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Welcome to the Twilight Zone

Sizzler

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Welcome to the Twilight Zone.

A few months after the start of the of the 9-11 Commission, it is found that there are conflicts of interest among a few of the top commissioners. The 9-11 Commission is shut down and new one is launched.

However the 'New-Commission' is even more corrupt, and for reasons unknown, they conclude that the WTC event was a controlled demolition. The usual suspects are executed and the general consensus among the public is that "9-11 was an inside job".

Evidence for controlled demolition in the 'new-commission' is summarized on ae911truth.org.

A group of skeptical citizens claim the 'new-commission' is a sham, and 9-11 was not an inside job.

What are the top 5 pieces of evidence that show the WTC event was not a controlled demolition?

Remember, this is the twilight zone, and the burden of proof is on the gravity driven collapse theory.

Anyone want to play?
 
Two massive molotov cocktails hitting the towers at ~500 mph (killing almost 3,000 human beings) would be a good place to start...
 
HeyLeroy said:
Two massive molotov cocktails hitting the towers at ~500 mph (killing almost 3,000 human beings) would be a good place to start...
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I'd follow that up with nothing that sounds like the explosions of CD charges have been found on any of the audio from that day.
 
And the collapses progressing from the points of impact in a top-down manner...

Jeez, hasn't this all been covered?
 
Sizzler said:
Welcome to the Twilight Zone.

A few months after the start of the of the 9-11 Commission, it is found that there are conflicts of interest among a few of the top commissioners. The 9-11 Commission is shut down and new one is launched.

However the 'New-Commission' is even more corrupt, and for reasons unknown, they conclude that the WTC event was a controlled demolition. The usual suspects are executed and the general consensus among the public is that "9-11 was an inside job".

Evidence for controlled demolition in the 'new-commission' is summarized on ae911truth.org.

A group of skeptical citizens claim the 'new-commission' is a sham, and 9-11 was not an inside job.

What are the top 5 pieces of evidence that show the WTC event was not a controlled demolition?

Remember, this is the twilight zone, and the burden of proof is on the gravity driven collapse theory.

Anyone want to play?
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More evidence that this is a fantasy to you people.

Three-thousand human beings died, Sizzler. It's not a game. Stop ignoring the staggering amount of evidence for what really happened in favor of the small pile of conjecture that supports your pet conclusion.
 
Since there is not one shred of evidence or logic that supports the crackpot CD claims, those claims are rejected.

Another Failpost, Sizzler. You've come a long way from claiming to be an inside job agnostic. How truly sad.
 
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sizzler said:
Remember, this is the twilight zone, and the burden of proof is on the gravity driven collapse theory.

Anyone want to play?
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When a structure damaged by impact and fire can no longer support itself, it falls down. Just that simple.
9-11 was an act of war. It is not "Dungeons and Dragons" or a game of "Warcraft".
 
Sizzler said:
What are the top 5 pieces of evidence that show the WTC event was not a controlled demolition?
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Actually, I'll give you 10,000 of them.

It's called the NIST report.

As soon as the CTers can supply a consensus of qualified experts to tell me it's wrong, I'll pay attention to what you have to say.

Until then, I'll just leave you and your fantasies languishing in the Twilight Zone where they belong.
 
There is a fifth dimension beyond that which is known to man. It is a dimension as vast as space and as timeless as infinity. It is the middle-ground between light and shadow, between science and superstition, and it lies between the pit of man's fears and the summit of his knowledge. This is the dimension of imagination. It is an area we call the 'Twilight Zone' and it is inhabited by impotent 9/11 wooish morons.
 
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Sizzler said:
However the 'New-Commission' is even more corrupt, and for reasons unknown, they conclude that the WTC event was a controlled demolition. The usual suspects are executed and the general consensus among the public is that "9-11 was an inside job".

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What are the top 5 pieces of evidence that show the WTC event was not a controlled demolition?
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Well, apart from all the evidence that applies in the real world, there would also be the bit where the "New Commision" cries "Inside Job!" and starts executing people without giving any reasons.

(Actually, that's just what a Truther report would be like, wouldn't it? It would just read: "911 was teh INSIDE JOB!!! OMG j00s!!! do your own research!!!" and that would be it apart from an appendix listing the people to be executed.)

So this would make me suspicious. If they had reasons for thinking that there was CD, surely they would publish them? Their failure to do so would lead me to think that there were, in fact, no good reasons for believing in controlled demolition.

Remember, this is the twilight zone, and the burden of proof is on the gravity driven collapse theory.
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No, if this "New Commision" is going to claim a controlled demolition, then they bear the burden of proof for that statement, especially if they're going to execute people on that basis.
 
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There is a fifth dimension beyond that which is known to man. It is a dimension as vast as space and as timeless as infinity. It is the middle-ground between light and shadow, between science and superstition, and it lies between the pit of man's fears and the summit of his knowledge. This is the dimension of imagination. It is an area we call the 'Twilight Zone' and it is inhabited by impotent 9/11 wooish morons.
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Thank you, Rod Serling...:D
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Ah, the usual propaganda from a group that is much smaller than even the flat earth society....


Funny, I had always assumed gravity had been proven, but maybe gravity is just in my head.
 
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Sizzler said:
Welcome to the Twilight Zone.

A few months after the start of the of the 9-11 Commission, it is found that there are conflicts of interest among a few of the top commissioners. The 9-11 Commission is shut down and new one is launched.

However the 'New-Commission' is even more corrupt, and for reasons unknown, they conclude that the WTC event was a controlled demolition. The usual suspects are executed and the general consensus among the public is that "9-11 was an inside job".

Evidence for controlled demolition in the 'new-commission' is summarized on ae911truth.org.

A group of skeptical citizens claim the 'new-commission' is a sham, and 9-11 was not an inside job.

What are the top 5 pieces of evidence that show the WTC event was not a controlled demolition?

Remember, this is the twilight zone, and the burden of proof is on the gravity driven collapse theory.

Anyone want to play?
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The new guys are carted off to Happy Dale, they are nuts! The idiot team, Dr Jones, Fetzer, and Woods are found crazy beyond all help. They die when they are exposed to the truth ray treatment, invented by Dr Woods; oh the irony.

Why are some truthers so ashamed to be called truthers. Old ploy, failed ploy.
 
Sizzler said:
Welcome to the Twilight Zone.

A few months after the start of the of the 9-11 Commission, it is found that there are conflicts of interest among a few of the top commissioners. The 9-11 Commission is shut down and new one is launched.

However the 'New-Commission' is even more corrupt, and for reasons unknown, they conclude that the WTC event was a controlled demolition. The usual suspects are executed and the general consensus among the public is that "9-11 was an inside job".

Evidence for controlled demolition in the 'new-commission' is summarized on ae911truth.org.

A group of skeptical citizens claim the 'new-commission' is a sham, and 9-11 was not an inside job.

What are the top 5 pieces of evidence that show the WTC event was not a controlled demolition?

Remember, this is the twilight zone, and the burden of proof is on the gravity driven collapse theory.

Anyone want to play?
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1. Large planes crash into towers at 500mph.

2. Scorching office fires get started

3. Metal begins to weaken

4. Beams can no longer support the loads due to buckling and the towers collapse

5. Oh. And the fact that there is not a single shred of evidence that supports a CD theory (No explosive sounds, no traces of blasting, no witnesses to bombs being planted, no whistle blowers, etc etc)

GROW UP
 
Maybe I'm alone, but I don't have problems with hypothetical questions like the OP.

The top five evidences against controlled demolition are these:

1. Every independent, published calculation (frauds like the Journal of 9/11 Studies don't count) demonstrates that failure of the Towers was expected, and complete collapse anticipated, from impact and fire alone. Without positive evidence for explosives, there is automatically no reason to conclude there were explosives.

2. Video clearly shows that at the onset of failure, perimeter columns buckled inward, precipitating the collapse. This requires structural connections to remain intact rather than be blasted apart. No one has even proposed any way to replicate this with explosives.

3. Now 1. and 2. turn out to be true for both Towers, even though they were hit quite differently. Rigging of explosives would have to be radically different between the two structures, and would have to anticipate the impact point, speed, and effect of the aircraft to extremely high detail -- which simply cannot be done. As Purdue will shortly publish, the dynamics of impact are quite sensitive to initial conditions, even if you have the best pilot in the world who can hit a dime at +/- 1 knot and +/- 0.1o of roll and pitch angle.

4. Video and seismic records also show that there are no sounds and no shocks at collapse initiation. There were many afterwards, of course, but this is consistent with a gravity-driven collapse. You'd need to set off the explosives first. Didn't happen.

5. The failure modes of recovered material are also not consistent with explosives. Perimeter columns show connection failure, not cutting or breaching or even "heat weakening." There's no cloud of shrapnel. There's no remains of det cord, copper bands, evidence of drilling and placement, nothing.

Ultimately, the best reason to reject it is that nobody can even imagine a plausible situation. Even if we relax our requirements so much that we demand no evidence at all, there just is no way to replicate what we saw with explosives. I've commented on ways to hypothetically plant explosives that would work and would survive the impact and fires, but even I can't explain the failure mode of the structure. Nobody can.

The OP is a little bit unfair. If this Negaverse 9/11 Commission or Anti-NIST recommended explosives, surely they'd have some evdience in support. I can't imagine what that would be, so it's difficult to examine it for mistakes. Nonetheless, even a simple observation of the progression to failure eliminates explosives from the table. NCSTAR1-5A contains no calculations, but single-handedly dismisses CD.
 
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The Twilight Zone...

The USG and its affiliates have determined that the WTCs were brought down by magic Leprachauns.

Then a small group of citizens came up with a theory that it was not Leprachauns, but rather 19 Arab hijackers working for Al-Qaeda.

Name your five pieces of evidence that prove the WTCs were not brought down by magical Leprachauns.

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Now do you see the foolishness of your suggestion Sizzler?

TAM:)
 
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