Psychic Detectives are real

[BrianSI]

Can one be finite and infinite at the same time?

Yes. One. Only one. And I called it first.

 

[this charming man]

How do ghosts "talk"?

If they talk, why is it that "not everyone" can hear the sound?
Sound is simple waves traveling through the atmosphere (air).
Do they speak at some decibel level only psychics can hear?
If this is the case, a simple hearing test may be able to prove this theory.
Since psychics "hear" the spirit, the spirit must talk; therefore, why not have a super-sensitive sound recorder on while John Edwards is chatting up the deceased? Don't even say buhbuhbuh but...EVP. that's all bunk and inconclusive junk.

 

[JoeEllison]

Mmmm ... I like bacon.

For some reason, though, I doubt that my cremated corpse will have a particular fondness for bacon.

 

[this charming man]

Yes. One. Only one. And I called it first.

You'll have to chop me noggin off first.

/but then you better watch out!
//I'll haunt you via my ghostly apparition!

 

[Slimething]

"Let me explain to you why we ask for the math first. The math determines what is possible. Perhaps the solutions to the equations are a little vague and point to possibilities that may or may not be real but the math will always tell you what is NOT possible".

Slimething, this one quote from your post shows why you asked for the math.

This is called communication. Try it!

You said the math shows what's NOT possible and yet you were not able to show how the things I said violated the math.

I can't show you where your math is wrong because you haven't posted your math. I have no idea what construct you are using. There are several, y'know! Plainly, the theory of decoherence does not support what you are saying. (The Theory of Incoherence does, but that's a different post.) Schrodinger's Equation has nothing to do with what you've said. So, what is it? What's YOUR equation, Einstein?

I'm not going sit here and give you equations for everything I mentioned. I would hope that you at least know the math enough to have a debate.

I, for one, can't read minds. Never been able to do that. Wish I could. Let me repeat this so that you may understand: I CANNOT DISCUSS PHYSICS WITHOUT THE UNDERPINNING MATH. Did that work?

I never said they were altered at death. That's your words, not mine. In fact, I said the energy at death is not altered but remains the same. The energy can't be created nor destroyed even at death.

Lessee:

It's well known that we survive death naturally it's just not widely accepted because people have a vested interest in death after death. We are energy in motion and our material bodies are in a state of decoherence. Death is the unraveling of decoherence. The material body dies but not their energy

I'm saying after death you become aware of the rest of your wavefunction that was hidden from you while you were in a decohered state (human body). This is why many near death experiences talk about becoming aware as they leave consciousness. Death = the unraveling of decohernce.

Your words up there, not mine. You state plainly that you believe that death is an "unraveling of decoherence" (whatever that is). That, dear one, is a change of phase and energy state at the very least. You may not realize it but changing a QM variable equates to changing an energy state. Don't believe me? Check out NMR. Gotcha.

So you are saying when a person dies, their energy dies as well?

No. I am saying that nothing at all happens. There is no "personal" energy locked in elementary particles that can be communicated with. Nor have I seen any evidence from you that accounts for the energy input into such a system that would be necessary for communication. Or did you forget that the impartation of information also changes an energy state (credit Heisenberg).

The term rest in peace makes no sense because we are never fully at rest even when you die. Have you ever heard of zero point energy and the harmonic oscillator? The particles that make up our bodies are never at rest. There's always a level of energy and motion even when we are dead. Do I need to post all the equations for zero point energy LOL? That makes no sense Slimething. If you don't already know the equations or about zero point energy than google it.

I know the equations and I know the constants. I need you to tell me specifically which equation you are using that allows information to be gathered from a system of any type without affecting its quantum state. Then, give me your variables and I'll do all the work. Fair?

I also talked about decoherence, the wave function and more. Do I have to post the equations for all of these things to debate these things LOL?

No, just the variables you're using. LOL

Slimething, if I knew beforehand that you didn't understand the math, I would have never began to debate you on these things. I suggest you do some reading.

I understand the math. You're the one who's dodging, polio.

So, you couldn't even find a citation for your lunacy? That's the message I'm taking away. You're a buffoon who pulls their personal brand of ersatz QM from their anus. Your ideas are fluff and so are you.

LOL

 

[BrianSI]

For some reason, though, I doubt that my cremated corpse will have a particular fondness for bacon.

Okay ... fine.

I'll try to stay on topic too.


Jeez.

 

[JoeEllison]

Okay ... fine.

I'll try to stay on topic too.


Jeez.

This sort of IS on topic, don't you think? As much as anything else?

 

[BrianSI]

The fact that I'm hungry?

 

[polomontana]

Slimething,

It's well known that we survive death naturally it's just not widely accepted because people have a vested interest in death after death. We are energy in motion and our material bodies are in a state of decoherence. Death is the unraveling of decoherence. The material body dies but not their energy

I'm saying after death you become aware of the rest of your wavefunction that was hidden from you while you were in a decohered state (human body). This is why many near death experiences talk about becoming aware as they leave consciousness. Death = the unraveling of decohernce.

Show me anywhere in my quote that I used the word altered? Also show me the math that says zero point energy experiences a phase change? Where are you getting this from? Zero point energy is the ground energy state so where's your "math" that zero point energy goes through any kind of phase change. GOTCHA .

How does the information change the state of zero point energy? Where's your math for this?

I will leave you with a simple equation, E=hw/2, how does this change phase? LOL CHECKMATE!!

 

[JoeEllison]

Slimething,

It's well known that we survive death naturally it's just not widely accepted because people have a vested interest in death after death. We are energy in motion and our material bodies are in a state of decoherence. Death is the unraveling of decoherence. The material body dies but not their energy

I'm saying after death you become aware of the rest of your wavefunction that was hidden from you while you were in a decohered state (human body). This is why many near death experiences talk about becoming aware as they leave consciousness. Death = the unraveling of decohernce.

Show me anywhere in my quote that I used the word altered? Also show me the math that says zero point energy experiences a phase change? Where are you getting this from? Zero point energy is the ground energy state so where's your "math" that zero point energy goes through any kind of phase change. GOTCHA .

How does the information change the state of zero point energy? Where's your math for this?

I will leave you with a simple equation, E=hw/2, how does this change phase? LOL CHECKMATE!!

TROLL!!

 

[BrianSI]

You'll have to chop me noggin off first.

/but then you better watch out!
//I'll haunt you via my ghostly apparition!

I'm still working on these rules ...

Wouldn't I have to be psychic to be successfully haunted?

Maybe Polowyoming will help me with this.

 

[Normal Dude]

Slimething,

It's well known that we survive death naturally it's just not widely accepted because people have a vested interest in death after death. We are energy in motion and our material bodies are in a state of decoherence. Death is the unraveling of decoherence. The material body dies but not their energy

I'm saying after death you become aware of the rest of your wavefunction that was hidden from you while you were in a decohered state (human body). This is why many near death experiences talk about becoming aware as they leave consciousness. Death = the unraveling of decohernce.

This is an almost (If not) verbatim repeat of your earlier posts.

 

[Rodney]

The woo-sters are just so incredibly dumb: Jordan is a fraud.

Your link fails to show that, but it does show Joe Nickell's dishonesty in misrepresenting himself to Jordan. Jordan may not always be accurate, but police think he seems to have done pretty well in this case:

Mike Mucci, who was a Chemung County Sheriff's Department investigator, and Charles "Corky" Patterson, a sergeant in the Elmira Police Department Detective Bureau, had been working the case as a team since November 1989.

Together, they conducted more than 350 interviews, Mucci said recently. They gathered a good deal of evidence against the suspects: DNA, bite marks and witness accounts. But they couldn't connect Cuddy, who was not originally from Elmira, with Moore, a native of the city.

Then, for some reason they can't really explain, the investigators called Jordan and asked if he'd look over the case. It was a fairly bold move at the time — perhaps the first time a psychic had been called in on a case in Chemung County, Mucci said.

"We were well on our way, and we just decided to go down there just as a why-not type of thing, as another tool," Mucci said.

"We had the case pretty much put together," Patterson said. "But there were some things still missing, and we were still not sure about some things."

Jordan told them, for example, that the man who did the killing had a homemade tattoo on his left shoulder. It was a name, Jordan said, but he could not read it.

Of those on the case, only Patterson had that information. Having interviewed Cuddy in prison, he knew Cuddy had a tattoo on his left shoulder.

"It was a woman's name," Patterson said, "but it was blurry. You couldn't read it."

"He was absolutely astounding," said Patterson, who is retired. "Everything he said was right on the money."

Cuddy went to trial first and was convicted of second-degree murder and first-degree burglary. Moore's first trial ended in a hung jury on the murder charge. A short time later, in a second trial, he, too, was convicted. Both are still in prison.

 

[BrianSI]

This is an almost (If not) verbatim repeat of your earlier posts.

Plus, no matter which words you use to dress up nonsense, it's still nonsense.

 

[this charming man]

We are energy in motion...

No, an animal is matter that stores and converts other types of matter into energy. Motion and locomotion is the result of the storing and use of that converted matter.

If you did not eat or drink water, you would die because you would run out of energy to keep your CNS running. Your organs would shut down and you would die a slow and painful death.

If we were energy, we would not need to convert matter to energy.

 

[BrianSI]

Hmmm ... I have a quiz.


Which one of these two things is not like the other?

1) Anecdote.

2) Evidence.

 

[Hokulele]

BrianS1,

What's the difference? The ashes and the smoke are still entangled. You asked about cremation. A person's energy is not confined to the location of their body in space.

So, if you burn the dead remains of a formerly living thing, their "energy" (whatever the hell you mean by that), lingers around the scene indefinitely?


*Stares at wood stove in horror *

 

[this charming man]

Hmmm ... I have a quiz.


Which one of these two things is not like the other?

1) Anecdote.

2) Evidence.

um, that one kid, in the bottom left, she is NOT jump-roping; every other kid IS jump-roping.

 

[polomontana]

This Charming,

You are turning physics on it's head. Remember E=MC2. Matter can be converted to energy and energy can be converted to matter. Just because we eat doesn't mean we are something outside of matter/energy.

 

[Slimething]

Slimething,

It's well known that we survive death naturally it's just not widely accepted because people have a vested interest in death after death. We are energy in motion and our material bodies are in a state of decoherence. Death is the unraveling of decoherence. The material body dies but not their energy

I'm saying after death you become aware of the rest of your wavefunction that was hidden from you while you were in a decohered state (human body). This is why many near death experiences talk about becoming aware as they leave consciousness. Death = the unraveling of decohernce.

Show me anywhere in my quote that I used the word altered? Also show me the math that says zero point energy experiences a phase change? Where are you getting this from? Zero point energy is the ground energy state so where's your "math" that zero point energy goes through any kind of phase change. GOTCHA .

How does the information change the state of zero point energy? Where's your math for this?

I will leave you with a simple equation, E=hw/2, how does this change phase? LOL CHECKMATE!!

Sorry, bub, not interested in anything you have to say anymore. Find someone else to play with.

BTW, idiot, the zero-point harmonic equation you've posted is a special form that doesn't work with anything other than zero-point harmonics. So, again, you've demonstrated your amazing ignorance of QM.

Buh-bye!