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[Moderated]175 did NOT hit the South tower.

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When you grow up and ditch the dickie bow, somebody will tell you the meaning of words such as 'secret' and 'classified'. You see, it's not always a clever thing to broadcast what your armour is. Some nasty person might work out a way to get through it. There be a few more nasties like that to learn, especially when you learn about politicians and banksters.

By your logic, I can prove that Leprechauns, Superman, and Martians exist. If I assume that we don't know about them because someone is keeping them secret, and thus I conclude that they exist.

Do you see anything wrong with that?
 
By your logic, I can prove that Leprechauns, Superman, and Martians exist. If I assume that we don't know about them because someone is keeping them secret, and thus I conclude that they exist.

Do you see anything wrong with that?

Not if you don't.
 
What, all of them?


Yep, and I've presented just as much evidence as you have to prove my theory.


No,
It was an ex military bad boy, with a pod and a missile and a homing device, to lock onto the beacon, on the computer floor.
See how everything fits, when you read things slowly.


Someone who can't tell the difference between a comma and a full stop is lecturing others on grammar? Wow.
 
Armoured aircraft... the only aircraft that was armoured to any significant extent that I can recall offhand would be the A-10 Thunderbolt II, more commonly known as the Warthog. But given it was intended for low-level strafing runs against Soviet tanks, having it be heavily armoured was a natural design choice.

You're forgetting the IL-2 Shturmovik! The whole fusilage forward of the rear gunner's position (roughly at the trailing edge of the wing) was 12 mm armor! This structure was called "the bathtub," and it was so massive the designers could dispense with frame members. The engine was mounted directly to it. Both sides called the good old IL-2 the Flying Tank. Buzzzaaow! Ratta tat tat! Hitler, count your children! Voooom!

What's that? We're not talking about WW Two? Aw jeeze! Yer no fun. 'M gonna go over to Malcolm's house and play. =HE= knows how to make stuff up!
 
Yep, and I've presented just as much evidence as you have to prove my theory.





Someone who can't tell the difference between a comma and a full stop is lecturing others on grammar? Wow.

No, is not a sentence, hence the comma.
You can help by explaining to me what a verb transitive is, if you like.
 
This is delicious! Well, it is to me. This sort of thing is my meat and drink.

Someone please make/find a lolcat of a kitten with a big, wide, eye-closing yawn and the caption, "STILL WRONG!" I promise to get tons of use from it.
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You're forgetting the IL-2 Shturmovik! The whole fusilage forward of the rear gunner's position (roughly at the trailing edge of the wing) was 12 mm armor! This structure was called "the bathtub," and it was so massive the designers could dispense with frame members. The engine was mounted directly to it. Both sides called the good old IL-2 the Flying Tank. Buzzzaaow! Ratta tat tat! Hitler, count your children! Voooom!

What's that? We're not talking about WW Two? Aw jeeze! Yer no fun. 'M gonna go over to Malcolm's house and play. =HE= knows how to make stuff up!

You bet,
Talking about WW2. Does that mean World War Two. Does that mean the USA, UK and Empire, France and Russia versus Germany, Italy and Japan?
If so, can you tell me how come Russia and Japan, never declared war on each other?
 
I know this was only mentioned quite some time ago, but before I cease exchanging with this individual, I thought I'd point out that neither "Northern Vigilance" nor "Vigilant Warrior" are or were military exercises, on 9/11 or any other day.

-Gumboot
 
You mean like this?
1999, Norad starts exercises in which hijacked planes are crashed into WTC and the Pentagon (USA Today).

Wow. More empty claims.

I'll gladly start taking orders from you, just as soon as you stop using 'and' next to a comma and stop starting a sentence with 'And', never mind a paragraph.
You know how hard it can be, taking orders from someone, who is clearly not as well educated as yourself.

Maybe you should stop patronizing others when it comes to grammar when you show how bad you really are at it in the next sentence.

It was an ex military bad boy, with a pod and a missile and a homing device, to lock onto the beacon, on the computer floor.
See how everything fits, when you read things slowly.

That is "fits" is irrelevant. It has to be TRUE.

That is correct, you'll make a philosopher yet.

I prefer scientists. They tend to spew less nonsense and more facts.

A miltary 757/767 is made out of different materials thana civilian 757/767.
There is not much call for armour plating, when you are ferrying civilians about.

I suppose they have different engines, too, to account for the added weight. So what's left of the original 757/767, then ?

moslem hijacker

Not only grammar and punctuation, but spelling as well.

And paragraphs.

It's Occum's razor on steroids.
There are so many things that can potentially go wrong.

That's not what Occam's Razor says. Please learn something.
 
"If so, can you tell me how come Russia and Japan, never declared war on each other?"


I, too, can sometimes tell you how not to use a comma.

Still waiting on that bit about Rumsfeld.
 
Has anyone mentioned to Malc that there's no actual cash prize for The Stundies (tm)? I'd hate to see him put all this effort in under a misapprehention.
 
When you grow up and ditch the dickie bow, somebody will tell you the meaning of words such as 'secret' and 'classified'. You see, it's not always a clever thing to broadcast what your armour is. Some nasty person might work out a way to get through it. There be a few more nasties like that to learn, especially when you learn about politicians and banksters.

Gee, that sounds remarkably like an argument from ignorance.

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Do you see anything wrong with that?

Not if you don't.

I see you're just trolling, now.

Don't you see a problem with claiming something exists BECAUSE there is no evidence of it ?

If so, can you tell me how come Russia and Japan, never declared war on each other?

Because the Emperor was a doof. Things might have gone differently if he had attacked Russia instead.

No, is not a sentence, hence the comma.

No commas were necessary at those points in the sentence. Is English your first language ? It isn't mine, and it's clear I have a far better grasp at it than you do.
 
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You bet,
Talking about WW2. Does that mean World War Two. Does that mean the USA, UK and Empire, France and Russia versus Germany, Italy and Japan?
If so, can you tell me how come Russia and Japan, never declared war on each other?


The USSR declared war on Japan on August 8, 1945, and invaded Manchuria with over 1.5 million men the same day.

-Gumboot
 
Ilyushin Il-2 Shturmovik
. . . TsKB-55 was a two-seat aircraft with an armoured shell weighing 700 kg (1,540 lb), protecting crew, engine, radiators, and the fuel tank. Standing empty, the Ilyushin weighed more than 4,500 kg (almost 10,000 lb), making the armoured shell about 15% of the aircraft's gross weight. The prototype, which first flew on 30 December 1939, won the government competition against Sukhoi Su-6 and received VVS designation BSh-2. However, BSh-2 was eventually rejected in favor of a lighter single-seat design, the TsKB-57, which first flew 12 October 1940. The original Mikulin AM-35 1,370 hp (1,022 kW) engine proved too weak and was replaced by the 1,680 hp (1,254 kW) Mikulin AM-38 before the aircraft entered production.
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Well, if Malcom was a debunker he'd certainly win a Belzie.

Malcom Kirkman: The Bottomless Abyss of Grammar Award.

Of course, he's not really a debunker as much as a preacher.
 
There is nothing improbable or impossible about a plane being navigated to NYC, it happens all the time.
Good, it seems we have the navigation issue put to rest at last.

But... then you follow up with this:

You can't be sure of the hand held GPS. You can't even be sure you'll get it on board.
And we're back to navigation issues again.

Why do you think you need GPS to navigate? Aircraft have been navigated for decades without it, and still can be.

The first thing you've gotta do, is turn this baby around and head what? Will it be 45 east or 55 or what?
Will that be from magnetic north or true north or what? While you're working out how to turn this sucker around, tell me what your heading will be, when we've turned?
See above.

Navigation is not some sort of super-complicated, experts-only problem. Anyone can do it, with a little training and familiarity with the systems involved. Heck, Microsoft's Flight Simulator program, or any other computer flight sim, can teach you the basics of aircraft navigation. Such programs can give you the basic knowledge of dead reckoning, VOR, DME, and so forth. It's not that hard to pick up.

Have you done any reading at all on how aircraft navigate and what their navigation systems are?
 
You bet,
Talking about WW2. Does that mean World War Two. Does that mean the USA, UK and Empire, France and Russia versus Germany, Italy and Japan?
If so, can you tell me how come Russia and Japan, never declared war on each other?

Bah, dupe. Gumboot already answered this.
 
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