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White Vans on 9-11???

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Hey folks. Ive been searching the web left and right for info about the supposed white vans full of explosives on the gwb and the new jersey turnpike, and the van that "exploded" in manhattan. all i find is 9-11 denier sites...no factual sites. anyone got anything on this?
 
Er, didn't we just talk about this via PM the other day? You're not finding information on white vans full of explosives because there were none. I explained to you that the panel truck with the mural on King Street was another false alarm – one of many.

Remember who has the burden of proof.
 
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we did. i was hoping someone had something from a newspaper mentioning that no explosives were found in any vans in nj. it appears that this myth is such bs that no one has even invested much time to debunk it. =)

years ago, i do recall seeing little articles in little nj papers providing this info. but, if its no longer up, what can ya do.
 
parky76 said:
we did. i was hoping someone had something from a newspaper mentioning that no explosives were found in any vans in nj.
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you probably wont, for the same reason you wont find a newspaper saying "new york wasnt nuked today" the stories seem to be so exagerrated or even completely made up by the truthers
 
About as reliable as the "White Van" the DC Sniper was reliably reported to be driving.

In other words; An understandable error.

Only now that its been debunked, it is a stinking, dastardly, pathetic lie repeated only by pathetic losers.
 
well, the thing is, the networks did report vans with explosives pulled over. one would think there would have been big fat articles claiming "no explosives in vans found. you can relax now".
 
parky76 said:
we did. i was hoping someone had something from a newspaper mentioning that no explosives were found in any vans in nj.
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Again, you're accepting a burden of proof that belongs on your opponent.

Here's information about the truck with the mural on King Street, and the confusion and fear that reigned after the collapses. Don't let your opponent get away with claiming that every event should have been clear to everyone in NYC during that chaos and that every rumor or suspicion was true.

''I'm concerned for the city,'' said Gary Foster, 42, a public relations official at a biotechnology firm at Rockefeller Center. ''I was already concerned with the potential of a severe economic downturn and was waiting for the impact to be felt by the city. I'm sure we will be going through a phase here where we will be inconvenienced. As for the long term, I'm just hoping that this city does not change radically.''

Perhaps not radically. But by any measure, this has knocked the wind out of a brash city in ways that became evident even before the first sun set on the rubble of the World Trade Center. One hour after the second tower tumbled, unnerved passers-by just south of Houston Street scattered as a police bomb squad towed away a truck that had been abandoned on King Street.

After that, in first the hours and then the days ahead, every parked, abandoned truck loomed as a potential bomb. The buzz of low-flying military jets or police helicopters inevitably drew anxious glances from pedestrians. The wail of sirens was no longer the white noise backdrop to life in a lively city.

"Anxiety Knocks the Wind Out of a Once-Brash City." New York Times, Sept. 16, 2001
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parky76 said:
well, the thing is, the networks did report vans with explosives pulled over. one would think there would have been big fat articles claiming "no explosives in vans found. you can relax now".
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Or did they report vans suspected of or rumored to be carrying explosives pulled over? Or did they simply pass on information that was garbled or untrue, as they did many times that day? Do you have a source for these reports?
 
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parky76 said:
well, the thing is, the networks did report vans with explosives pulled over. one would think there would have been big fat articles claiming "no explosives in vans found. you can relax now".
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I'll say it; If you think that, you're a dunce. There is just no "friendly" reply to that.

The networks report all sorts of incorrect things while trying to track a breaking story. And even newspapers screw up;

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officer: [inaudible]
officer: 5 the message about the plane
officer: Sergeant [inaudible] seven five (Miller?)
officer: 5 [inaudible] about the, 10-5 the message about the plane
officer: 9414 hold up
officer: 5 the message about the remote-control plane
officer: [inaudible] on the air
officer: [inaudible]
officer: [inaudible]
officer: [inaudible] Trinity and Liberty… all city wide task force units are to respond to Liberty Trinity Place
officer: 10-4 the message is the plane [inaudible]
officer: [inaudible] task forces
c/o: [inaudible] and [inaudible] will be the mobilization point at this time [inaudible]
officer: 10-4 c/o central who is [inaudible]
officer: didn’t find any mention about the plane (alt: didn’t find any admission about the plane)
officer: central, we need the bomb squad and EAQ over at King and……background noise….click
officer: [inaudible]
officer: [inaudible] units
officer: [inaudible] on the air
officer: 9415 you on?
officer: 85[inaudible] this is uhh operator
officer: [inaudible]
officer: negat[inaudible]
officer: [inaudible] giving up these [inaudible] (planes?)
officer: [inaudible] I got a message on that uh plane,
it’s a big truck with a mural painted of a of a airplane diving into New York City
and exploding [inaudible] know what’s in the truck, the truck is in between 6th and 7th on King Street
officer: [inaudible]
officer: [inaudible]
officer: [inaudible]
officer: [inaudible] 10-5 10-5
officer: with a mural painted uh airplane diving into New York blowing up. Two men got outta the truck
ran away from it, we got those two [inaudible] under.
officer: kay great.
officer: [inaudible]
officer: [inaudible] are you holding those to guys [inaudible] (kay?)
multiple voices/commotion: [inaudible] ****ing beat the **** out of him.
officer: [gasps]
multiple voices/commotion: [inaudible] ****ing **** out of him [inaudible]
officer: all right listen you need any [inaudible] on those two guys over there? you all right over there kay?
officer: we got both suspects under kay, we have the suspects who drive…drove in the van and that exploded
we have both of them under kay let’s get some help over here
officer: now I’m sending you [inaudible] I just want to make sure you and your guys all right over there kay, that’s all.
officer: what’s the location [inaudible]
officer: put em up, put em up
officer: you know we have both the [inaudible] driven that exploded. Is that correct?
officer: what location?
officer: location [inaudible]
officer: [inaudible]
officer: [inaudible] location [inaudible]
officer: King Street between 6th and 7th
officer: King Street and 6th and 7th avenue, King Street and 6th and 7th avenue
officer: [inaudible] on the scene King 6 and 7, which unit are you kay?
officer: [inaudible]
officer: [inaudible]
officer: [inaudible] explosion
officer: which unit is on the scene at king street?
officer: truck to Manhattan
officer: [inaudible] 10 truck
officer: [inaudible] 10 truck is heading a team toward 14 Trinity Place
officer: all right you take care of that for me and get back to me
multiple voices: [inaudible]
officer: all right just check out that location let me know what you got
officer: [inaudible]4
officer: [inaudible] on the air
officer: on the air
officer: [inaudible]
officer: that fine with you?
officer: CIT Units on the air, CIT
officer: [inaudible] always available [inaudible] we’re talkin
 
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parky76 said:
well, the thing is, the networks did report vans with explosives pulled over. one would think there would have been big fat articles claiming "no explosives in vans found. you can relax now".
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"Marcia Kramer of WCBS-TV, our CBS-owned and -operated station in New York, reported some time ago that the FBI had in custody two suspects caught with a pickup truck of explosives around the George Washington Bridge; now further checking on that story that other law enforcement officials in New York said they knew nothing about it, and now Jim Stewart is saying that FBI headquarters in Washington knows nothing about it. We'll have to put that in a long line of things that's under the 'Well, we're skeptical now.' Maybe it's true and maybe it isn't."

-- Dan Rather, 9/11/2001.

I think that's as close to a retraction as Rather ever gets.
 
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gumboot said:
How do you know everyone speaking is an "officer"?

-Gumboot
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I have LastChild on ignore, but if what he or she posted is someone saying "that truck blew up" or somesuch, remember that vehicles were on fire and causing explosions at the World Trade Center after the collapses. The truck with the mural was far away, on King Street. It did not blow up. End of story.
 
LastChild said:


.... officer: [inaudible] always available [inaudible] we’re talkin
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If you click on that video and go to the Youtube page, the person who posted it says that he/she thinks that the tape was 'fabricated by government operatives'. That's quite confusing - why are you citing it then?
 
Gravy said:
I have LastChild on ignore, but if what he or she posted is someone saying "that truck blew up" or somesuch, remember that vehicles were on fire and causing explosions at the World Trade Center after the collapses. The truck with the mural was far away, on King Street. It did not blow up. End of story.
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He posted a transcript of the video, and listed every speaker as being an officer.
 
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officer: you know we have both the [inaudible] driven that exploded. Is that correct?
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That's said at around 2.30-2.35. To me, after the [inaudible] bit, it sounds like someone else saying "that exploded".
 
Strange how only the pdohertys and LastChilds of the world think this is in any way significant. I have no doubt that they'll still be bringing it up five years from now. Let's not reward them by engaging in microscopic examination of what only they imagine to be suspicious. Remember that their microscope is also a kaleidoscope.
 
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