Time to kick Iran

[Pardalis]

That's your opinion - but doesn't sound very convincing:
Full Article: http://www.ynetnews.com/Ext/Comp/Art...453810,00.html

And how does that disprove that Ahmadinejad's "peace effort", as you call it, was a sham? He did visit a very radical branch of a very radical Jewish sect.

And by the way, your article states this:

The Jewish community in Iran spans some 25,000 people, who are considered loyal to the country's radical Islamist regime's anti-Zionist policies; but many believe the community's loyalty is merely a means of survival.

Please get help Oliver.

 

[Oliver]

Iran once again affirmed that they will work together with the
IAEA - as they did all the time ... as long they weren't fooled.

This, of course basically means that they play to the Rules of
the IAEA and have every right to do anything the IAEA rules
allows. But the Liars don't care about Rules - they still prefer
to play the whiny wieners:

[SIZE=-1]Iran says will work with IAEA to avert sanctions [SIZE=-1]Reuters South Africa

[/SIZE][/SIZE]TEHRAN (Reuters) - Iran will continue its cooperation with the U.N. atomic watchdog to defuse a row over its nuclear programme, an Iranian official said on Sunday, accusing some Western states of trying to disrupt the process.

Six world powers agreed on Friday to delay a vote on tougher U.N. sanctions on Iran until late November at the earliest, to wait for reports by the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) and European Union negotiator Javier Solana.

The United States and France had sought swifter action to step up economic and political pressure on Iran for refusing to halt uranium enrichment, which the West suspects is aimed at developing nuclear arms. Iran denies those charges.

Full Article: http://africa.reuters.com/world/news/usnBLA029148.html

 

[Undesired Walrus]

Iran once again affirmed that they will work together with the
IAEA - as they did all the time ... as long they weren't fooled.

This, of course basically means that they play to the Rules of
the IAEA and have every right to do anything the IAEA rules
allows. But the Liars don't care about Rules - they still prefer
to play the whiny wieners:

As far as my limited knowledge of the Iranian executive, legislative and judicial systems go, I'd hedge a guess that the government is not all joined at the hip.

Regardless, none of this changes the fact they have a raving nutcase in charge.

 

[RandFan]

Iran once again affirmed that they will work together with the
IAEA - as they did all the time ... as long they weren't fooled.

This, of course basically means that they play to the Rules of
the IAEA and have every right to do anything the IAEA rules
allows. But the Liars don't care about Rules - they still prefer
to play the whiny wieners:

The neutrality of this article is disputed.

You still don't get it.

 

[Pardalis]

whiny wieners?

You're not really 33 are you?

 

[KoihimeNakamura]

Wake up... :

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Movement_to_impeach_George_W._Bush
6 Rationales for impeachment

I am awake. Incidently, got a more repudiable source than wikipedia? For political stuff, it's not really a good citation.

Iran once again affirmed that they will work together with the
IAEA - as they did all the time ... as long they weren't fooled.

This, of course basically means that they play to the Rules of
the IAEA and have every right to do anything the IAEA rules
allows. But the Liars don't care

Did it occur to you that if they fool the IAEA, the results are disasterous? It's half propaganda, half worst case planning (probalby because of distrust)

 

[gtc]

whiny wieners?

You're not really 33 are you?

I thought he was complaining about the Austrians.

 

[gtc]

Because there is no terror threat, period:

Attack at US embassy in Vienna thwarted.

Is this what Oliver means by a whiny Wiener?

 

[Oliver]

Because there is no terror threat, period:

Attack at US embassy in Vienna thwarted.

Is this what Oliver means by a whiny Wiener?

From this article:

"Police investigate a backpack that contained hand grenades, nails and Islamic literature, near the U.S...."

OMG!!1!OMG!!!!1111!!!! The end of the world is near!!111!
The Article itself is a whiny wiener. And off-topic.

In the Meantime - the latest news about Iran (Video):
Sy Hersh On Countdown: Bush Moving The Goal Posts On Iran - Again

 

[gtc]

The Article itself is a whiny wiener.

So Oliver was talking about Austrians!

I'm glad we sorted that out.

But seriously, how would you have reported on this story if you were a reporter who did not want to write a whiny wiener article?

 

[steverino]

I believe more in Irans Government than the current White House - because the current White House got caught in
so many lies, cover ups, distortions and half-truths that you
can't believe them anyway.

BTW: How often did Iran lie in the last view years?

So you are saying that when Mahamoud Ahmadinejad speaks of erasing Israel from the Earth, this is no distortion or half-truth, but in fact you believe he will be an honest man and honor this promise?

 

[jsiv]

So you are saying that when Mahamoud Ahmadinejad speaks of erasing Israel from the Earth, this is no distortion or half-truth, but in fact you believe he will be an honest man and honor this promise?

You've got it half right. Oliver does not believe that Ahmadinejad wants the actual country gone. Oliver believes that Ahmadinejad only means that the "Zionist government of Israel" which is mean to the Palestinians should be peacefully voted out of power and replaced with a more peace-loving government made up of real Jews (not baby-eating Zionists) that will then prosecute the Zionists for crimes against humanity, which makes the statements perfectly okay, as it's a cause he himself agrees with.


And there is nothing funny about a nail bomb. Unless, of course, it detonates and only hits a few Zionists or Republicans, as that would be hilarious.

 

[Darth Rotor]

So you believe Iran and not the USA, Oliver?

I believe more in Irans Government than the current White House - because the current White House got caught in so many lies, cover ups, distortions and half-truths that you
can't believe them anyway.

BTW: How often did Iran lie in the last view years?

Oliver Logic = Truther Logic

P = credibility of public utterances, USA
Q = credibility of public utterances, Iran

If Not P, Then Necessarily Q
(regardless of dependency, or independency, of the relationship between Q and P)
This sort of thinking is classic Truther "Logic" construction. I ask, why does anyone waste time on dealing with a series of positions supported by an utter lack of reasoning ability? You might as well head over to the LCF, and discuss such paragons of reasoning and logic:

"If 9-11 Commission report and NIST do NOT answer all possible questions,

Then it was an inside job and a controlled demolition was used on the WTC towers."

Eerily similar constructs, yet for some reason it attracts comment like chum attracts sharks. Funny, it is as appetizing as chum.

Fortunately for the US space program, for example, people who actually understand cause and effect relationships built the equipment that went to the moon, and back.

DR

 

[Oliver]

Oliver Logic = Truther Logic

P = credibility of public utterances, USA
Q = credibility of public utterances, Iran

If Not P, Then Necessarily Q
(regardless of dependency, or independency, of the relationship between Q and P)
This sort of thinking is classic Truther "Logic" construction. I ask, why does anyone waste time on dealing with a series of positions supported by an utter lack of reasoning ability? You might as well head over to the LCF, and discuss such paragons of reasoning and logic:

"If 9-11 Commission report and NIST do NOT answer all possible questions,

Then it was an inside job and a controlled demolition was used on the WTC towers."

Eerily similar constructs, yet for some reason it attracts comment like chum attracts sharks. Funny, it is as appetizing as chum.

Fortunately for the US space program, for example, people who actually understand cause and effect relationships built the equipment that went to the moon, and back.

DR

You're wrong.

I started this thread because I saw it coming that all of this
will probably go the same way as back at the time when Iraq
was hyped for "evilness".

Seriously, who believes such crap - and for what reasons?
People can't be THAT stupid, can they?

ETA: Oh, and there still is no evidence for any nukes. So I
agree with you here: Everything else is paranoia, bias, lies,
stupidity and "trutherism".

 

[Darth Rotor]

You're wrong.

I started this thread because I saw it coming that all of this
will probably go the same way as back at the time when Iraq
was hyped for "evilness".

Seriously, who believes such crap - and for what reasons?
People can't be THAT stupid, can they?

ETA: Oh, and there still is no evidence for any nukes. So I
agree with you here: Everything else is paranoia, bias, lies,
stupidity and "trutherism".

Non sequitur.

You do not address my comments, other than via hypberbole in the ETA, and your reasoning path used to defend your choices of who you believe more is hard to differentiate from troofer "logic" structures.

Nothing in that post addresses your problem in expressed attempts at reasoning. Your choice to ignore Iraq's weapons programs, in whatever state of disrepair, is also dishonest, since you wish them away rather than address them.

When you cease with troofer reasoning methods, and argument by soundbyte, you'll restore your rep.

DR

 

[Gurdur]

.....When you cease with troofer reasoning methods, and argument by soundbyte, you'll restore your rep.

When? There's a certain problem with that.

 

[RandFan]

Oliver Logic = Truther Logic

P = credibility of public utterances, USA
Q = credibility of public utterances, Iran

If Not P, Then Necessarily Q
(regardless of dependency, or independency, of the relationship between Q and P)
This sort of thinking is classic Truther "Logic" construction. I ask, why does anyone waste time on dealing with a series of positions supported by an utter lack of reasoning ability? You might as well head over to the LCF, and discuss such paragons of reasoning and logic:

"If 9-11 Commission report and NIST do NOT answer all possible questions,

Then it was an inside job and a controlled demolition was used on the WTC towers."

Eerily similar constructs, yet for some reason it attracts comment like chum attracts sharks. Funny, it is as appetizing as chum.

Fortunately for the US space program, for example, people who actually understand cause and effect relationships built the equipment that went to the moon, and back.

DR

Good post. I wish Oliver would address it with something substantive.

 

[Oliver]

Good post. I wish Oliver would address it with something substantive.

I will .... looks like Hillary Clinton is about to introduce her own
counter-bill for the Kyl/Lieberman-Amendment:

Washington, DC – Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton today announced that she is co-sponsoring legislation introduced by Senator Jim Webb (D-VA) that prohibits the use of funds for military operations against Iran without explicit Congressional authorization (S. 759).

Source: http://clinton.senate.gov/news/statements/details.cfm?id=284618&&

 

[RandFan]

I will .... looks like Hillary Clinton is about to introduce her own counter-bill for the Kyl/Lieberman-Amendment:

Wow, enough substance there to knock your socks off... what substance that is I don't know. I guess Oliver has redefined substance.

Thanks for that Oliver.

Next word for you to change "meaningful" as in, I wish Oliver would post something "meaningful".

 

[Darth Rotor]

I will .... looks like Hillary Clinton is about to introduce her own counter-bill for the Kyl/Lieberman-Amendment:

If I understand why you linked this, Jim Webb has proposed that it isn't time to kick Iran.

No surprise, he was against the Iraq war as it was looming.

DR