Jesus created Sex

fuelair said:
Good grief, it all makes sense now!! DJ is a reincarnated ancient Babbleonanist!!:rolleyes: :jaw-dropp
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Duscuss the message not the messenger. Those are the rules. I am not allowed to say anything more.

Calling me names is not discussing the message.

A claim is not slandering someone's name.

This thread is about Jesus and Sex
 
I think I viddy. Jesus created S&M.

I read all about the like scourging and the crowning with thorns and all that, and I can viddy myself helping in and even taking charge of the tolchocking and the nailing in, being dressed in the height of Roman fashion. I can slooshy the screams and moans very realistic. Real horrorshow. Better than the old in-and-out.

Alex
 
calebprime said:
I think I viddy. Jesus created S&M.

I read all about the like scourging and the crowning with thorns and all that, and I can viddy myself helping in and even taking charge of the tolchocking and the nailing in, being dressed in the height of Roman fashion. I can slooshy the screams and moans very realistic. Real horrorshow. Better than the old in-and-out.

Alex
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Pain and suffering is hardly enjoyable, especially when imposed on others. NO Jesus didn't create S & M, that is a choice of some, and sometimes forced on others.
 
Kochanski said:
DJJ, you have not said anything worth discussing. You spew endless amounts of scripture that prove absolutely nothing but your ability to copy and paste. You have not supported your assertion in any way.

You are just trolling. As such, let the games begin...
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K, yes you are trolling in my opinion, as you never say anything and never claim anything, and yet always complain when I do.

Try... this and SEE Masturbation and Sin, as learning and studying and doing can liberate....... in mind and body. It's so much better than complaining

Masturbation and Good Health




[SIZE=-1]Not only is it physically healthy but As one Christian said:"Isn't it incredible that one of God's most beautiful gifts,masturbation, is held in such contempt by those who wear their religion on their arm. No one has ever become pregnant, impregnated someone, become diseased, or been physically harmed because of the act. I'd like to meet the person who has passed puberty without ever doing it."

You still have not gone insane. You have not gone blind. You have not grown hair on your palms. You are a completely competent member of society - despite all the times you've done it. Kinsey and the latest Sex in America report show there's a whole lot of shaking going on. Today's sex researchers have come to grips with the fact that masturbation has important physical and emotional benefits for both men and women.


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Davidjayjordan said:
Pain and suffering is hardly enjoyable, especially when imposed on others.
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That's just an assertion. Different people find different things enjoyable. A lot of people like the physical effects of hard exercise, for instance, which if you look at it objectively involves pain and suffering.
 
Davidjayjordan said:
K, yes you are trolling in my opinion, as you never say anything and never claim anything, and yet always complain when I do.

Try... this and SEE Masturbation and Sin, as learning and studying and doing can liberate....... in mind and body. It's so much better than complaining
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Reposting other people's stuff is NOT saying anything, it is trolling. I say plenty of things, you just don't listen.

When you make a claim and provide adequate support, then I will feel compelled to reply. Thus far you have not done so on any of your threads.

So troll on DJJ. Me, I like living in the sunshine instead of under bridges.
 
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I don't understand the point of this thread. We are not christians here-we know masterbation and sex is healthy, we don't believe it's a sin. And we don't believe in the christian bible...so, why did you bring up this subject, djj? Why do you feel like we need this topic drilled into our brains?

We don't believe in Christ(as the son of god)-we don't care that you think he created sex. Are you trying to get us to become christians by telling us that sex is okay by jesus? I don't think anyone on this forum has any type of guilty issues with sex (that it is sinning if we do it any other way other than with our wives/husbands). So... why not send this arguement to a christian forum...where most likely they believe in the original sin.
 
Davidjayjordan said:
Duscuss the message not the messenger. Those are the rules. I am not allowed to say anything more.

Calling me names is not discussing the message.

A claim is not slandering someone's name.

This thread is about Jesus and Sex
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Oh dear, please read carefully, I did not call you a name, I said I realised you were a reincarnated etc. That is an implication not a name. And besed on your "messages" here, I believe it to be exactly descriptive of your suggested stance and the validity of your message - and editorial comment, if you will.
Also, although I disagree with the placement of your threads in religion, this isn't CT forum - which I have pretty much dropped until we can speak mostly honestly again there.
 
Davidjayjordan said:
K, yes you are trolling in my opinion, as you never say anything and never claim anything, and yet always complain when I do.

Try... this and SEE Masturbation and Sin, as learning and studying and doing can liberate....... in mind and body. It's so much better than complaining

Masturbation and Good Health




[SIZE=-1]Not only is it physically healthy but As one Christian said:"Isn't it incredible that one of God's most beautiful gifts,masturbation, is held in such contempt by those who wear their religion on their arm. No one has ever become pregnant, impregnated someone, become diseased, or been physically harmed because of the act. I'd like to meet the person who has passed puberty without ever doing it."

You still have not gone insane. You have not gone blind. You have not grown hair on your palms. You are a completely competent member of society - despite all the times you've done it. Kinsey and the latest Sex in America report show there's a whole lot of shaking going on. Today's sex researchers have come to grips with the fact that masturbation has important physical and emotional benefits for both men and women.

"Masturbation is a normal, natural activity throughout life," says Robert Pollack, a psychology professor at the University of Georgia. It may even contribute to mental health and not doing it may lead to psychosexual problems.

For men, masturbation or regular sex is good for the prostate and can prevent painful prostate blockage. For women it can help reduce cramping and for both men and women has been shown to have a healthy effect on the immune systems as well as reducing overall tension and helping emotions.

Besides being healthy for the body, a private grope can help both a man and a woman better understand their own sexuality. If you can learn to lie back and enjoy it and really pay attention to the pleasure it gives your body - no one knows better than you what gives you maximum pleasure - you can share that knowledge with a partner and have more mutually fulfilling sexual pleasure sharing. The self-awareness gained from masturbation makes it a central feature of many sex therapy programs.

Notice when you are standing where your hand falls if you hang it in front of you. Apes do it, dogs and cats do it, elephants do it and even porcupines have been observed doing it, probably very carefully. One reason we may be so programmed, paradoxically, is to increase our odds of producing offspring. Older sperm can lose their ability to swim well. A good masturbatory flush guarantees fresh, robust sperm for mating.

Storing seminal fluids for long periods can also cause prostate congestion, which in turn can lead to urinary and ejaculatory pain. Regular ejaculations, either through masturbation or intercourse, can help ward off this condition, also called nonspecific prostatitis and , for obvious reasons, "sailor's disease" and "priest's disease."

Another reason why nature designed us to masturbate is to strengthen PC muscles, much like "Kegel" exercises. This is especially true in females where strong PC muscles are practically the sole factor in whether labor is easy and fast or long and difficult. Females masturbating regularly with multiple orgasms would develop strong PC muscles and should have easier labor.

Masturbation is also an ever-renewable health resource. In fact, the people who start the earliest and do it the most often are the ones who do it longest into old age. So, as with all sexual activity, it's "use it or lose it."

Another potential concern is reliance on masturbation for sexual pleasure to the exclusion of intimacy with another person. But in such cases, masturbation is probably a symptom, not a cause, of larger psychological barriers to intimacy. Most people want relationships. But if you're scared of them, you might stick with masturbation exclusively.

"Sexual release is just as important as any kind of emotional release. Saying that you shouldn't masturbate is like saying that you shouldn't cry when you're upset or hurt, or that you should hold in anger and other emotions. I see no difference between sexual release and emotional release. Not releasing will only result in stress and health problems. And I know that I need no more stress in my life. I figure, if something helps a person relieve stress, clear their mind, and make them feel better (that doesn't hurt others, mind you), then more power to them."


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Thank you for verifying mine above, you babble and you have faith in masturbation . Babbleonanist truly fits, I could not make this stuff up!. But I do notice and comment on it.
 
Paulhoff said:
http://www.libchrist.com/sexed/masturbation.html

Magical thinking begets, magical thinking begets, magical thi.....

Make up any rules you what for your so-called god, whatever works for you doesn't mean it works for us...........

Paul

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Paul, Paul, Paul

Your body is the same as my body, humans are the same physilogically.

I hate to be the first one to tell you this. But we are brethren in the flesh.

Your mind can disconnect your body through bad thinking but our bodies were created the same, unless you have a disease or dysfunction..

SEE Masturbation is a sin Thread... as it isn't and the only way to get liberated is realise that man made laws make us restricted unable to *****.
 
strathmeyer said:
Children of God; that's where I've seen this phenomena before.
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Actually it came from Dave from Phoenix and he has had nothing dto do with them, as any one that is a true skeptic can find out that man's repressive restrictive laws have basically come from a repressive devoid anti Christ church system.

So don;t blame the source or try to denounce the source, but discuss the topic.

Much the same idea of discuss the message not the messenger. think darn ya think.

Liberation comes from true thinking.
 
Terry said:
That's just an assertion. Different people find different things enjoyable. A lot of people like the physical effects of hard exercise, for instance, which if you look at it objectively involves pain and suffering.
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Pain and suffering for yourself is one thing if you choose it, but putting it on others is another, when it is against their will.

Jesus did not create S & M, that's a degrogatory statement against Jesus...unless the person who claimed such a statement can expound on it in depth and detail with proofs and experiences.

Otherwise they should keep such an accussation to themselves...... but do place it on a new thread, not on this one as it is devoid in my opinion.
 
Davidjayjordan said:
Jesus did not create S & M, that's a degrogatory statement against Jesus...unless the person who claimed such a statement can expound on it in depth and detail with proofs and experiences.
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Huh? How is it a derogatory statement only if the person has both proof and experiences? What's derogatory about saying that somebody created S&M? Who said this about Jesus? You're the one arguing that Jesus created sex. Which forms of sex did he create, then?

Are you confused because you think you have to answer all of my questions? Should I stick to one question per post and break it up over many posts?
 
Davidjayjordan said:
Pain and suffering for yourself is one thing if you choose it, but putting it on others is another, when it is against their will.

Jesus did not create S & M, that's a degrogatory statement against Jesus...unless the person who claimed such a statement can expound on it in depth and detail with proofs and experiences.

Otherwise they should keep such an accussation to themselves...... but do place it on a new thread, not on this one as it is devoid in my opinion.
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Nobody can be functionally derogatory against Jesus - "he" is an imaginary thing, a creation of sick need for "something greater", a ghost of an idea, unreal no matter how many choose to or are forced to believe in "him". On the other hand, if there were a dog , and given what his believers seem to think he does, he certainly would be a candidate for the invention and pure refinement of S without the M(since the M would enjoy the S thus negating its' value as punishment).
 
Davidjayjordan said:
Jesus did not create S & M, that's a degrogatory statement against Jesus...unless the person who claimed such a statement can expound on it in depth and detail with proofs and experiences.

Otherwise they should keep such an accussation to themselves...... but do place it on a new thread, not on this one as it is devoid in my opinion.
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Sigh. I believe in facing things head-on. My post was basically irrelevant, if we are having a logical argument with, like, assertions and 8.

Since I find the manner and substance of the statement "Jesus created sex" absolutely ridiculous, I don't believe it deserves a straightforward reply.

The "statement" was only partly mine. Mostly, it was lifted from the screenplay of A Clockwork Orange, with some reference to the book, as well. I'm not smart enough to make it up.

Since I'm using a persona, you can call me dodgy.

However, there was something serious behind the humor.

Those with imaginations can put themselves in the role of the Romans, or the role of Christ.

"Alex" is a psychopath (or whatever you choose to call someone who delights in tormenting others) who could only understand Christ's suffering on the cross as something like a movie where the old vinny flows freely, and he gets to do the torturing.

There is some eroticism in the art depicting images of Christ on the cross.
I'll do some research, if you like, and come up with good examples. I'm not qualified to speak about art history.

Madonna has been involved in controversy, apparently, by toying with such an idea.

Mel Gibson made a very popular, extraordinarily violent film (I haven't seen it) which glories in the old horrorshow. (horrorshow is bastardized Russian, meaning "good".) Mark Morris gave it the two-word review: "Steak tartar."

People in the Phillipines apparently have these weird gatherings where they get crucified for a while. I can only assume they enjoy it.

I'm not a masochist--except on this forum--but I do subscribe to the view that pain and pleasure are not really opposites--except in some trivial sense.

As others here have pointed out, people choose to have all kinds of weird "peak experiences"--to quote Maslow--that involve pain of a sort. And lots of endorphins. Mmmm....endorphins....

As usual, my thinking may have been so clotted that the old humor was not flowing freely. My bad.

My (serious) position is that Jesus was and is very hard to nail down, once you scrape away the accretion of later writers, myth, etc. He may or may not have existed. I lean toward the view that he existed, and we simply can't know that much about him. Albert Schweitzer was of the opinion--and I'm just pulling this up from memory--that the only thing you could be relatively sure of was that he preached the coming of the end of the world, and it wasn't pretty at all. Not a nice, sexy Jesus.

I yam qualified to speak to your statements about ratios, music and planets, and I think they are too preposterous--to the extent they mean anything at all--to be argued with.

Hope this clears up any confusion you might have about my post.

caleb
 
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