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Psychic Detectives are real

http://www.democratandchronicle.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070722/NEWS01/707220323/1002/NEWS

More ammo for the woo warriors.






TV show to document psychic's aid in Elmira murder case


Roger Neumann
Elmira Star-Gazette



(July 22, 2007) — Of the hundreds of police cases to which he has applied his psychic powers, Phil Jordan says the 1988 murder of an Elmira woman is one of the most memorable.

"It's probably one of the best cases that I've worked because some of the things I did were very uncanny," he said recently.

Meeting with investigators, Jordan picked the two suspects' photos out of a stack of 50 to 75 mug shots, described the house where the suspects attended a party after the murder, identified a missing piece of evidence, and pointed out that one of the suspects was already behind bars for another crime.




I am sure this will be a totally unbiased and scientifically based program.:rolleyes:
 
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JoeEllison said:
You're not a "freethinker", at all. You're completely closed to any evidence.
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Just as free-flowing is just letting things roll of the tongue, maybe freethinking is just letting thoughts run through your head with no reasoning applied to them whatsoever.

Because if so, he's a world class freethinker. :p
 
Gord,

Your posts supports my hypothesis. Psychic ability will not be right 100% of the time because theirs nothing supernatural about it because it occurs naturally so it's subject to human error. All doctors will not cure 100% of their cases, lawyers will not win all of their trials and detectives will not solve all of it's cases. A psychic will not be 100% correct because of human error. Why do skeptics hold psychics to an unreasonable standard supported by the false notion that psychic ability is a "supernatural power."
 
Drudgewire said:
Just as free-flowing is just letting things roll of the tongue, maybe freethinking is just letting thoughts run through your head with no reasoning applied to them whatsoever.

Because if so, he's a world class freethinker. :p
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Also because it doesn't cost anything ... ?
 
polomontana said:
Why do skeptics hold psychics to an unreasonable standard supported by the false notion that psychic ability is a "supernatural power."
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We hold them to the same standard we hold everything else. You, on the other hand, hold them to no standard whatsoever. They make the claims, you believe them without reservation, you resist any evidence that would cast doubt on those claims.
 
Goofball said:
"It's probably one of the best cases that I've worked because some of the things I did were very uncanny," he said recently.
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You know, when a police profiler gets things just as right he makes some smarmy comment to his co-workers about how smart he is over drinks, and they begrudgingly agree he did his job flawlessly in that case then order another round and change the subject to something non-work related.
 
BrianSI,

If a person is cremated, they are still present just in a different form. It's like boiling water. The water turns to steam but it doesn't disappear. The energy associated with the water is still present even if you can't see the water because it changed form to steam.
 
Polomontana, so far you have offered only your interpretation of physics, rhetorical argumentation, and declarations that we need to be "free thinkers". Can you personally provide anything testable? An individual who demonstrates psychic powers? A demonstration of contact with the dead? Let's put it (whatever you can provide) to the test. What do you say?
 
polomontana said:
BrianSI,

If a person is cremated, they are still present just in a different form. It's like boiling water. The water turns to steam but it doesn't disappear. The energy associated with the water is still present even if you can't see the water because it changed form to steam.
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More nonsense proving that you have no clue about physics.
 
polomontana said:
BrianSI,

If a person is cremated, they are still present just in a different form. It's like boiling water. The water turns to steam but it doesn't disappear. The energy associated with the water is still present even if you can't see the water because it changed form to steam.
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So in this analogy, does the psychic communicate with the smoke, or the ashes?


ETA: I can see steam.
 
polomontana said:
BrianSI,

If a person is cremated, they are still present just in a different form. It's like boiling water. The water turns to steam but it doesn't disappear. The energy associated with the water is still present even if you can't see the water because it changed form to steam.
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All water goes to heaven.
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BrianSI said:
So in this analogy, does the psychic communicate with the smoke, or the ashes?


ETA: I can see steam.
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In hindsight, I must apologize for giving this credit as an analogy.


I did do poorly on that portion of the SAT.
 
BrianSI said:
In hindsight, I must apologize for calling this steam explanation thing an analogy.


I did do poorly on that portion of the SAT.
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This time, in hindsight ... I'm sorry I used the word 'explanation'.
 
BrianS1,

What's the difference? The ashes and the smoke are still entangled. You asked about cremation. A person's energy is not confined to the location of their body in space. Zero point energy is infinite and not located at just any one point in space-time. This is why physicist have to use renormilazation in their equations in order to cancel out the infinities.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Renormalization
 
polomontana said:
BrianSI,

If a person is cremated, they are still present just in a different form. It's like boiling water. The water turns to steam but it doesn't disappear. The energy associated with the water is still present even if you can't see the water because it changed form to steam.
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:boggled: Let me take a stab, and people smarter than me tell me if I am off base here.

Matter cannot be created nor destroyed; it can only change forms (matter to energy and vis versa)

Matter can also change states.

When water is frozen or boiled (steam) that is a physical change. Steam and Ice can be changed back to its liquid form.

When an animal is cremated, and humans are animals, that is a chemical change. One cannot reconstitute back to the original form. The tissue and fat has burned away and become gas in the surrounding space. It is indistinguishable from any other gas of the same atom type.

When an animal dies, it is, for the lack of a better term, dead. Animals need a central nervous system to live and function. One could argue a machine could do this in the CNS's place; however, a cremated animal has no CNS nor any organs; therefore, It is impossible to talk, communicate, or cause mischief. There are no ghosts, spirits, or souls.

/that was my first attempt at a rebuttal here.
//how'd I do?:)
 
this charming man said:
:boggled: Let me take a stab, and people smarter than me tell me if I am off base here.

Matter cannot be created nor destroyed; it can only change forms (matter to energy and vis versa)

Matter can also change states.

When water is frozen or boiled (steam) that is a physical change. Steam and Ice can be changed back to its liquid form.

When an animal is cremated, and humans are animals, that is a chemical change. One cannot reconstitute back to the original form. The tissue and fat has burned away and become gas in the surrounding space. It is indistinguishable from any other gas of the same atom type.

When an animal dies, it is, for the lack of a better term, dead. Animals need a central nervous system to live and function. One could argue a machine could do this in the CNS's place; however, a cremated animal has no CNS nor any organs; therefore, It is impossible to talk, communicate, or cause mischief. There are no ghosts, spirits, or souls.

/that was my first attempt at a rebuttal here.
//how'd I do?:)
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Pretty damned good. Plus, there's no evidence that my bacon has any memory of being a pig.:)
 
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