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Bill O'Reilly

Lonewulf said:
Please don't tell me that you're going to suggest that anyone has to work hard to "smear" Bill O'Reilly.

How far are you going to be willing to defend the guy and his statements?
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I wouldn't describe myself as an O'Reilly fan, as his schtick tends to grate on me, but he is often accused of lying when he simply isn't.
 
pomeroo said:
It is, of course, an outright lie to suggest that O'Reilly claimed to be a combatant in the Falklands War. No leftist worries about such trivial details when there's smearing to be done.
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Gee Pomy, I took you off ignore just for this. Thought you might like to know before you stick your foot in your mouth again, the embarrassing phone call O'Reilly got on air challenging his exaggeration wasn't the only incident.

Well here's the transcript of the incident.
O'Reilly has never served in any branch of the armed forces, although he claims to have been "in combat." But, the Bloviating Billster is no stranger to misleading his audience on the subject of his own military experience.

First, there was the infamous January 18, 2005 Radio Factor broadcast where he stated:

O'REILLY: "I've seen it. I've been close to it. And if I'm... my unit is in danger, and I've got a captured guy, and the guy knows where the enemy is, and I'm looking him in the eye, the guy better tell me. That's all I'm gonna tell you. He better tell me. If it's life or death, he's going first." ...

...Five months later on May 5, 2005 he once again implied he had combat experience when he made the following comment in an interview with Col. P. J. Crowley (USAF-Ret) and Col. Neal Puckett (USMC-Ret):

O'REILLY: Have you been in combat Colonel?

CROWLEY: Yes.

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O'REILLY: So you know what we're talkin' about. "Cause I was in combat and when you are there your adrenalin is flying through your ears. And you know you've got the gun and I just couldn't understand ...
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skeptigirl said:
Did anyone put this one up yet? Olberman on O'Reilly having Fox security call and harass people who call in and say stuff O'Reilly doesn't like. (The sound and picture don't line up all the way through)

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You are incapable of noticing that Olbermann is a raving loon. He is further to the left than Sean Hannity is to the right.
 
pomeroo said:
You are incapable of noticing that Olbermann is a raving loon. He is further to the left than Sean Hannity is to the right.
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So this destroys his evidence in... what sense, exactly?

If he's on the left, everything he brings to the table is automatically dismissable?

The guy demonstrated an actual recording, and interviewed the man involved.
 
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pomeroo said:
You are incapable of noticing that Olbermann is a raving loon. He is further to the left than Sean Hannity is to the right.
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"The lady doth protest too much, methinks."

pomeroo, nobody is more to the left than Sean Hannity is to the right. Nobody is more to the right than Sean Hannity is to the right, unless you start counting actual raving loons like Michael Savage and Ann Coulter.
 
skeptigirl said:
Gee Pomy, I took you off ignore just for this. Thought you might like to know before you stick your foot in your mouth again, the embarrassing phone call O'Reilly got on air challenging his exaggeration wasn't the only incident.

Well here's the transcript of the incident.
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Why ignore someone just because he exposes the falsehoods you peddle?

I can't claim to watch O'Reilly faithfully, but I have heard him state that he never served in the military. You seem to be pretending that he claims that he did. I don't believe you.

When he recounts his experiences as a reporter, he is saying that he has been in combat. That means he's where people can get killed by bullets, bombs, or shrapnel. Interestingly enough, reporters who get their heads blown off are just as dead as soldiers who suffer the same unpleasantness.

I like the "again" in your dishonest remark. You have yet to show when my foot has been my mouth. But, keep trying.


UPDATE: I just read the transcipt. So O'Reilly states that he has never served in the military, but he has been in combat as a reporter. I'm sure your point is in there somewhere, extremely well-hidden.
 
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Upchurch said:
"The lady doth protest too much, methinks."

pomeroo, nobody is more to the left than Sean Hannity is to the right. Nobody is more to the right than Sean Hannity is to the right, unless you start counting actual raving loons like Michael Savage and Ann Coulter.
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You're simply wrong. Hannity is certainly to my right, but Olbermann compares to Coulter, not Hannity, for total lack of objectivity and he isn't nearly as smart as she is. I can't think of a conservative pundit who approves of Michael Savage. Savage's over-the-top viciousness, however, does not exceed that of the legion of professional Bush-bashers.
 
pomeroo said:
When he recounts his experiences as a reporter, he is saying that he has been in combat. That means he's where people can get killed by bullets, bombs, or shrapnel. Interestingly enough, reporters who get their heads blown off are just as dead as soldiers who suffer the same unpleasantness.
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Does this sound like someone painting himself as a reporter or a warrior?
O'REILLY: "I've seen it. I've been close to it. And if I'm... my unit is in danger, and I've got a captured guy, and the guy knows where the enemy is, and I'm looking him in the eye, the guy better tell me. That's all I'm gonna tell you. He better tell me. If it's life or death, he's going first." ...
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What is the label O'Reilly is peddling for himself these days? "Culture ...something"? What is that word he uses?
 
pomeroo said:
You're simply wrong. Hannity is certainly to my right, but Olbermann compares to Coulter, not Hannity, for total lack of objectivity and he isn't nearly as smart as she is.
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Really? Can you point me to a list or lists of documented factual errors Olbermann has made that compares to either those of Coulter or Hannity? Factual errors, not just opinions you happen to disagree with? Preferably ones he has never recanted or corrected?


pomeroo said:
Savage's over-the-top viciousness, however, does not exceed that of the legion of professional Bush-bashers.
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Who is this legion of professional Bush-bashers who are more over-the-top than Michael "90 percent of the people on the Nobel Committee are into child pornography and molestation, according to the latest scientific studies" Savage?

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pomeroo said:
I can't think of a conservative pundit who approves of Michael Savage.
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Well, someone approves of Michael Savage. He ties with Laura Schlessinger for third highest radio audience after Limbaugh and Hannity.
 
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pomeroo said:
You're simply wrong. Hannity is certainly to my right, but Olbermann compares to Coulter, not Hannity, for total lack of objectivity and he isn't nearly as smart as she is.
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Ann Coulter isn't nearly as smart as she thinks she is.

pomeroo said:
I can't think of a conservative pundit who approves of Michael Savage. Savage's over-the-top viciousness, however, does not exceed that of the legion of professional Bush-bashers.
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Rustry Humpries. Greg Knapp. Marky Barky Levin. Neil Boortz.
 
Well this is interesting.
In 1982, he was promoted to the network as a CBS News correspondent and covered the wars in El Salvador and the Falkland Islands from his base in Buenos Aires, Argentina. He later left CBS over a dispute concerning the uncredited use in a report by Bob Schieffer of riot footage shot by O'Reilly's crew in Buenos Aires during the Falklands conflict.
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Makes one a bit curious if he even came near an actual battle.

http://www.thebiofile.com/news/archive/1155643527.php

"A million of those. I almost got killed twice. In Argentina, covering the Falklands War in 1981 for CBS News. Argentine soldiers were pointing guns at me...from 20 ft. away. In Buenos Aires. I just said, 'Perio dista no despare.' Journalist, don't shoot. Showed no fear. They didn't shoot. Covering the L.A. riots (for Inside Edition), on the corner of Normandy and Vermont, right in the middle of it. They were throwing bricks and stones at us. Concrete was raining down on us. The cops saved our butts that time."
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http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=5867

Having survived a combat situation in Argentina during the Falklands War, I know that life and death decisions are made in a flash.
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So compare all that puffery to this from Rolling Stone:

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/story/6417561/mad_dog/
In June 1982, he was sent to CBS' bureau in Buenos Aires during the Falkland Islands war. Shortly after arriving, O'Reilly went to cover a story about a crowd of angry Argentines who had gathered in the streets. He was convinced he'd landed a scoop that would put him in a prominent spot on the evening news. But his bosses gave the story to CBS' star correspondent in Buenos Aires, Bob Schieffer -- a classic case of "big-footing," which one member of the bureau points out is "normal for young reporters. That's just part of TV news." But O'Reilly wouldn't stand for it. He reportedly threw a tantrum with his bosses in Buenos Aires and had an ugly confrontation with Schieffer. Within days of arriving, O'Reilly was kicked out of the bureau. "They literally sent him home," recalls one of the team members.
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Within days of arriving?

Hahahahahahahaha, that is hilarious. This guy faced down Argentinian soldiers, was in combat, and covered 2 wars from this post and he was there only a couple days!

OMG I can't stop laughing.

I wonder what really happened in that second brush with death reporting on the LA riots?

Could someone remind me, did the Brits ever actually attack the mainland in the Falklands war?

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Apparently BillO's fiction book, Those Who Trespass, is all about some reporter who has a similar experience in the Falklands war and goes back to murder everyone who screwed him. Now that is creepy.
 
m_huber said:
I would appreciate some links to clear demonstrations of O'Reilly's spinning, lying, and overt propaganda to send to my brother's fiance. She seemed open to consideration.
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My apologies if this has already been proffered, but I think O'Reilly's pig headedness and obfuscation about the Malmady Massacre is fairly characteristic of his tactics. He seems entirely unable to make a proportionate correction when he has made an error. I'm sorry that I can't offer you any links, newbie as I am, but it's probably better if you sift through the reports yourself. Of particular interest should be the "correction" made to his transcript that tried to cast the confusion onto the viewers.

I worked in a bar for a couple of years while in college, and would periodically encounter blowhard loudmouths of O'Reilly's style. Generally they would manage to get themselves punched in the face, and slink off to excrete their opinions elsewhere. I guess as far as television goes, there is no "elsewhere."
 
Ok, thanks for the links everyone!

I particularly like mediamatters.com, as it is formatted in such a way as to provide actual references and transcripts of the mistakes that Bill made. I sent an email to my brother's fiance, and I am awaiting her reply.

I'm really shocked at just how bad this guy is. I knew he had some mistakes and some low-quality reporting, but it's absolutely absurd. How is he still on the air?

In looking for links myself, I came across foxnewsporn.com. It's rather humorous.
 
m_huber said:
I'm really shocked at just how bad this guy is. I knew he had some mistakes and some low-quality reporting, but it's absolutely absurd. How is he still on the air?
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Drooling creduloids still provide the viewer numbers to push the advertising dollar.

Lesson learned: The free market doesn't always provide the best solution to problems, such as creating a well-informed public.
 
I see pomeroo has slithered away after seeing my discovery about BillO's couple days in Buenos Aires where he claims to have seen combat in the Falklands. Must have been remote viewing.

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Perhaps someone should quote my post just in case pomy has me on reciprocal ignore.
 
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