight down into its own footprint. Did we see the same result with any of the other buildings in direct proximity to WTC-7? No! Do you know why? I do. :0) They were not owned by Larry “Pull It” Silverstein . . .

GL,

Terral

 

[Par]

Still lying then, Terral.

 

[aggle-rithm]

Hi Tsig:




However, build a fire using office furniture and try to melt massive red-iron structural columns with 3-hour spray-on insulation. :0) Just want kind of Jetliner hit WTC-7? Oh. No Jetliner at all. How does Tsig explain the fact that all the massive red-iron column, girder, beam and bar-joist connections were ‘severed’ to create this little debris pile? :0) Before the Controlled Demolition charges were detonated, then we had 47 stories of massive continuous steel beams running the entire length of the building. However, just after the CD process was complete ALL of those connections ‘and’ ALL the horizontal girder/beam connections were CUT to allow the entire structure to collapse straight down into its own footprint. Did we see the same result with any of the other buildings in direct proximity to WTC-7? No! Do you know why? I do. :0) They were not owned by Larry “Pull It” Silverstein . . .

GL,

Terral

Edited to remove incorrect content:

Tsig:


Oh.

 

[X]

Lying, and calling all valid points "nonsesne".

Terral: Just because your arguments can be refuted in a snence or two does not invalidate the refutations. It does, however, reflect very poorly on the quality of your arguments. You might want to think about that,

 

[chillzero]

Hi Liver:




If anyone here has a case for how Building Fires took down the 47-story WTC-7 skyscraper in just a few hours, then this is your big chance to show us the Light. Show us how a few building fires can cause the ‘symmetrical’ collapse of a steel-framed skyscraper within a very small amount of time. You are saying that Controlled Demolition specialists need not waste months planning, wiring and setting off explosives, when all they really have to do is set a few building fires and run away. :0) I am afraid that MANY of you simply do not realize how ridiculous the Official Bushie Cover Story has been from the very beginning. The fact that you can buy that stupidity says more about the gullibility of the American Public than anything else . . .

GL,

Terral

1 - Quote function ... down there on the bottom right of every post. Please use it.

2 - Not everyone on the board is american.

3 - I think the fact that so much debris caused so much damage to surrounding buildings would deter anyone from your proposed actions of setting fires and runnign away. The point of controlled demolitions is to prevent damage to anything other than the subject to be demolished.

 

[Terral]

The Official Bushie Cover Story Explanation Simply Does NOT Add Up. Period.

Hi DGM:

DGM >> You know that angle cut picture proves one thing. The "truth" movement has no interest in finding out the truth. Have they interviewed all of the iron workers to get statements saying they didn't cut like that? No.

We do not require the testimony of one WTC iron worker to know this result is IMPOSSIBLE using building fires, so stop being foolish. You are talking about the catastrophic failure of a myriad of MASSIVE 2800-degree red-iron steel supports (and I mean MASSIVE) at the VERY SAME TIME, when the damage from any building fire would affect building components only in direct proximity to those fires ‘and’ a renewable fuel source. You are talking about interviewing iron workers, when you are supposed to be presenting a case for how building fires can even possibly take down a massive steel-framed skyscraper by severing ‘all’ of the structural supports in the ENTIRE steel-framed network at the VERY SAME TIME.

DGM >> Did they ask them if it was like that when they got there? No. Did they make any effort to talk to that firefighter? No. Did they investigate this at all? No. The extent of your investigation is looking at a picture. This doesn't strike you as odd?

Not at all. Many crimes are solved by careful examination of the EVIDENCE, when the FACTS do not even begin to match the data of the Original Cover Story. 45-degree angle cuts are Controlled Demolition Signatures where CD Supervisors move column lines in specific directions throughout the Building Implosion Process. This means you have a clear ‘PATTERN’ of entire column lines being moved in one direction, while the remaining pedestal columns stubs are pushed in the opposite direction. Where was all of this steel warehoused, so we could carry out a real investigation? :0) Oh, Rudi ‘The Culprit’ Giuliani made sure all of that evidence was destroyed in one way or the other (NY Times article). Therefore, we are forced to use pictures of the accounts, or let the real inside-job bad guys get away with murdering innocent Americans on 9/11.

DGM >> Why are you so willing to believe what your told about this without any investigation at all? Why don't you question the motives of the people that promote this?

Just listen to yourself! You want everyone to believe Senor Bushie, Karl “The Biggest Liar In The World” Rove, Dick “The Henchman” Cheney and Larry “Pull It” Silverstein when a ‘real’ WTC Investigation is made impossible by the destruction of evidence by these same inside-job bad guys! When a 47-story overbuilt skyscrapers does this from building fires in just a few hours, then you should be the very first person to begin asking questions about the Official Bushie/DoD/FBI Cover Story! The Controlled Demolition Explanation is the ONLY ONE that answers ‘all’ the WTC Collapse questions without creating a single contradiction in any of the EVIDENCE.

GL,

Terral

 

[Terral]

Another Loyal Bushie "Building Fire" Con-Artist Exposed - Again . . .

Hi 1337:

1337 >> You know what else has never destroyed a steel-framed skyscraper in US history before or after 9/11? Thermite. Oh wait, you claim that thermite destroyed the building. Non-unique.

Your argument is also a wonderful example of circular logic.

Your 'Building Fires Took Down WTC-7 In Just A Few Hours' explanation is a wonderful example of “Never Happened.” First of all, you have NO SIGN of building fires on any floor in this picture of WTC-7 collapsing at freefall speed. Secondly, we have the telltale “kink” in the roofline just moments later showing the ‘middle’ of the structure is falling faster than the two sides; which is typical of the CD process. Thirdly, we have the little debris pile that is common to what? Building fires? No. Controlled Demolition Implosions. Why is 1337 trying to extract Loyal Bushie conclusions from what is obviously a typical CD building implosion? :0)

Do us all a big fat favor and show us your ‘precedent’ for a real steel-framed skyscraper collapsing Demolition-style from a few building fires in just a few hours. GL trying to say something that sounds remotely intelligent . . .

GL again, because you need it,

Terral

 

[DGM]

Hi DGM:




We do not require the testimony of one WTC iron worker to know

Because you don't want to know the truth. The iron workers can tell you about the site( they were there) but that's not important? Three of my friends were there doing those cuts. But you simply don't care.

Have fun with your fantasies.