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[Moderated]175 did NOT hit the South tower.

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Arus808 said:
malcom, please keep it to one topic; cheney and rummsfeld have nothing to do with your claim that flight 175 did not hit the south tower.

you need to stay on point; and i hope that everyone else keeps to that as well. He seems to want ot change his story as the thread goes on; treat him like Christophera; nail him on ONE thing only.
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Why do you say Rumsfeld has nothing to do with it? He not only predicted the hit that morning, but also predicted the hit on the Pentagon moments before that happened as well. Will you take my word for that, or do I have to dig out the newspaper references?
 
malcolm kirkman said:
Why do you say Rumsfeld has nothing to do with it? He not only predicted the hit that morning, but also predicted the hit on the Pentagon moments before that happened as well. Will you take my word for that, or do I have to dig out the newspaper references?
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you should be prepared to have to prove, through evidence, any accusation or potential "fact" that is in dispute. I know this is a novel approach for you, but it is the way we like things done over here.

TAM:)
 
malcolm kirkman said:
This won't do, you must not confuse facts with conjecture.
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I agree. In order to guarantee that no facts are confused with conjecture, we should leave all facts out of this discussion and state only conjecture.

Which, of course, is what you've been doing all along. I respect that, and I've been doing my best to follow suit in my responses.

And you're wrong about the explosives in the towers. The collapses were triggered by 100-ton iron deadweights (non-explosive bombs) dropped from high-altitude Zeppelins and laser-guided to impact the buildings' cores. The deadweights had thermite cores with delayed fuses to melt them down and destroy the evidence after the collapses. That explains the lack of detonation sounds (no explosions), the molten metal, the subterranean hot spots, the thermite residue, the lack of explosive damage or residue, the lack of witnesses of anyone planting explosives, the collapse of WTC7 even though it was not hit by a plane, the willingness of that rocker feller (you mean Bono, don't you?) to sign off on the plan (if the planes missed the towers, the bombs could be aborted or used on different buildings, with none of the risk of discovery that planted explosives have).

I just imagined asking Bono whose plan was better, your planted demolition charges or my Zeppelins, and he said mine had much lower risk, and that you should take your orders from me from now on.

Respectfully,
Myriad
 
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T.A.M. said:
Staying on topic for any longer than 2-3 posts would violate Section V subsection (i) of the truther code, which states...



TAM:)
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That's section V, subsection (ii), can you not get anything right?
 
malcolm kirkman said:
Why do you say Rumsfeld has nothing to do with it? He not only predicted the hit that morning, but also predicted the hit on the Pentagon moments before that happened as well. Will you take my word for that, or do I have to dig out the newspaper references?
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sorry, but where in this reply was any evidence to back your claims that flight 175 did not hit the south tower.


I dont care about the pentagon, rummie, cheney or the like. Your topic IS about flight 175
 
malcolm kirkman said:
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Then you look at why everybody else can't see it and you realise .....
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No, there is a reason why you feel that way. Think about it.

You may think you're special, and in a way you are, but not really in the way that you imagine.

Ask yourself this question out loud: "Why can I see it when everyone else doesn't?"

Then think about the answer.

I don't expect you will, but I just thought I'd mention it in case you'd be willing to give it a try.

It's you against the world, Malcolm.
And the world is not as crazy as you think.
 
T.A.M. said:
you should be prepared to have to prove, through evidence, any accusation or potential "fact" that is in dispute. I know this is a novel approach for you, but it is the way we like things done over here.

TAM:)
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You mean like this?
1999, Norad starts exercises in which hijacked planes are crashed into WTC and the Pentagon (USA Today).
2001 April, as above, pentagon only (Boston Globe).
2001 August, Raytheon and USAF successfully land pilotless 727 using ground controlled GPS (Der Spiegel).
2001 Sept, 25,000 British troops assemble in Oman (Daily Telegraph)
2001 Sept 4th, Israeli owned shipping firm quits WTC (Virginia Pilot, Real Estate Weekly)
2001 early Sept, Bomb sniffing dogs removed from WTC (Newsday).
2001 Sept 5th, US pulls plug on moslem websites (Guardian UK).
2001 Sept 7th, Jeb Bush puts Florida National Guard on alert (My Florida.com).
2001 Sept 10th, FEMA deployed to NYC (CBS Video).
2001 Sept 10th, the mayor of Frisco told not to fly (SF Chronicle).
2001 Sept 10th, a rookie is given command of the National Military Command Centre inside the Pentagon, for the following day. (9/11 Commission).
2001 Sept 11th, Fort Belvoir is placed on terrorist attack exercise (Connection newspapers).
2001 Sept 11th, Fort Myer is on airport emergency ops (DC Military).
There are more, I mention just those two because of their proximity to the crime scene. Andrews is a chapter unto itself.
D - 2hrs, Odigo employees in Israel receive warnings of attacks. (Common knowledge).
D - two minutes, Rumsfelt predicts terrorist attack in US (Fayetteville Observer).
Realise that he knew that thousands of innocent civilians were, at that precise moment in time, innocently going about their daily jobs inside a primed and ready to explode giant bomb. All he can think about is his own persona.
Rumsfelt later predicts the Pentagon attack minutes before it happened (Daily Telegraph).
The White House staff were given Cipro, one month prior to the anthrax attack that killed some and just missed senator Leahy. (Washington Post).
 
malcolm kirkman said:
You mean like this?
1999, Norad starts exercises in which hijacked planes are crashed into WTC and the Pentagon (USA Today).
2001 April, as above, pentagon only (Boston Globe).
2001 August, Raytheon and USAF successfully land pilotless 727 using ground controlled GPS (Der Spiegel).
2001 Sept, 25,000 British troops assemble in Oman (Daily Telegraph)
2001 Sept 4th, Israeli owned shipping firm quits WTC (Virginia Pilot, Real Estate Weekly)
2001 early Sept, Bomb sniffing dogs removed from WTC (Newsday).
2001 Sept 5th, US pulls plug on moslem websites (Guardian UK).
2001 Sept 7th, Jeb Bush puts Florida National Guard on alert (My Florida.com).
2001 Sept 10th, FEMA deployed to NYC (CBS Video).
2001 Sept 10th, the mayor of Frisco told not to fly (SF Chronicle).
2001 Sept 10th, a rookie is given command of the National Military Command Centre inside the Pentagon, for the following day. (9/11 Commission).
2001 Sept 11th, Fort Belvoir is placed on terrorist attack exercise (Connection newspapers).
2001 Sept 11th, Fort Myer is on airport emergency ops (DC Military).
There are more, I mention just those two because of their proximity to the crime scene. Andrews is a chapter unto itself.
D - 2hrs, Odigo employees in Israel receive warnings of attacks. (Common knowledge).
D - two minutes, Rumsfelt predicts terrorist attack in US (Fayetteville Observer).
Realise that he knew that thousands of innocent civilians were, at that precise moment in time, innocently going about their daily jobs inside a primed and ready to explode giant bomb. All he can think about is his own persona.
Rumsfelt later predicts the Pentagon attack minutes before it happened (Daily Telegraph).
The White House staff were given Cipro, one month prior to the anthrax attack that killed some and just missed senator Leahy. (Washington Post).
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Every single one of your 'facts' have been proven either wrong, as simple conjecture, as irrelevant, or out-and-out lies a thousand times in this forum. Only a fool would believe them.

Perhaps real links to real articles would be helpful, but good luck regardless. Your scatter-gun hyperbole technique is noted.

The sad thing is that even after every single one of your little points would be explained as basically crap, you would still find a dozen other 'smoking guns' and continue on your merry woo way.

Good luck with that.
 
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