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White Vans on 9-11???

parky76 said:
Hey folks. Ive been searching the web left and right for info about the supposed white vans full of explosives on the gwb and the new jersey turnpike, and the van that "exploded" in manhattan. all i find is 9-11 denier sites...no factual sites. anyone got anything on this?
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The story was on the entertainment news sites it was a van full of spider man movie posters.

They were getting ready for the New York screening of the first spider man movie. They postponed the screening because of 9/11/2001, to change the seen in the movie from one of spider man catching a helicopter in a web between the twin towers to one of spider man planting a flag.
The emblem on the van was of spider man catching a helicopter between the twin towers.

http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/2007/12/26/the-irresistible-urge-to-destroy-new-york-on-screen/

Meanwhile, Sony Pictures removed a trailer from theaters and the Internet for the adventure "Spider-Man" because of a scene in which a helicopter carrying fleeing robbers gets trapped in a giant spider web strung between the two towers of the World Trade Center..\..
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http://www.timesizing.com/col0109a.htm

http://hollywood.com/news/SpiderMan_trailermovie_poster_axed/1091707

http://www.gobuyersnet.com/spider1.html

Gee the NYPD Bomb squad Blew up a van full of spider man posters, big deal.
 
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To the best of my knowledge the "9/11 mystery van" belongs to the Manhattan Demolition company of Long Island City, Queens. It's white, has a graphic of the WTC just below the word "demolition" and it also says it's "radio controlled".

And guess what, I bet it's full of demolition stuff, considering it's a demolition company and all.
 
parky76 said:
Hey folks. Ive been searching the web left and right for info about the supposed white vans full of explosives on the gwb and the new jersey turnpike, and the van that "exploded" in manhattan. all i find is 9-11 denier sites...no factual sites. anyone got anything on this?
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Parky, does Dan Rather qualify as a credible source for you? Please go to this website:

http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/fiveisraelis.html

Halfway down the page you will see an image of Rather, and you can download a WMV file and watch a clip of him, presumably on the CBS evening news. In it he states that a truck full of explosives was stopped near the George Washington bridge in NYC. He also states that two suspects are in FBI custody and that the FBI said that the truck contained enough explosives to to "great damage" to the bridge.

The same site also quotes several Israeli newspapers, including the Jerusalem Post, as stating that a white van driven by Israelis was apprehended near the George Washington bridge. Here is what the Jerusalem Post reported on Sept. 12, 2001:


American security services overnight stopped a car bomb on the George Washington Bridge connecting New York and New Jersey.

The van, packed with explosives, was stopped on an approach ramp to the bridge.

Authorities suspect the terrorists intended to blow up the main crossing between New Jersey and New York, Army Radio reported.
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/jpost.html
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Enough to convince you, Parky? Then again, maybe Rather and the JP reporters were confused. You know, it was a rather hectic day.
 
Alt+F4 said:
To the best of my knowledge the "9/11 mystery van" belongs to the Manhattan Demolition company of Long Island City, Queens. It's white, has a graphic of the WTC just below the word "demolition" and it also says it's "radio controlled".

And guess what, I bet it's full of demolition stuff, considering it's a demolition company and all.
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Yes I believe that's the company that is spotted in this video between 9:21 and 9:31.

Warning the beginning of this video is primarily of many people falling to their death. There is also some harsh language.

http://www.informationliberation.com/?id=23912

I know there is a still photo of this truck somewhere because I've seen it but I can't find it right now. The side of the truck depicts a skyline, a radio tower that says "radio dispatched", and a plane.

I don’t know that it means anything as far as demolition involved in the WTC collapse I’m just pointing out what could be the truck the police spotted in the radio transcription. Though it doesn’t really explain why they would get out and run or why in the transcript it says the truck exploded.
 
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A-Train said:
Parky, does Dan Rather qualify as a credible source for you? Please go to this website:

http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/fiveisraelis.html

Halfway down the page you will see an image of Rather, and you can download a WMV file and watch a clip of him, presumably on the CBS evening news. In it he states that a truck full of explosives was stopped near the George Washington bridge in NYC. He also states that two suspects are in FBI custody and that the FBI said that the truck contained enough explosives to to "great damage" to the bridge.

The same site also quotes several Israeli newspapers, including the Jerusalem Post, as stating that a white van driven by Israelis was apprehended near the George Washington bridge. Here is what the Jerusalem Post reported on Sept. 12, 2001:


Enough to convince you, Parky? Then again, maybe Rather and the JP reporters were confused. You know, it was a rather hectic day.
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Wrong again. You must be getting frustrated.
 
But the web sites dedicated to only printing information that suggests conspiracies and leaving out ALL information that shows otherwise say there was a van fll of explosives, so it must be true. After all, it's on the internet.
 
You're up against two problems:

First, stories in the "mainstream" media have a limited shelf life, at least for the investiGoogler. After this much time, finding what you're looking for might require a lot of tedious poking around in physical archives.

OTOH, conspiraloon Web sites never forget anything. Once they've got an MSM item that appears to support their allegations, they'll keep it on the Web indefinitely, even though it be proved false later.

Second, follow-up information isn't always found in the same source as the original story.

For example, if you Google "israelis + explosives + van + "Whidbey Island"", you'll get hundreds of hits, most of them on conspiracist Web sties*, referring to this Fox News story, which says

A Budget truck was pulled over in Oak Harbor, Wash., last Tuesday near the Whidbey Island Naval Air Station and found to have traces of TNT on the gearshift and traces of RDX plastic explosive on the steering wheel, Fox News has learned.
Traces of explosives were also found on one of the truck's two occupants...

Documents read to Fox News indicate that both driver and passenger were Israeli nationals. Investigators say a roadside check of the national database of immigration records indicated that one of the men had not entered the country legally, and the other was in violation of his visa. Both men were taken into custody for immigration violations.
At 7:30 that morning local police were notified that the BATF and FBI had tested the truck and found traces of explosives on the steering wheel and gear shift.
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But to find the follow-up, you have to go to the Seattle Post-Intelligencer for the following day, where you learn

A national cable TV news flash yesterday about the arrest of possible terrorists on Whidbey Island sounded explosive:
The FBI and other federal agents were investigating two Middle Eastern men who were arrested in Oak Harbor last Tuesday after police found traces of TNT and plastic explosive in a rental truck they were driving, the Fox News Channel reported.
The fact that Oak Harbor is near Whidbey Island Naval Air Station, home of the electronic warfare Prowler jets, heightened concerns.
But the FBI said last night it had taken a pass on the case, handing it over to immigration officials after further tests for explosives.
"All were negative," said FBI spokeswoman Melissa Mallon.
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That's not surprising. You actually want field screening tests for things like explosives to have a high sensitivity, specificity be damned, because the worst-case consequences of a false negative are so much worse than those of a false positive. The tests you do as a follow-up need to have a high specificity (low false positive probability) so that you can accurately sort out just what the facts are.

Don't expect a conspiracy theory industry source to think of such things, or to abandon a hypothesis in the light of further evidence, though. Why should they bother? Just leave it up on the Web site and there's sure to be a fresh crop of rubes who won't know enough to do any smart checking.

*this was originally a typo, but it seemed so appropriate that I let it stand.
 
Am I missing something here? Besides maybe implicating the NYPD in this vast scheme what does this have to do with anything?
 
I had a white van on 9/11 and for a few years before that and a year after. Then I had a white minivan. I was not in New York at the time.
 
Gazpacho said:
"Marcia Kramer of WCBS-TV, our CBS-owned and -operated station in New York, reported some time ago that the FBI had in custody two suspects caught with a pickup truck of explosives around the George Washington Bridge; now further checking on that story that other law enforcement officials in New York said they knew nothing about it, and now Jim Stewart is saying that FBI headquarters in Washington knows nothing about it. We'll have to put that in a long line of things that's under the 'Well, we're skeptical now.' Maybe it's true and maybe it isn't."

-- Dan Rather, 9/11/2001.

I think that's as close to a retraction as Rather ever gets.
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Does anyone have the video to this? I've been looking but I cannot find it.
 
Where's Red Ibis to ask: "Guess who else had a white van in or around New York City?" Followed up by: "You all ought to know!" And finally: "Just saying so-and-so had a white van."
 
Car manufacturers should know better than to make white vans as their only use can be to store explosives. The world would be a lot safer w/o white vans.

Speaking of which, this may be before most people's conspiracy lifetime, but originally Craig claimed that the plane parts from flight 77 found at the scene of the Pentagon were placed there using a small white van seen in one of the pictures. Yes, that's right, a 757 worth of plane parts fit in a small white van. This was before the northside/southside debacle.
 
LastChild said:
Yes I believe that's the company that is spotted in this video between 9:21 and 9:31.

http://www.informationliberation.com/?id=23912

I know there is a still photo of this truck somewhere because I've seen it but I can't find it right now. The side of the truck depicts a skyline, a radio tower that says "radio dispatched", and a plane.

I don’t know that it means anything as far as demolition involved in the WTC collapse I’m just pointing out what could be the truck the police spotted in the radio transcription. Though it doesn’t really explain why they would get out and run or why in the transcript it says the truck exploded.
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This is a photograph of the truck from that video. The same company also has a white van with the exact same writing and design on the side. That explains the "mystery van". As for the transcript, what is it's original source? Keep in mind that the NYPD also said there was a bomb in Stuyvesant High School, they were mistaken about that too.


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Alt+F4 said:
This is a photograph of the truck from that video. The same company also has a white van with the exact same writing and design on the side. That explains the "mystery van". As for the transcript, what is it's original source? Keep in mind that the NYPD also said there was a bomb in Stuyvesant High School, they were mistaken about that too.
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I don't know I think it originally came from the links I'm posting. They say here it's an NYPD radio transmission from 9/11 and some of it is supposedly confirmed by the Norman Y. Mineta International Institute for Surface Transportation Policy Studies (MTI) but the MIT conflicts with the NYPD transcript on some points like the claim the van exploded.

http://culhavoc.blogsome.com/2006/05/03/confirming-the-exploding-mural-van-coverup/

http://culhavoc.blogsome.com/2006/02/05/remote-controlled-plane-update
 
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