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Time to kick Iran

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Tokorona said:
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It already has from large areas of hte West Bank, IIRC. The rest is most of what it got under the 1948 agreement.
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Good.

That's progress.

It has to go exactly to the 1948 lines.

And a sovereign Palestinian state, responsible worldwide about its citizens.
 
Ion said:
Good.

That's progress.

It has to go exactly to the 1948 lines.

And a sovereign Palestinian state, responsible worldwide about its citizens.
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Exactly. What's the whining about anyway? Occupied land
is a pretty self-explaining term, isn't it? :confused:
 
Tokorona said:
Consider when they were occupied (the seven day war) and secondly, why they're occupied (Buffer zone, although Isreal is thinking about withdrawing from more of the areas)
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But thinking about this for years is no solution. But to get
back on topic. There is no evidence for Iranian Nukes or
Iran posing any threat whatsoever for the lying US officials
who are trying to tell the opposite - once again:

http://irancoverage.com/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1YZizrtgi7Q
http://www.youtube.com/v/kB9aFir1Yi4
http://www.youtube.com/user/irancoverage
 
Wohoo! Another step towards war. Let's see if Lieberman and
friends are able to get it through congress: :popcorn2

S.AMDT.3017
Amends: H.R.1585 , S.AMDT.2011
Sponsor: Sen Kyl, Jon [AZ] (submitted 9/20/2007) (proposed 9/20/2007)
AMENDMENT PURPOSE: To express the sense of the Senate regarding Iran.
TEXT OF AMENDMENT AS SUBMITTED: CR S11911

(b) Sense of Senate.--It is the sense of the Senate-- (1) *snip* Iran to pose a threat to the security of the region, the prospects for democracy for the people of the region, and the health of the global economy;
(2) that it is a vital national interest of the United States to prevent the Government of the Islamic Republic of Iran from turning Shi'a militia extremists in Iraq into a Hezbollah-like force *snip*
(3) that it should be the policy of the United States to combat, contain, and roll back the violent activities and destabilizing influence inside Iraq of the Government of the Islamic Republic of Iran, its foreign facilitators such as Lebanese Hezbollah, and its indigenous Iraqi proxies *snip*
(4) to support the prudent and calibrated use of all instruments of United States national power in Iraq, including diplomatic, economic, intelligence, and military instruments *snip* in support of the policy described in paragraph (3) with respect to the Government of the Islamic Republic of Iran and its proxies;
(5) that the United States should designate the Islamic Revolutionary Guards Corps as a foreign terrorist organization under section 219 of the Immigration and Nationality Act and place the Islamic Revolutionary Guards Corps on the list of Specially Designated Global Terrorists as established under the International Emergency Economic Powers Act and initiated under Executive Order 13224; *snip*

Source: http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d110:SP3017:
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And this is the DailyKKKKos's article regarding the Amendment:

It seems the Neocons are planning to get the maximum value out of what's sure to be Ahmadinejad's upcoming foot-in-mouth fest in New York next week. Indeed the multiple major protests including those by Jewish groups, and assorted other chest beatings and speeches will provide just the kind of circus atmosphere that can allow a serious AIPAC-backed legislation like this to be rammed through the Senate. The attention-loving Ahmadinejad will no doubt stir the pot to the best of his abilities. Visits to WTC may have been denied, but there's still the speech at Columbia, the buzz-slash-psyops about a possible meeting with Syria and North Korea, a possible return visit with the anti-zionist Jewish groups, who shook his hands in Tehran last year, and a meeting with Iranian Americans. Israelis have already gone Godwin, with their UN rep saying "Ahmadinejad visiting Ground Zero is like Hitler visiting Auschwitz."

Full Article: http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/9/22/2231/58938
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Gulf of Tonkin lie = 3 million dead
Iraq WMD lies = 1 million dead, and counting
Iran a 'threat' lies = ....... dead (fill in the blank with your own estimate)
 
plumjam said:
Iran a 'threat' lies = ....... dead (fill in the blank with your own estimate)
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Since it won't be you, what do you care? Seriously. What's your beef? You are more likely to die in a car accident than in any war started with Iran.

Note: I am on record and maintain still that beginning a war with Iran is not in the interests of the US of A, whose interests I am most concerned about.

DR
 
Oliver said:
Wohoo! Another step towards war. Let's see if Lieberman and
friends are able to get it through congress: :popcorn2

S.AMDT.3017
Amends: H.R.1585 , S.AMDT.2011
Sponsor: Sen Kyl, Jon [AZ] (submitted 9/20/2007) (proposed 9/20/2007)
AMENDMENT PURPOSE: To express the sense of the Senate regarding Iran.
TEXT OF AMENDMENT AS SUBMITTED: CR S11911
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Well, seems there is some resistance against the Lieberman
and Kyl Amendment. Does someone know when the voting
will take place? As far I remember it's today (Tuesday).

Sen. Webb blasts Lieberman/Kyl Amendment: “This proposal is Dick Cheney’s fondest pipe dream”
 
For those who didn't catch it. The "Lieberman-Iran-Amendment" passed congress:

Senate Urges Bush to Attack Iran
[SIZE=-1]Huffington Post, NY - 1 hour ago[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]Kyl-Lieberman is the first step in providing Congressional legitimacy for military action against Iran. The 76 to 22 vote, which also had the support of ...

[/SIZE][SIZE=-1]Senate passes Kyl-Lieberman measure on Iran [SIZE=-1]The Carpetbagger Report[/SIZE][/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]Hillary Clinton Votes for War Again [SIZE=-1]Huffington Post[/SIZE][/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]BREAKING: Lieberman-Kyl Iran amendment passes [SIZE=-1]Toward Freedom[/SIZE][/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]Newsday - Associated Content[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]all 40 news articles »

Source:
http://news.google.com/news?q=kyl+l...e=UTF-8&sa=X&oi=news_result&resnum=1&ct=title


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ETA: More news regarding sanctions against Iran:

Germany at odds with US, France on Iran
Thu, 27 Sep 2007 21:50:59

Germany will not support further sanctions against Iran over its disputed nuclear program outside the United Nations Security Council.

Source: http://www.presstv.ir/detail.aspx?id=24873&sectionid=351020104
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Darth Rotor said:
Since it won't be you, what do you care? Seriously. What's your beef? You are more likely to die in a car accident than in any war started with Iran.

Note: I am on record and maintain still that beginning a war with Iran is not in the interests of the US of A, whose interests I am most concerned about.

DR
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Are you kidding?
I guess this means no human being can have empathy or compassion for any other. Oh, well :rolleyes:
I guess you have no empathy for the victims of 9/11 or 7/7 then, seeing as it wasn't you
 
"Yesterday, the Senate was poised to vote on a non-binding resolution, sponsored by Sens. Joe Lieberman (I-Conn.) and Jon Kyl (R-Ariz.), to get the chamber on record supporting some aggressive language towards Iran"

Non-binding, too. Anyway, I'm just surprised they allowed it, but hey, wartime's good for.. no-one.
 
While many Parts of Media and Politics are mongering against him:
In the meantime, Ahmadinejad is continuing his peace efforts:

President Ahmadinejad meets Jewish rabbis in New York
Full Article: http://www.president.ir/en/?ArtID=6759

"All people in the world have now understood that Judaism is different from Zionism," said the president.

He added, "Zionists are a political group looking for taking advantage of the opportunities while Jews are the followers of the Moses who promoted peace and friendship."
President Ahmadinejad stressed that there was no disagreement between the followers of Judaism, Christianity and Islam as they all pray the same God and are brothers.
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