Islamo-Fascism Awareness Week

dudalb said:
I am still puzzled by how some "Progressives" seem to want to attack Christian Fundamentalism at every opportunity,but give a pass to Islamic Fundamentalism.
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Quite the opposite, we want to point out that its very easy for Christians of all stripes (and those non-Christians growing up under a predominantly Christian worldview) to give a pass to Christian fundamentalism while attacking Islamic fundamentalism. The point is that both are bad and should be challenged, not that one is better or worse than the other.
 
ImaginalDisc said:
They're clearly "Islamic." But what is "Islamo," really? "Christiano" isn't a prefix in English, so "Islamo" didn't arise out of an analogy.
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It's just one of the peculiarities of how neologisms get formed in English. "Chocoholic", for example, doesn't mean you're addicted to chocohol. Islamofascism comes from a combination of Islam and fascism. The fact that "Islamo" doesn't mean anything is irrelevant.
 
Ziggurat said:
It's just one of the peculiarities of how neologisms get formed in English. "Chocoholic", for example, doesn't mean you're addicted to chocohol. Islamofascism comes from a combination of Islam and fascism. The fact that "Islamo" doesn't mean anything is irrelevant.
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Considering that the "fascist" suffix is misapplied, I was hoping to at least find meaning in it somewhere.
 
ImaginalDisc said:
Considering that the "fascist" suffix is misapplied, I was hoping to at least find meaning in it somewhere.
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Fair enough.

Personally, I don't care if it's called "fascist", "extremist", "supremacist" or whatever.

I care that there is a problem within islam that isn't being dealt with by islam. As a result it has become everyone elses problem.

This awareness week isn't likely to solve it either. There isn't enough people who want to be aware.

The only week I know of where there truly was an awareness of islamic supremacism was the second week of september, 2001.
 
Ziggurat said:
It's just one of the peculiarities of how neologisms get formed in English. "Chocoholic", for example, doesn't mean you're addicted to chocohol. Islamofascism comes from a combination of Islam and fascism. The fact that "Islamo" doesn't mean anything is irrelevant.
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Translation: "We made it up. Deal with it."
 
Cleon said:
Translation: "We made it up. Deal with it."
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It's a neologism, so of course it's made up. Words get made up in English all the time. So what? The fact that it's made up is rather beside the point. The relevant issue is whether the term, as defined by those who coined the term and now use it, is at all usefull. If all you've got to go on to argue against it is that it doesn't appear in the OED, well, that's really not much of an argument at all.
 
If I was a Muslim, I would be terribly offended by this term "Islamo-fascism". Islamic extremists have NOTHING to do with fascism at all. Would anyone dare call the Jews who refuse to give up the Arab areas of Jerusalem "Judeo-fascists"??

No of course not. Kicking Islam is the thing to do these days.
 
Ziggurat said:
It's a neologism, so of course it's made up. Words get made up in English all the time. So what? The fact that it's made up is rather beside the point. The relevant issue is whether the term, as defined by those who coined the term and now use it, is at all usefull. If all you've got to go on to argue against it is that it doesn't appear in the OED, well, that's really not much of an argument at all.
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It's a fabricated term for the purpose of political propaganda. As such, it's "useful" in the sense that it serves that purpose. For those of us who don't buy the propaganda, it's as worthy of scorn as other fabricated propaganda terms like "femi-nazi" and "commie-lib."

You can dress a pig like a turkey, but that don't make it kosher. (Or halal, as the case may be.)
 
Cleon said:
It's a fabricated term
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Irrelevant.

for the purpose of political propaganda. As such, it's "useful" in the sense that it serves that purpose.
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Are you claiming that the definition of Islamofascism given by those who use the term doesn't actually apply to any significant group? Because if it does, then it's useful. If it doesn't, then it's not. Whether or not it can be labeled as propaganda is actually irrelevant. Propaganda can be true, you know.
 
Ziggurat said:
Irrelevant.
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Quite relevant as to whether the term is, in the words of Col. Potter, "mule fritters."

Are you claiming that ...
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This is what I'm claiming:

It's a fabricated term for the purpose of political propaganda. As such, it's "useful" in the sense that it serves that purpose. For those of us who don't buy the propaganda, it's as worthy of scorn as other fabricated propaganda terms like "femi-nazi" and "commie-lib."
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Hmm ... that article makes interesting reading.

Couldn't they have just named their event "Scream The Same Stupid Filthy Hysterical Lies About 'The Left' As We Do Every Other Week"?

Kudos to 'em for dragging in global warming at the same time.
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As opposed to all the Hysteria about Conservatives I hear from the Left on a constant basis?
Am I the only one who has problems with BOTH Left and Right wing ideologies?
 
parky76 said:
If I was a Muslim, I would be terribly offended by this term "Islamo-fascism". Islamic extremists have NOTHING to do with fascism at all. Would anyone dare call the Jews who refuse to give up the Arab areas of Jerusalem "Judeo-fascists"??

No of course not. Kicking Islam is the thing to do these days.
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Maybe 9/11 and sucide bombers have something to do with it.
 
No, no, Cleon, the Republichildmolesters have a point. If Conservobestialitists want to make up words that are intrinsically untruthful, then I suggest that we leave 'em to it.

Except for purposes of comedy, of course.
 
It's strange that whenever comparisons are made between America and Nazi Germany, people who view themselves as liberal say it is a valid comparison, but when Islamic extremists are compared to fascists, these very same people freak out.

Strange world.

ETA: seems criticism and name-calling is only good when the US is concerned, but don't touch the ones killing innocent people in the name of Allah, or you'll be called a racist.
 
Ziggurat said:
Yeah, cause opposing gay marriage is really just the same as stoning homosexuals. The hypocrisy! :rolleyes:

I'm no fan of the Christian right, but really, you're a blind fool if you can't tell the difference.
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Wait, wait... so it's okay for the Christian Right to disassociate with groups like the Phelps clan or those who feel its okay to commit violence against homosexuals*, but it's not okay for Muslims to disassociate with those who practice extreme punishments against homosexuals?

Just trying to figure out the rules to all these double-standards.
 
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