Prophecy Timeline Challenge

Davidjayjordan said:
Not so dear Jfisher...

Please reframe from calling me a lying false prophet as that is surely deemed name calling and a PERSONAL ATTACK.....

But if it is acceptable by the moderators HERE by both you and Bruto, then I shall respond in kind with the reverse against you and be justified in doing so.

Let the mdoerators determine whether your name calling abbreviations is a personal ATTACK or whether it is legitimate discussion of an objective principle.
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You have responded in kind from the very start, calling all who challenge your preposterous claims false, nihilistic, atheistic and any number of other unwarranted things. I feel quite comfortable calling you a lying, false prophet, and a hypocrite to boot, and invite the moderators to consider the charge based on the actual content of your posts and the links with which you have so abundantly spammed all your threads, which contain falsehoods, misstatements, misdirection, sanctimonious hypocrisy and insult sufficient in my opinion to warrant the title, based entirely on the content of your writing here and the character you evince through your posts. I make no reference to who or what you are when you're at home, but the persona which posts as "Davidjayjordan" posts lies and false prophecies, and if that identity bothers you all you need to do is stop.

You can call me anything you like as long as it is based on what I post here, and on your opinion of what I write here, and I won't mind a bit. Just try to be accurate and avoid your usual mistakes of comprehension.
 
Seeing the moderators deem your name calling and slandering acceptable HERE, I shall make note of their vacuum and non-judgment of people being encouraged to call me names.

I didn't think they would have the courage to control the m.o.b. when the mob is in the majority.

Now back to the simple basic exact timeline of the future....

Maybe in words this time as most donl;t seem to be able to add 1260 plus 30 plus 1260.. and most don;t seem to understand the timeline of a baby's birth.... and many many other easy to understand concepts.

Daniel 9 the 'Last 7 Years'
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[/SIZE][SIZE=-1]As the Lord himself said, “Whosoever readeth, let him understand” what Daniel the prophet said about the LAST Days. (Mathew 24: 15 …..). In other words, if we want to know what the Lord will be doing in the ENDTIME, we have to study and learn what His prophet Daniel said about the 'LAST SEVEN YEARS'.

This basic outline is all wrapped up in a few verses in Daniel Chapter Nine. So if you open up your Bibles, and hopefully they will be King James Version Bibles if you are to truly be able to cross reference what is said in the spirit to the rest of the Bible. Anyway, go to Chapter 9, verse 24. I’ll write down the exact verse as we go along and put my comments in parenthesis. But this is shown graphically on the [/SIZE][SIZE=-1]Messianic Timeline[/SIZE][SIZE=-1]

24 Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophesy, and to anoint the most Holy.

So no matter how you look at it, for all these things to be accomplished it definitely has to be the End of things as we know it and the Lord of Lords has to have returned to straighten things out. Why because we certainly don’t have an end of sin and iniquity in the world today, and we certainly don’t have everlasting righteous reigning in today’s courts nor institutions. Besides, without the Lord’s 2nd return, how can there be peace on earth without the Prince of Peace who will bring in everlasting righteousness. So until He gets anointed as the Rightful Heir and Rightful Ruler of this wicked world, His prophecies through ALL of his prophets have not been fulfilled nor His vision completed.

Therefore as this beautiful mathematical prophecy states there will be seventy (70) weeks determined upon us, his people (spiritual Israel) and upon his holy city, (the City of David…Jerusalem), before it gets cleansed.

25 Know therefore and understand that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the prince shall be seven (7) weeks, and three score (3 times 20 = 60) and two weeks. (Making a grand total of 7 + 60 + 2 = 69 weeks).

O.K. We’re going up until the Messiah, or the promised Savior for He was prophesied about from the very beginning by all including Adam and all his descendants, for He was called 'The Son of Man', our Redeemer because He was the Promised One to come that would save us from our original sins. So who was this Messiah and when did he come?

Well, as Daniel is told, the 70 weeks start ‘from the going forth of the commandment to restore and build Jerusalem’. Yet Daniel is speaking in about 534 B.C. at a time when the Lord’s people have been scattered and many of them taken into CAPTIVITY to Babylon, as was the case with Daniel himself. The Temple of Solomon in Jerusalem had been destroyed by the conquering army of Nebacanezar, the King of Babylon in 586 B.C., and the whole Temple Mount area in Jerusalem was in shambles. And it was to stay that way, all the way up until the time of Artaxerses King of the Medes, because His father Darius the Mede had defeated Beltezazar the son of Nebancanezar. For it took until 454. B.C. before Artaxerxes yielded to the request of Nehemiah asking the king to allow him and others to return and rebuild the city of their father’s selpuchre and their temple, back in Judah. (Nehemiah 2:5).

So according to Daniel, this first period of time from the going forth of this commandment to rebuild would take seven (7) weeks, until the street shalt be built again and the wall, even in troublous times. Why did it take so long, simply because while Nehemiah and his men were building the wall and city, they were also having to fight off attacks from those that didn?t want them to finish the completion of the Lord's wall.. (Nehemiah 4; 7,8). Yet they accomplished their task in 405 B.C, 49 years after beginning. So let's see, if 7 weeks equaled 49 years, mathematically that would mean that one week in Daniel's prophecy would be equal to 7 years.

But let's check, it to make sure. and lo and behold the original Hebrew word used here in the Old Testament was 'Shebua'. And the meaning of Shebua is seven. So just as the Lord created everything in seven days or what we call a week even today, this word 'Shebua' meant seven. And if you take seven shuba's that would make 7 x 7 or 49 years.

Great, so we have a match, and all is perfectly matching both history, language and mathematics, as the Lord fulfilled his never-failing Word. .So now let's take the second time period, which Daniel says takes three score and two weeks until the Messiah Shall be cut off.. That's 62 weeks or 62 x 7 equals 434 years from the finishing of the wall in Jerusalem. So we add 432 years onto 405 B.C. but because the time line Before Christ went downward towards zero and then onward positively as the years of A.D. passed, we subtract 434 from 405 meaning we have a difference of 29. But hold everything, there was no year 0, whether B.C. or A.D. so let's add one more year to our positive number of 29 making our projected cut off date for the Messiah to be 30 A.D.



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Calling you are false prophet and a failure at math isn't "name calling" it's just an accurate description. You're also quite a weird person. Why do you keep spamming your website to us here?
 
Davidjayjordan said:
[SIZE=-1]So now let's take the second time period, which Daniel says takes three score and two weeks until the Messiah Shall be cut off.. That's 62 weeks or 62 x 7 equals 434 years from the finishing of the wall in Jerusalem. So we add 432 years onto 405 B.C. [/SIZE]
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I just love the way you jump around. First you jump from 62 weeks multiply that by 7 (where to hell did you dig up 7, don’t worry, you’ll make up something dumb) and get 434 years (weeks to years) then you drop 2 years to get 432 so you can work your dumb number 432 in there and for more fun you throw in 405 B.C.

You are not well DJJ.

Paul

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Davidjayjordan said:
[SIZE=-1]So let's see, if 7 weeks equaled 49 years, mathematically that would mean that one week in Daniel's prophecy would be equal to 7 years.[/SIZE]
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7 weeks equals 49 years, the word is NO

Paul

:) :) :)

Magical thinking, begets magical thinking, begets etc.
 
Davidjayjordan said:
Maybe in words this time as most donl;t seem to be able to add 1260 plus 30 plus 1260.. and most don;t seem to understand the timeline of a baby's birth.... and many many other easy to understand concepts.
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And neither do you. I am hesitant to even ask this, but do you really know anything about gestation periods? Anything?
 
Davidjayjordan said:
Seeing the moderators deem your name calling and slandering acceptable HERE, I shall make note of their vacuum and non-judgment of people being encouraged to call me names.
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You lied and your prophecy was false.

1.) There was no slander.
2.) There was no name calling.

Figure that math.
 
RandFan said:
You lied and your prophecy was false.

1.) There was no slander.
2.) There was no name calling.

Figure that math.
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I prophesize that the mods will pass this thread to AAH.

If they don't, they should.

It is mostly a canned meat product.

DR
 
Davidjayjordan said:
Yet they accomplished their task in 405 B.C, 49 years after beginning. So let's see, if 7 weeks equaled 49 years, mathematically that would mean that one week in Daniel's prophecy would be equal to 7 years.
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The great thing about most prophecies is that eventually, in the fullness of time, something will happen that can be claimed to match the prophecy. Vagueness helps, too.

A wrench gets tossed in the works when the prophet puts any sort of time reference in the prophecy.

Davidjayjordan, you failed to cover up your own false prophecy; now your are trying to run offense for Daniel's predicition boo-boo. The KJV (which was your choice) says "weeks", not "sevens of years." Give it up. You are a lying false prophet, and Daniel wasn't such a good prophet, either.
 
Well Fisher, Jesus confirmed the veracity of Daniel in Mathew 24 : 15, and confirmed the world wide flood and Noah just afterwards, so I think I shall believe in his VERACITY rather than your denials of truth.

Darn false prophets keep thinking their governments that they put soooo much FAITH and TRUST in will go on forever.

This is the hand that they think feeds them and so they are FAITHFUL to their MASTERS of this world.
 
Davidjayjordan said:
Well Fisher, Jesus confirmed the veracity of Daniel in Mathew 24 : 15, and confirmed the world wide flood and Noah just afterwards, so I think I shall believe in his VERACITY rather than your denials of truth.
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No Jesus, no Noad, and no flood.

Paul

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Davidjayjordan said:
Well Fisher, Jesus confirmed the veracity of Daniel in Mathew 24 : 15, and confirmed the world wide flood and Noah just afterwards, so I think I shall believe in his VERACITY rather than your denials of truth.
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A 2,000 year old book of fairy tales and inconsistencies hardly qualifies as proof for its own fantasies.

Got any real proof?

How about even just a reliable historical record that Jesus existed?
 
I found someone of interest. He seems to have the two characteristics Davidjayjordan cherishes most:

  1. He has a web site, so he is super-smart and on a mission to educate the great unwashed masses.
  2. He is part of an impeach Bush campaign, so he by definition a true skeptic.

The only problem is he presents evidence that Daniel was a false prophet. Go figure.
 
jsfisher said:
A 2,000 year old book of fairy tales and inconsistencies hardly qualifies as proof for its own fantasies.

Got any real proof?

How about even just a reliable historical record that Jesus existed?
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Read Josephus historical accounts.... but then again you don;t usually want proofs, you just want to deny proofs.

Yet for proof of Jesus personnally, have some balls and get some faith and experience Him by putting it all on the line as a full time missionary, or per chance by His MERCY, if there's hope for you, He may choose a less costly and gutsy venue.

His choice, then again your choice.

Isn't it amazing that He doesn't force Himself on you, and gives you choice after choice, so you will be responsible for your own destiny.
 
jsfisher said:
I found someone of interest. He seems to have the two characteristics Davidjayjordan cherishes most:
  1. He has a web site, so he is super-smart and on a mission to educate the great unwashed masses.
  2. He is part of an impeach Bush campaign, so he by definition a true skeptic.
The only problem is he presents evidence that Daniel was a false prophet. Go figure.
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True skeptics find real answers, impeaching a dummy figure head would only bring on another Illumunati figure head to sway the masses.

True skeptics don;t just tear down but have answers to build up.

SEE Jeremiah 1: 16
 
Lets talk about the 390 Days of Ezekiel and how his prophecy is duplicated in the End Time.... and confirms Daniel's and John's.

Then maybe we can discuss Moses prophecy of our witnesses, and then its confirmation by Esdras (Ezra).

Isn't prophecy amazing because all have confirmations so that none need stand alone. All exact and specific and confirming, so that we are without excuse in not understanding them.

O.K. O.K. we shall also get into Amos and then Joel's confirmations.

Twist my arm will ya, FINE we can also see brother Isaiah's prophecy's becasue it wasn;t his words but the Lord's as all these prophets were spoken through. Amazing amazing...
 
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