BBC 9/11: The Conspiracy Files

"9/11 Ct: the evidence doesn't support them. Case closed"

Jones: "Truth is coming out" "We will prevail" "never surrender"

X-files guys: People are disappointed when you debunk CT's. Emotional rather than rational.
 
Senator Bob Graham: witholding information has eroded public confidence. He called White House, we were told we'd get cooperation, nothing happened.

It was a conspiracy to cover up that blunders were made before 9/11. Collaboration between USG and agencies to keep information out of publics hands. Conspiracy after, not before.

Alex Jones: we will never stop, we will win, never surrender.

Guy from earlier: truth isn't comforting. Emotional beings on watching programme will want something more than your programme.

Narrator: conspiracies will roll on for long time to come, no matter how distressing it is for families of people who died on that day.

Plays "United 93... United 93..." clip of ATC to fade...

And we're done.
 
See Dylan gulp like 10 times when that BBC guy was challenging him over the coroners quote?
 
Yeah, hilarious.

"It doesn't matter what Wally said"

Kinda reminds me of the Rock from wrestling: "IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT YOU SAID"
 
I watched it, thanks for the heads up. Not a bad episode; I especially liked Frank Spotnitz's comments near the end, about the rational and emotional reactions to debunkings. You see that in action here every day.
 
I thought that the outro of the program was very emotional "united 93...united 93... united 93.." getting quieter and quieter. :(
 
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I got the impression Dylan didn't didn't know what the word simile meant.
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I was watching that thinking 'I'll go on JREF after this as suggest he probably went and picked up a dictionary after the BBC guys left'

saaaad act
 
Oh no! The 'Platoon' music! "Hit piece! Hit piece! Trying to twist people emotionally!"

Re: Frank Spotnitz, I wonder what Chris "The Truth Is Out There" Carter thought of his ex-colleague's attitude! That Lone Gunmen plot was something I'd forgotten about. Amazing. Though followed up with interesting information about the hijackers having been caught on CCTV many times, I wonder if David Ray Griffin knows that and can remove the nonsense about the hijackers being still alive and never having visited the US from his books.

Overall, I think the program was genuinely a case of style over substance, and they oversold the "real conspiracy" part, and not incidentally overtly came out with what amounted to a political statement criticising the US government, which I think has a place, but not in a programme purporting to be an impartial examination of the facts, and doubly not from a BBC programme. (Though shoring up their credentials for not being any government's mouthpiece!:D)

Oh, I've just heard something behind me about Kurt Cobain being a Christian, and that reminded me. The LC office has a Jesus "Employee of the Month" poster??
 
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Just saw it all, and I think it was a very clear and rational summary that left the CTs no ground to stand on. Even in a world gone mad, you can usually trust the journalistic integrity of the BBC. The only thing they seemed to leave unchallenged was Fetzer's assertion that flight 77's approach violated the laws of physics, but he was coming across as a total nutter by then anyway.

I'd never seen Alex Jones before. He's scary. Dylan Avery... isn't.

Dave
 
Larry Lovage said:
Oh, I've just heard something behind me about Kurt Cobain being a Christian, and that reminded me. The LC office has a Jesus "Employee of the Month" poster??
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Yeah I'm watching the Kurt Cobain thing too.

Yeah LC Jesus: Alex is a jesus nut too kinda.
 
Dave Rogers said:
Just saw it all, and I think it was a very clear and rational summary that left the CTs no ground to stand on. Even in a world gone mad, you can usually trust the journalistic integrity of the BBC.
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I guarante you that the CTs will claim the BBC was threatened or paid off to hide the TROOF.
 
They mention that independant non-government funded investigation by those guys of the pentagon.

Now, this is what the CTs want right?


They got it, it doesn't fit with their theory...thus it is ignored.

They can never win.
 
Larry Lovage said:
Overall, I think the program was genuinely a case of style over substance, and they oversold the "real conspiracy" part, and not incidentally overtly came out with what amounted to a political statement criticising the US government, which I think has a place, but not in a programme purporting to be an impartial examination of the facts, and doubly not from a BBC programme. (Though shoring up their credentials for not being any government's mouthpiece!:D)
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This criticism isn't new for BBC documentary's, for example Horizon, it just seems to be their style.
 
Hmm, I didn't think that was such a great programme. Obviously there's a limit to what you can do in an hour, but I'd have hoped they could have done more investigations themselves. Why have the Popular Mechanics guy talking about NORAD, for instance? Why not talk to NORAD, some pilots or whatever themselves? There just wasn't very much new in it... I think I could have done a better job. Maybe I'll have to!
 
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