Prophecy Timeline Challenge

Davidjayjordan said:
Read Josephus historical accounts.
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The Josephus account of Jesus is discredited even by Christian scholars. It is not the work of Josephus. The widely held conclusion is that the reference to Jesus was added later by some well-meaning monk, and is of no historic value.
 
Davidjayjordan said:
Read Josephus historical accounts.... but then again you don;t usually want proofs, you just want to deny proofs.

Yet for proof of Jesus personnally, have some balls and get some faith and experience Him by putting it all on the line as a full time missionary, or per chance by His MERCY, if there's hope for you, He may choose a less costly and gutsy venue.

His choice, then again your choice.

Isn't it amazing that He doesn't force Himself on you, and gives you choice after choice, so you will be responsible for your own destiny.
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Josephus WHO, does he have a first name, and also like one book, one person doesn't have much weight.

"Have some balls and get some Faith", that is so childish, so you what us to dummy down to your level, I think therefore I will not dummy down.

And for the not forcing BS, to threaten someone with fire for all eternity is more then forcing.

Paul


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Davidjayjordan said:
Read Josephus historical accounts.... but then again you don;t usually want proofs, you just want to deny proofs.
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Josephus did not write anything about the Christ Jesus. There were all sorts of mad men wandering around the country at the time performing documented miracles and claiming to sent from God. Why believe in one with nil independent evidence?
 
Davidjayjordan said:
True skeptics don;t just tear down but have answers to build up.

SEE Jeremiah 1: 16
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What, for the love of Jove, does Jeremiah 1:16 have to do with that? Looks like a "have no other gods before me" sort of thing to me.

By the way, you are still a lying false prophet. Your predictions and your pronouncements are all suspect without objective evidence to support them.

Got any?
 
thaiboxerken said:
Calling you are false prophet and a failure at math isn't "name calling" it's just an accurate description. You're also quite a weird person. Why do you keep spamming your website to us here?
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I don't spam, I just give specfic direct hyperlinks to specific articles that answer the question at hand. Why should I rewrite everytime the same answer for the same question or the same situation.

WE have to make progress and understand and discern questions, so that we don;t waste time, but having basic building blocks in every area so as to be cohesive and integrated rather than being newbies and unprepared for mental battles and mental accomplishments and goals.

progress progress, progress..

Or onward Christian soldiers ....
 
jsfisher said:
What, for the love of Jove, does Jeremiah 1:16 have to do with that? Looks like a "have no other gods before me" sort of thing to me.

By the way, you are still a lying false prophet. Your predictions and your pronouncements are all suspect without objective evidence to support them.

Got any?
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It appears you would even call Jeremiah a false prophet and a liar... Oh well, I prefer siding with him than with you. And try verse 10 as didn;t have time to look up the verse for ya....


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Jer 1:10¶See, I have this day set thee over the nations and over the kingdoms, to root out, and to pull down, and to destroy, and to throw down, to build, and to plant.


For He was told to root out, pull down, destroy and throw down with words and principles the false kingdom so the Lord could establish and BUILD and PLANT a true one with truths..

So true skeptics don;t just pull down, they also make way for a planned building and a PLANTING.... and new life.
 
Originally Posted by Davidjayjordan
Read Josephus historical accounts.....


What a rube. Can't believe you played that card in defense.
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Its not defense, its offense, as Josephus was a true historian, and only offensive to those that don;t like true history.

In other words true researchers READ JOSEPHUS...
 
Davidjayjordan said:
It appears you would even call Jeremiah a false prophet and a liar... Oh well, I prefer siding with him than with you. And try verse 10 as didn;t have time to look up the verse for ya....
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Nope, you are the lying false prophet, Davidjayjordan. That's an objectively determined fact.

I suggested Daniel may be a false prophet as well. I made no such suggestion regarding Jeremiah. And for neither Daniel nor Jeremiah did I accuse them of lying. You have lied again, Davidjayjordan.

As for verse 10 versus versus 16, I never asked you "to look up a verse for ya." I don't cherish your 2,000 year-old book of fairy tales. However, I can see that even in your world of twisted reality, Davidjayjordan, spewing the lies and perversions you have here would make your Jesus cry.

Why do you make Jesus cry?
 
I think I just figured it out.

DJJ comes in here attempting to tempt us with lies and false prophecies. He advocates the notion that churches are evil, but sensuality is desirable...

(Not that I entirely disagree)

Yet he buys into the mythos (apparently) behind Christianity...

He's a Satanist! It makes perfect sense! Lies, false prophecy, tempting people away from their church, obsession with sex...

Yep. Perfect sense.
 
Z said:
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He's a Satanist! It makes perfect sense! Lies, false prophecy, tempting people away from their church, obsession with sex...

Yep. Perfect sense.
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I have a couple of levey-tradition friends whom would strongly object to being classified in the same religion as DJJ..........
 
Davidjayjordan said:
True skeptics find real answers, impeaching a dummy figure head would only bring on another Illumunati figure head to sway the masses.

True skeptics don;t just tear down but have answers to build up.
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"True" skeptics? Illuminati? You really are a conspiracy theorist, aren't you? :roll:

Back to the looney bin with you!
 
Z said:
I think I just figured it out.

DJJ comes in here attempting to tempt us with lies and false prophecies. He advocates the notion that churches are evil, but sensuality is desirable...

(Not that I entirely disagree)

Yet he buys into the mythos (apparently) behind Christianity...

He's a Satanist! It makes perfect sense! Lies, false prophecy, tempting people away from their church, obsession with sex...

Yep. Perfect sense.
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Or the Anti-Christ, in the flesh. Ooooooh, the prophecies are making more and more sense now............
 
Darth Rotor said:
Last I checked, Erdman disagrees with you.

Not discredited, js, though there is certainly disagreement among scholars on Josephus' significance.

DR
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I quite agree with you DR. I think the most current consensus is that Josephus may have actually referenced a man named Jesus, but that the text has been so thoroughly corrupted by translation and interpolation to have completely lost any historic value.

However, our debate opponent here lacks any capacity for subtlety or areas of gray. The flatness of my statement to DJJ was meant as a direct counter to his unqualified "read Josephus (for proof of the Christ)." I admit it contained opinion and hyperbole.
 
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