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Buzz lightyear and the JREF Challenge

Belz... said:
Egyptians built it.

It's a tomb.

Next question please.
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Some deep thought and research has gone into those answers, Belz.
Scholors have pondered those questions for decades needlessly, they should have consulted you.

Do you know much about funerary texts or was this a wilkapedia revelation?
 
Buzz, you have me now - I'm a believer! (you are free to come and share the wisdom at that other site you came and said hi at.)

Fancy these wankers not realising that the pyramids are no more than gateways to the underworld. Of course they're bloody tombs! You have to be dead before you can enter the underworld. DUH!!

No worries mate, but at least you and I understand.

One thing has been bugging me though...

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That's what New Zealand looks like.

From the earliest European contact, Maori legend has been unchanged. The country was fished up from the ocean by Maui. The fish, his canoe and the anchor of his canoe are the three parts of New Zealand. Maori had no means of navigation or mapping and therefore could not possibly know what shape New Zealand was.

Let's turn that on its head a little:

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Yes, the picture has been touched up, but erosion had already changed the shape of the fish, canoe and anchor, so I'm just returning them to their natural state.

Maori could not have known that the shape of the country actually mirrored their beliefs. Therefore, the story of Maui must be true.

That fits in perfectly with your theories on Australia. Being a hotter country, reptiles and dragons are the likely life forms, while ocean-bound NZ is most likely a fish.

Does this fit in with own evidence?
 
Little 10 Toes said:
I've seen the show...
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Do you remember the episode where they do short clips of felonies/misdemeanors/crimes and label them names of NBA players, instead of the name of the crime?

Examples: A guy gets stabbed. "Paul Pierce."

Two guys get caught in their vehicle blasting a doobie. "Damon Stoudamire/Rasheed Wallace."

A guy (allegedly) rapes a woman. "Kobe."



Has anyone seen this? (Still setting up the joke.) ;)
 
The Atheist said:
Buzz, you have me now - I'm a believer! (you are free to come and share the wisdom at that other site you came and said hi at.)

Fancy these wankers not realising that the pyramids are no more than gateways to the underworld. Of course they're bloody tombs! You have to be dead before you can enter the underworld. DUH!!

No worries mate, but at least you and I understand.

One thing has been bugging me though...

http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s97/TheAtheist/new-zealand-map.jpg

That's what New Zealand looks like.

From the earliest European contact, Maori legend has been unchanged. The country was fished up from the ocean by Maui. The fish, his canoe and the anchor of his canoe are the three parts of New Zealand. Maori had no means of navigation or mapping and therefore could not possibly know what shape New Zealand was.

Let's turn that on its head a little:

http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s97/TheAtheist/new-zealand-mapb-1.jpg

Yes, the picture has been touched up, but erosion had already changed the shape of the fish, canoe and anchor, so I'm just returning them to their natural state.

Maori could not have known that the shape of the country actually mirrored their beliefs. Therefore, the story of Maui must be true.

That fits in perfectly with your theories on Australia. Being a hotter country, reptiles and dragons are the likely life forms, while ocean-bound NZ is most likely a fish.

Does this fit in with own evidence?
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New Zealanders came from Italy! It all makes sense now!
 
buzz lightyear said:
I see that you are running your own "challenge", for two million bucks .
You had better hope no one wins it or good old N.Z. will go broke .

Since you seem to be coppying Randi, do we have to call you "The Amazing Athiest" . And is it true that you were cloned from one of Randi's toe nails back in the 50s ? This would explain many things .
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OK Randi, cough up that million bucks.

This post has to be the best example of internet "cold reading".
After just looking at the pic the Atheist has posted on his profile and this pic of Randi, it looks like I got the "toenail clone" right.

The Athiest...................................... Randi


Both with cute little beards, both in black, both skeptics, both offering million dollar challenges, what can I say?

Just make that cheque out to Buzz Lightyear at "infinity and beyond".
 
buzz lightyear said:
Some deep thought and research has gone into those answers, Belz.
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Yes, which is why I can safely say that Egyptians built it, and that it's a tomb.

Scholors have pondered those questions for decades needlessly, they should have consulted you.
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Actually, the reverse happened.

Do you know much about funerary texts or was this a wilkapedia revelation?
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I seem to know more than you.
 
buzz lightyear said:
OK Randi, cough up that million bucks.

This post has to be the best example of internet "cold reading".
After just looking at the pic the Atheist has posted on his profile and this pic of Randi, it looks like I got the "toenail clone" right.

The Athiest...................................... Randi
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Both with cute little beards, both in black, both skeptics, both offering million dollar challenges, what can I say?

Just make that cheque out to Buzz Lightyear at "infinity and beyond".
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Well, buzz, if your perception of the world around you is distorted like you displayed with your "comparison" of The Atheist and Mr. Randi, the origin of your "theories" seem to have a reasonable explanation: A confused, troubled, not-really-sane mind. (Well, d'uh!)

Do you accept an out-of-state chuckle check? (I even convinced Mr. Randi to throw in a couple dozen mil, what the heck, let's make it an even billion. You can finally afford the good coke and hookers without bruises.)
 
OMG, Buzz! Thank you!

I am Randi's secret love child!

(The fact that I'm about a foot taller than him may cause a few problems, but we'll just say I had an infusion of dragon-yolk.)
 
buzz lightyear said:
You will have to run them by me again Little 10 Toes.
But if it is the thing about the overseer during the building of the great pyramid of Giza, then we will have to disagree as no one knows exactly who built it.
Or for that matter, what it was bullt for.
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Well, let's review your claims shall we:
buzz lightyear said:
Understanding the going back is pretty easy . Seems that the past is strung out behind the earth like a long tail . To access it I have to materialise in an entity who also had access to the death world , giving me a body to temorally inhabit .
The most notable of these people was an Egyptian called Imothep . Smart dude , we got along famously. I got him to organize the building the ultimate artificial accoustic vessel , the great pyramid at Cheops .
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I responded to you and asked the following questions:
Little 10 Toes said:
...[responding to your claim that you spoke to Imhotep and got along with him]
Dude, if you know him so well, spell his name right. Imhotep.
How did you get to see him? Was there a special, "I'm from the future" door?
...[responding to the claim that it was an accoustic vessel]
Last I heard, it was a tomb. Why didn't you speak to Hemon? They didn't speak English back then so how did you converse engineering concepts?
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I also said:
Little 10 Toes said:
Also, I call total B.S. on your story. Wikipedia (yes, it's not always acurate, but neither is your story Buzz) says your boy Imhotep lived appx. 2667 BC - 2648 BC and "[a]s one of the officials of the Pharaoh Djosèr he designed the Pyramid of Djzosèr (Step Pyramid) at Saqqara in Egypt around 2630-2611 BC." (Imhotep entry, with internal links and referances removed)
"Most Egyptologists agree the pyramid was constructed over a 20 year period concluding around 2560 BC. It is generally believed the Great Pyramid was built as the tomb of Fourth dynasty Egyptian pharaoh Khufu (Cheops), after the person who created it, it is sometimes called Khufu's Pyramid or the Pyramid of Khufu. Khufu's vizier, Hemon, is credited as the architect of the Great Pyramid." (Great Pyramid of Giza entry, with internal links and referances removed)
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You said you talked to Imhotep and helped him originize the Great Pyramid. I also asked how could you be so wrong on the dates. Again, this is your " story ", you crazy Sci-fi writer you. You still haven't answered why you needed the Great Pyramid to contact people when you can contact an unknown Chinese emporer who wasn't in Egypt or when you contacted Rose Crowley who was there in 1904. But then you say she was there in 1903.

Here's your quotes:
Buzz lightyear said:
Unfortunately the Arabs pretty well buggered it,but it still ran well enough for me to get through to Rose Crowley back in 1904 .
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Buzz lightyear said:
Crowley spent a night with Rose in the great pyramid in 1903 .
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Also you mentioned that:
Buzz lightyear said:
since the great pyramid is the only man made acoustic vessel in that area I'm taking a punt that this is where I ended up.
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Well, I've just shown that there were other man made acoustic vessels there, mainly the other pyramids. And who were you going to inhabit since you said you needed a body.

Also, nice misdirection about the overseer. I never mentioned anything, nor do I care, who the overseer was.

It was a tomb. Why else would you store a dead body there as well as the other pyramids? Wait, I know, they weren't really keeping them, they were just holding on to them for some of the cooler kids, right?
 
Little 10 Toes said:
It was a tomb. Why else would you store a dead body there as well as the other pyramids?
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If there is one common thread in Egyptian tombs, it is that the walls are covered with this stuff, Little 10 Toes.


No pics, no body,....... capiche???

And if you were Egyptian, and you blew all your hard earned cash on the biggest pile of rocks in the country, you would certainly have your name carved all over the bloody thing.

As for the rest of your questions ; all I can say is that the occult is a bit like geology in that it is a field subject.
So if you want to get a feel for it, find an old remote grave yard , drop a tab of acid by yourself about midnight, and let me know how you get on.

Cheers
 
Nah, just the combination of a few good waves around and a touch of writers block.

But the full moon has kicked in and I'm heading down to the "nest" so I'll be back in "form" next week.

See if you can get something better than that laughing dog , Hey!
 
buzz lightyear said:
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As for the rest of your questions ; all I can say is that the occult is a bit like geology in that it is a field subject.
So if you want to get a feel for it, find an old remote grave yard , drop a tab of acid by yourself about midnight, and let me know how you get on.

Cheers
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I thought you don't do drugs, buzz lightyear. Tripping on a graveyard? Isn't that like puking on a sex partner, i.e. a generally bad idea but intriguing enough to find out (for weird minds)?

How is your challenge claim coming along? :D

Can we see your space-time arthurdents soon?
 
buzz lightyear said:
If there is one common thread in Egyptian tombs, it is that the walls are covered with this stuff, Little 10 Toes.
[URL]http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/imagehosting/thum_143234610d58a3f0cc.jpg[/URL]

No pics, no body,....... capiche???
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What are all those bits of paint on the wall iff not pics????
And if you were Egyptian, and you blew all your hard earned cash on the biggest pile of rocks in the country, you would certainly have your name carved all over the bloody thing.
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Take a look at the right-hand wall. Just by the left hand of the figure.

It is a cartouche of Queen Nefetari's name. So you're wrong - she DID had her name "carved all over the bloody thing"....
As for the rest of your questions ; all I can say is that the occult is a bit like geology in that it is a field subject.
So if you want to get a feel for it, find an old remote grave yard , drop a tab of acid by yourself about midnight, and let me know how you get on.

Cheers
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Does visiting the tombs in Egypt count? I have been inside a pyramid.

Have you?
 
EHocking, you are using logic and reason. That is overkill for this thread.

Here's a suggestion: Scratch the first number from your IQ, channel pillory, drmabus(a) or Paul Carey and just go with the flow. Like this poster did.

Then it'll all make "sense". ;)
 
Well EHocking, you are pretty good with your cartouche reading, but the point that I was trying to make to Little 10 Toes, is that the walls of Egyptian tombs are covered with inscriptions as in the example of Nefetari's.

So if the Great Pyramid of Cheops is Kufu's tomb, where are the inscriptions?

And no I havn't been in a pyramid, but it is one of the first on my hit list when good old Jimmy hits me with the "mill".
 
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