Canada Seal Slaughter begins

Is Dustin defending a woman, who was invited to a backyard BBQ, being upset and causing disruption about meat being cooked?! Of course he would, he's probably one of those people that would do the same thing.
 
Dustin Kesselberg said:
Under what circumstances would you start shouting at people if you saw them doing something you considered wrong?
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Assuming they're not a distance away where it requires shouting for them to hear me then most situations aren't improved with shouting at people, certainly not situations where you trying to change someones beliefs.
 
Mid said:
Assuming they're not a distance away where it requires shouting for them to hear me then most situations aren't improved with shouting at people, certainly not situations where you trying to change someones beliefs.
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I find that getting aggressive and loud with people tells them that you're serious and makes them take you seriously. If you calmly try to explain how someone who is doing something wrong is wrong then they aren't as likely to take you seriously because they figure that if you're not angry then it's not that big of a deal. This is how police officers deal with criminals often.
 
Dustin Kesselberg said:
I find that getting aggressive and loud with people tells them that you're serious and makes them take you seriously.
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Yeah...Not so much. You may think that, but in reality "getting aggressive and loud" just makes you come across as arrogant, obnoxious, and a little crazy. See: Bill O'Reilly.
 
Dustin Kesselberg said:
I find that getting aggressive and loud with people tells them that you're serious and makes them take you seriously. If you calmly try to explain how someone who is doing something wrong is wrong then they aren't as likely to take you seriously because they figure that if you're not angry then it's not that big of a deal. This is how police officers deal with criminals often.
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Dustin, do you disagree with people just to disagree with them, or do you really believe half the spit you say?
 
Cleon said:
Yeah...Not so much. You may think that, but in reality "getting aggressive and loud" just makes you come across as arrogant, obnoxious, and a little crazy. See: Bill O'Reilly.
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Bill O'Reilly gets his points across. He may be wrong most of the time, but he does get his points across.
 
Dr. Lao said:
"If meat is murder, are eggs rape?"


Chris Buckley
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Rape? o_O

Where do you get the "rape" analogy?

I can see someone claiming that it's like "abortion" if they wanted to be silly and/or seem stupid, but rape? (And it's not abortion either, as the eggs are unfertilized; it's more like chicken menstruation).
 
It was a joke! I can tell it was a joke because a humorless prat like you couldn't figure it out.

jeeeeeeeeez
 
Dr. Lao said:
It was a joke!
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I got that it was a joke. But I don't get the analogy. For a joke to be funny, it has to make sense. Otherwise, "Blix pringles are splurgy!" would be a hilarious joke.

I can tell it was a joke because a humorless prat like you couldn't figure it out.
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How mature.

jeeeeeeeeez
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Indeed. I considered your post to be over-reactionary as well.
 
Cleon said:
If it makes you feel better, I'm sure most people here already hold you in as high esteem as they hold O'Reilly.
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You critique me for asserting that getting loud and aggressive can benefit one in a debate, then turn and insult me? Do you find that insulting people generally doesn't make you come across as arrogant, obnoxious, and a little crazy?
 
Dr. Lao said:
It was a joke! I can tell it was a joke because a humorless prat like you couldn't figure it out.

jeeeeeeeeez
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It didn't make any sense. How was it a joke? Do you frequently pass something off as a joke after it's established that it makes no sense?
 
Dustin Kesselberg said:
This is a form of sarcasm. People on this forum don't hold O'Reilly at high esteem and you're implying that they don't hold me at high esteem either. This may be true but it's an insult regardless.
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If it's factually accurate, it's not sarcasm. If I say people don't hold you in high esteem, it's not an insult. It's an observation.

But as I said--continue being loud and aggressive. You're getting your point across!
 
Cleon said:
If it's factually accurate, it's not sarcasm.
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No. You said "as high esteem as O'Reilly". People on this forum generally don't old O'Reilly at high esteem. Which makes it sarcasm.

Cleon said:
If I say people don't hold you in high esteem, it's not an insult. It's an observation.
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Even if it's a fact, It's still an insult. By definition..

Insult-to treat or speak to insolently or with contemptuous rudeness; affront.
Insolent-boldly rude or disrespectful; contemptuously impertinent; insulting: an insolent reply.
Rude-discourteous or impolite, esp. in a deliberate way: a rude reply.
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If I called you an "ugly Jew" it would be an insult. You might be ugly and you might be Jewish. However it's an insult regardless of it's factual accuracy. Get it?

Cleon said:
But as I said--continue being loud and aggressive. You're getting your point across!
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This is more sarcasm. You chastise me for being "loud and aggressive"(though I don't see how I can even be loud in an internet forum) yet you continue to insult me? Do you think you'll get your point across insulting people?
 
Dustin Kesselberg said:
No. You said "as high esteem as O'Reilly". People on this forum generally don't old O'Reilly at high esteem. Which makes it sarcasm.
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However you like to interpret reality*.

This is more sarcasm. You chastise me for being "loud and aggressive"
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Whoa there, hoss. I did no such thing. You were the one who said this:

I find that getting aggressive and loud with people tells them that you're serious and makes them take you seriously.
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I pointed out that this is not the case, that Bill O'Reilly shows that being "loud and aggressive" usually makes you come across as arrogant, obnoxious, and a little crazy.

Instead of debating the point, you stuck up for O'Reilly, saying "he does get his points across."

If you don't like the comparison, perhaps you should have differentiated how your brand of "loud and aggressive" is different than O'Reilly's, rather than endorsing his methods.



* That was sarcasm.
 
Cleon said:
However you like to interpret reality*.
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If what you said isn't sarcasm then you genuinely believe people on this forum hold O'Reilly at high esteem? That's what it would mean.


Cleon said:
Whoa there, hoss. I did no such thing. You were the one who said this:
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That wasn't the sarcasm. This was...

Cleon said:
But as I said--continue being loud and aggressive. You're getting your point across!
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The "You're getting your point across" is sarcasm since based on your previous posts you clearly don't believe being aggressive will get ones point across. If it isn't sarcasm then you've changed your stance and now agree with me?


Cleon said:
I pointed out that this is not the case, that Bill O'Reilly shows that being "loud and aggressive" usually makes you come across as arrogant, obnoxious, and a little crazy.
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I disagreed. I believe O'Reilly comes off as arrogant, obnoxious and crazy for different reasons, notably his nonsensical stances.

Cleon said:
Instead of debating the point, you stuck up for O'Reilly, saying "he does get his points across."
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That was the point.

Cleon said:
If you don't like the comparison, perhaps you should have differentiated how your brand of "loud and aggressive" is different than O'Reilly's, rather than endorsing his methods.
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  1. We're not talking about my liking or disliking the comparison. We're talking about how it was sarcasm.
  2. You don't have to compare me to O'Reilly because I used him as an example.
 
Look, Dustin, you obviously don't like the fact that you had your own words thrown back at you.


Tough.
 
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