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[Moderated]175 did NOT hit the South tower.

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slingblade said:
Someone please make/find a lolcat of a kitten with a big, wide, eye-closing yawn and the caption, "STILL WRONG!" I promise to get tons of use from it.
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Youz weesh iz myz commandedz

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DGM said:
I can't resist. You don't happen to have a spec. or two? The armor is to punch through buildings, right?
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Not with the factory made job, no, of course not.
However, whilst the attack planes were in the Boeing hangar at Offutt, having the pods and the Raytheon homing electronics fitted. The wings leading edges etc, were reinforced, so that they could slice into the facade of the towers. In the same way that a couple of years ago, in Europe, a USAF fighter plane sliced through the cables on a cable car way, in the Alps. The fighter carried on, oblivious to the damage it had done. Half a dozen or so skiers, plunged to their deaths. That kind of strengthening.
It wouldn't look very convincing, to have a civilian jetliner lying in bits on the pavement and then try to convince the public, that the tower was fatally damaged - get it?
 
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malcolm kirkman said:
The floor the plane hit, what's the matter with you, surely you could work that out.
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Might be quicker to ask which floors didn't have computers on them.

I can't believe I read this thread. That's several hours of my life I won't get back in a hurry.

I thought he was for real to start with, then I thought he had to be stringing us along because nobody could be that obtuse or present even the lamest idea so badly, now I'm veering back to the idea that nobody could fake this.

I think he's 14 or 15. Ten-year-olds have some native common sense they often seem to lose when the hormones kick in.

Say, suppose we asked Malcolm what age he is, what do you suppose our chances are of getting a truthful answer?

Rolfe.
 
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Tirdun said:
Because Japan refused to open a second front and Russia was already approaching 10 million dead in its Western battle with Germany in Operation Barbarosa. Stalin had no interest in fighting Japan, and was really only fighting Germany because Hitler was rabidly anti-communist and invaded. Had Hitler kept his eye on Western Europe, Stalin would have happily let everybody kill each other. Russia eventually did declare war, your inability to understand history seems to stretch back quite a ways.

What does this have to do with flight 175?
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You started it. Where did the japs get their wartime steel from?
 
malcolm kirkman said:
You bet,
Talking about WW2. Does that mean World War Two. Does that mean the USA, UK and Empire, France and Russia versus Germany, Italy and Japan?
If so, can you tell me how come Russia and Japan, never declared war on each other?
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You forgot to mention Poland amongst the Allies. Tobruk, Casino, Falaise Gap, they were there.

Russia and Japan did square off against each other, at the very end of the war. The canny Russians went into Manchuria mob-handed, against an IJA somewhat perturbed by Japanese cities being vapourised by science-fiction weapons.

Russia declared war, incidentally. The Japanese had learnt the hard way from Khalkin Gol that the USSR wasn't a trivial opponent and thus avoided any war-mongering when it might have made a difference (i.e. after June 22nd 1941).
 
malcolm kirkman said:
Not with the factory made job, no, of course not.
However, whilst the attack planes were in the Boeing hangar at Offutt, having the pods and the Raytheon homing electronics fitted. The wings leading edges etc, were reinforced, so that they could slice into the facade of the towers. In the same way that a couple of years ago, in Europe, a USAF fighter plane sliced through the cables on a cable car way, in the Alps. The fighter carried on, oblivious to the damage it had done. Half a dozen or so skiers, plunged to their deaths. That kind of strengthening.
It wouldn't look very convincing, to have a civilian jetliner lying in bits on the pavement and then try to convince the public, that the tower was fatally damaged - get it?
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WRONG AGAIN, it was Navy Plane! The navy plane does have strong wings due to the fact it is stored on a ship, and needs extra strength to withstand the abuse of ship operations. But that is hearsay, and needs some proof. Why are you always wrong?

But, since you can not get a simple thing like a Navy plane hitting a cable right, why are you even posting?

You have zero ability in physics. If you understood physics and a few other key things, you would see how a weak plane could smash up a strong building. But since you do not deal in facts, why bother now?
 
Rolfe said:
(This thread is moving faster than my dial-up can cope with!)
Might be quicker to ask which floors didn't have computers on them.

I can't believe I read this thread. That's several hours of my life I won't get back in a hurry.

I thought he was for real to start with, then I thought he had to be stringing us along because nobody could be that obtuse or present even the lamest idea so badly, now I'm veering back to the idea that nobody could fake this.

I think he's 14 or 15. Ten-year-olds have some native common sense they often seem to lose when the hormones kick in.

Say, suppose we asked Malcolm what age he is, what do you suppose our chances are of getting a truthful answer?

Rolfe.
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Over 50 retired businessman with an honours degree in law, loadsa dosh, only learnt the truth about 9/11 when I retired about 6 months ago. Now I listen to Alex Jones everyday and support Ron Paul to the hilt. Can't wait for the proper clean up to start. I hope it doesn't get to violence, but if it does, ce la vie.
 
malcolm kirkman said:
You started it. Where did the japs get their wartime steel from?
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dang, not only are you ignorant on what planes are made of, you also show that you're ignorant on your history.

did you forget that Japan invaded many indo-china nations in 1941? thereby taking their resources for their use? did you know that Japan and china were at war with each other (since 1939) and were taking their resources as well?

Did you know that Japan's government were also demanding that any families with steel (old samurai swords, armor, cars, heaters, stoves, etc) to be handed over for melting?
 
Rolfe said:
I think he's 14 or 15. Ten-year-olds have some native common sense they often seem to lose when the hormones kick in.

Say, suppose we asked Malcolm what age he is, what do you suppose our chances are of getting a truthful answer?
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I actually thought about asking him earlier. Truth be told, I'm honestly afraid of the answer. As much as his logic and ramblings could be mistaken for an early teenager, I'd guess that Malcolm is late-teens to early-twenties.
 
sackett said:
You're forgetting the IL-2 Shturmovik!
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No, I didn't forget it, I was just defaulting to modern-day aircraft, since that seemed more relevant. It's wasn't a conspiracy to ignore Russian aviation, I assure you. :)

malcolm kirkman said:
If so, can you tell me how come Russia and Japan, never declared war on each other?
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Gumboot has already addressed this, but let me add to it.

Japan and Russia fought a short, undeclared war in 1938 and again in 1939. In the latter year, at a place called Khalkin Gol which was near the border between Manchuria and Mongolia, Russian forces under the command of Gen. Zhukov inflicted a crushing defeat on Japanese ground forces. What the Japanese took away from this was that the Russians were fierce, tough, and skilled opponents, ones not to be tangled with if it could be avoided.

And that's exactly what the Japanese did - they actively avoided seeking any confrontation with Russia as a result of the experience they suffered in 1939.

ETA: I see now Comsat Angel has already mentioned Khalkin Gol. I'll leave my post as is to reinforce CA's point.
 
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beachnut said:
WRONG AGAIN, it was Navy Plane! The navy plane does have strong wings due to the fact it is stored on a ship, and needs extra strength to withstand the abuse of ship operations. But that is hearsay, and needs some proof. Why are you always wrong?

But, since you can not get a simple thing like a Navy plane hitting a cable right, why are you even posting?

You have zero ability in physics. If you understood physics and a few other key things, you would see how a weak plane could smash up a strong building. But since you do not deal in facts, why bother now?
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I used to walk down John Dalton St, and have a drink in the pub where James Joule used to offload his father's beer barrels in the cellar.
Who was Chief Surveyor to The City of London after the Great Fire of 1666 and what law did he come up with? I'll give you a clue, it's to do with materials getting pushed out of shape.
Time to step up to the plate, pal.
 
I cant resist

malcum sez
I'm a great believer that a bit here and a bit there, eventually adds up to something.
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"a bit of ***** here and a bit of ***** here adds up to....you guessed it...a bigger peice of *****."

"Somtimes a bit of ***** is just *****."

"A ***** in hand is better than..." ok I hope you get the point.
 
slingblade said:
This is delicious! Well, it is to me. This sort of thing is my meat and drink.

Someone please make/find a lolcat of a kitten with a big, wide, eye-closing yawn and the caption, "STILL WRONG!" I promise to get tons of use from it.
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arus did the yawn, but i decided to try my hand at some variations

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i need to find a good cat for that last one
 
Corsair 115 said:
No, I didn't forget it, I was just defaulting to modern-day aircraft, since that seemed more relevant. It's wasn't a conspiracy to ignore Russian aviation, I assure you. :)

Gumboot has already addressed this, but let me add to it.

Japan and Russia fought a short, undeclared war in 1938 and again in 1939. In the latter year, at a place called Khalkin Gol which was near the border between Manchuria and Mongolia, Russian forces under the command of Gen. Zhukov inflicted a crushing defeat on Japanese ground forces. What the Japanese took away from this was that the Russians were fierce, tough, and skilled opponents, ones not to be tangled with if it could be avoided.

And that's exactly what the Japanese did - they actively avoided seeking any confrontation with Russia as a result of the experience they suffered in 1939.
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Who promised the Japs, a once in ten thousand years opportunity for an empire and where did they get their WW2 steel from?
 
malcolm kirkman said:
Over 50 retired businessman with an honours degree in law, loadsa dosh, only learnt the truth about 9/11 when I retired about 6 months ago. Now I listen to Alex Jones everyday and support Ron Paul to the hilt. Can't wait for the proper clean up to start. I hope it doesn't get to violence, but if it does, ce la vie.
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In over 50 years on this planet, with time spent as a businessman and in law school, poor Malcolm has never learned the correct way to type the extremely common phrase, "c'est la vie".
 
Comsat Angel, Gumboot, Arkan, Beachnut -- all you poophead guys can just shut up. Me and Malcolm know what's what.

He can buy all the neat stuff, too. Loadsa dosh, know'd I mean? Malcolm's got all the latest comics and he lets me read 'em! They DID NOT declare war!

And I am Genghis Khan XXXXVII, and I am coming to reclaim my throne. I am 22 years old, dangerously handsome, and richer than a pound of butter. I could buy all of you. As George Bush says of Cheney, "C'est le veep."
 
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