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Obama isn't black enough...

Teresa Heinz Kerry is an African American. You can look it up.
 
BPSCG said:
Teresa Heinz Kerry is an African American. You can look it up.
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Is she American African American? European African American? Or just good ole fashion African American?
 
Luke T. said:
I must admit I harbor a fear that he is wearing a mask and that it will slip and we will discover he's a raving left-wing nutjob. But that's the Republican in me. :)
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"Holy cow, it's Ramsey Clark! I can't believe we almost elected you president!"
"And I would have gotten away with it too, if it hadn't been for you meddlers!"
:D
 
Obama reminds me of that character from Get Smart...the evil "Chaos" agent known as "Simon-the-likeable".

You end up liking him due to his insurmountable charm...but hey...he's EVIL!

-z
 
BPSCG said:
Teresa Heinz Kerry is an African American. You can look it up.
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From American Heritage dictionary:

African American: A Black American of African ancestry.

:confused: uhhh OK....but what is a "Black American"....

(From WordNet)
an American whose ancestors were born in Africa

:rolleyes:

Translation: EVERYONE is African American, as all of us originate from Africa. ie the term is pointless.

What was so horrific about "black" anyway?
 
steverino said:
Let's not get carried away Luke. Maybe he had his sights set on the '04 national senate race. There was a high profile racial profiling case in suburban Chicago at that time (An affluent white suburb next to the suburb where I grew up.) Jesse Jackson was all over it. And the incident predated Obama's bill by a mere nine months.

http://www.adversity.net/policefire_2_highland_park.htm
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Ahhhhh. Interesting. Thanks!
 
Luke T. said:
I must admit I harbor a fear that he is wearing a mask and that it will slip and we will discover he's a raving left-wing nutjob. But that's the Republican in me. :)
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"Holy cow, it's Ramsey Clarke! I can't believe we almost elected you president!" :fred:
"And I would have gotten away with it too, if it hadn't been for you meddlers!"
:D
 
Hutch said:
Slow news period, I guess, Molly.
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Hey, if someone announces nearly two years ahead of time that they are running for Prez, there shouldn't be any cries of moral outrage at being attacked so soon.

Easier to shoot them down now before they gain momentum.
 
headscratcher4 said:
Ok, so there is some sort of media made-up controversy circulating around attempting to suggest that Obama won't necessarilly appeal to black Americans because he didn't experience the Afro-American experience. In other words, white mother and affrican immigrant father preclude him from understanding 400 years of oppression herritage, etc.

Now, what gets me isn't the argument. I don't really care about it. But, I saw a woman...an editor of the on-line Magazine Salon ... essentially making this argument, straight faced on the Colbert Report (he, on the other hand, was having a hoot with it all). Anyway, she called Obama and African African American. That's about the point I threw the TV out the window. African African American...did she here herself? Did she have any concept of how stupid that sounded.

African African American.

Rant done.
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I got news for her -- it ain't just "oppression".

I worked in a large office (~1500 people) with technical and business people there. One of the guys I worked with was an African American (of very dark skin if it makes a difference for this discussion), a "normal" US citizen (no parents directly from other countries, again relevant apparently), who had a PhD and had gone to MIT.

My wife (who worked with me at the time) and I were walking down the hall behind two younger AA's, who were, quite literally, the mail girl and mail boy. They were taking between themselves and making fun of this guy.

You're the god damned mail delivery peons, and this is your "day job", you're not even in college. And you dare make fun of another guy who got a PhD from MIT in computers for being black?!?!?


Un-F****** believable. Un-f****** believable.
 
Beerina said:
I got news for her -- it ain't just "oppression".

I worked in a large office (~1500 people) with technical and business people there. One of the guys I worked with was an African American (of very dark skin if it makes a difference for this discussion), a "normal" US citizen (no parents directly from other countries, again relevant apparently), who had a PhD and had gone to MIT.

My wife (who worked with me at the time) and I were walking down the hall behind two younger AA's, who were, quite literally, the mail girl and mail boy. They were taking between themselves and making fun of this guy.

You're the god damned mail delivery peons, and this is your "day job", you're not even in college. And you dare make fun of another guy who got a PhD from MIT in computers for being black?!?!?


Un-F****** believable. Un-f****** believable.
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The Bucket Of Crabs Syndrome, a.k.a. The Tall Poppy Syndrome.

ETA: http://www.greggriffin.com/Editorials/CrabBucket.htm

His story in the opening paragraph is most likely made up since I've heard it many times from various sources. But it makes the point.
 
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BPSCG said:
It's racist.
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That is not the reason it was dropped. I have never heard anyone state that the use of "black" is racist, even when "African American" is preferred. The new term, popularized by Jesse Jackson, is desired because it is formed the same way as other ethnic identifiers are formed. I still use "black" because it's easier on the tongue and still easily understood. No one has ever complained.
 
hgc said:
That is not the reason it was dropped. I have never heard anyone state that the use of "black" is racist, even when "African American" is preferred. The new term, popularized by Jesse Jackson, is desired because it is formed the same way as other ethnic identifiers are formed. I still use "black" because it's easier on the tongue and still easily understood. No one has ever complained.
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That's enough out of you whitey.




























































gotcha! ;)
-z
 
hgc said:
That is not the reason it was dropped. I have never heard anyone state that the use of "black" is racist, even when "African American" is preferred. The new term, popularized by Jesse Jackson, is desired because it is formed the same way as other ethnic identifiers are formed.
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Which other ethnic identifiers are these? It is extremely rare that I've ever heard people talk about "Irish Americans" etc etc. Usually they're just lumped in as "white."

I guess it's time to get the phrase "European American" going eh?
 
bigred said:
Which other ethnic identifiers are these? It is extremely rare that I've ever heard people talk about "Irish Americans" etc etc. Usually they're just lumped in as "white."

I guess it's time to get the phrase "European American" going eh?
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What barn in what country do you live? "Irish-American", "Italian-American" and "German-American" all have long histories of being used as ethnic indentifiers in the USA.
 
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