Israel responsible for the anthrax attacks

[Belz...]

We know the anthrax came from an advance bio-weapons lab because it was the best stuff seen by investigators.

Quotation please.

As to why Israel? I will hope you read the article completely to find the answers. As I have said before, Israel had the means, motive, and opportunity to have launched the attacks. If there are other countries that qualify in this area them please name them.

The United States of America.

A lone disgruntled scientist could not have been responsible for the attacks. The anthrax had to have been made by a team of scientists with advance knowledge and expertise. Nano-technology was use to connect the special coating onto the anthrax particle.

...and James Bond MUST have been involved.

 

[Belz...]

Not speculation. Gary Matsumoto was a major news reporter. He worked for ABC News. You have no credibility in your "review" of his article.

Oh, well. If he's a MAJOR reporter !!

It is possible another country could have made this type of anthrax–Russia for example–but Russia did not have a motive for getting the US to go to war in Iraq.

The Anthrax attacks did not send the US against Iraq.

What's the motive, again ?

By your reasoning anyone who works at a major news organization is not reliable. You just seem to pick and choose.

Well, you won't win any logic prize anytime soon. What he was saying is that news outlets are not necessarily reliable.

Was that visible, enough ?

 

[a_unique_person]

Are you seriously suggesting Russia is a more likely suspect than Israel in the anthrax attacks?

It's just as (im)plausible a theory as yours.

 

[MaGZ]

Quotation please.

Please read this:


FBI's Theory On Anthrax Is Doubted
Attacks Not Likely Work Of 1 Person, Experts Say


http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A28334-2002Oct27?language=printer

 

[MaGZ]

Oh, well. If he's a MAJOR reporter !!



The Anthrax attacks did not send the US against Iraq.

What's the motive, again ?

The anthrax attacks terrorized the American people and the US Senate.

The sole reason for invading Iraq at the time was over WMDs. The Senate gave a blank check to Bush to go into Iraq. This was the Israeli plan.

 

[jhunter1163]

OK. I see you missed my point again. I'll try to use smaller words.

The fact that one works at a big TV job does not mean that one is right all of the time. Even big TV guys are wrong some of the time.

The big TV guy you quote did not say the lab sent the germs. He said the lab was a good place to start to look.

There. I used only words of one syllable. Maybe now you'll understand.

 

[Architect]

The anthrax attacks terrorized the American people and the US Senate.

The sole reason for invading Iraq at the time was over WMDs. The Senate gave a blank check to Bush to go into Iraq. This was the Israeli plan.

Remind me again why the UK sided with the US then?

 

[Cl1mh4224rd]

Honestly, I'm failing to even see the importance of the anthrax attacks. What was the point? They were woefully ineffective, especially compared to 9/11. No one even talks about them anymore, except for this white supremacist group that only seems to grasping at things to blame on Jews. They weren't even on the radar in this War on Terror.

They accomplished nothing, as far as I can tell. The delivery was rather limited and, while tragic, few people actually died from exposure (5 deaths, 17 sick).

Also...

DNA sequencing of the anthrax taken from Robert Stevens (the first victim) was conducted at The Institute for Genomic Research beginning in December 2001. Sequencing was finished within a month and the analysis was published in the journal Science in early 2002 (see abstract here). The analysis revealed a number of differences that ruled out laboratories in England, and subsequent testing showed the anthrax to be identical to the original Ames strain from Fort Detrick.

Radiocarbon dating conducted by the Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory in June 2002 established that the anthrax was cultured no more than two years before the mailings. In October 2006 it was reported that water used to process the anthrax spores came from a source in the northeastern United States.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2001_anthrax_attacks

 

[stateofgrace]

The anthrax attacks terrorized the American people and the US Senate.

The sole reason for invading Iraq at the time was over WMDs. The Senate gave a blank check to Bush to go into Iraq. This was the Israeli plan.

This is the problem I have and maybe you could clear this up.

Here you are going on and on about Israel trying to get the US to attack Iraq by virtue of the fact that they staged anthrax attacks on the US and got the US to invade Iraq.

I would have thought that back in 2001 Israel would have had far greater problems on her plate that Iraq, bearing in mind the Countries army had been all but alienated in the first Gulf war and had been under crippling economic sanctions ever since. Looking at other possible candidates, i.e. Syria, Jordon, Iran etc it seems to me that Iraq was actually the least of Israels problems.

So why try to get the US to invade a country that posed relatively minor problems in the grand scheme of things?

Why not fool the US into going for the real big fish?

 

[MaGZ]

Remind me again why the UK sided with the US then?

I don’t know why the UK decided to go into Iraq.

Are the leaders of Britain as dumb as George Bush?

 

[DontAskMe]

this is one of the problems with twoofers, the anthrax attacks, the targets and the timing, really bothers me as do many things about the current political situation, and I would love to look into it more

but if suspicion is tied to the twoofers and the rest of their insanity, we will never get anything investigated...

 

[Architect]

I don’t know why the UK decided to go into Iraq.

So despite proposing your theory, you have no idea about the UK's central role in the build up to invasion? Don't you think you should? Are there any other aspects of your hypothesis you haven't really investigated?

 

[MaGZ]

Honestly, I'm failing to even see the importance of the anthrax attacks. What was the point? They were woefully ineffective, especially compared to 9/11. No one even talks about them anymore, except for this white supremacist group that only seems to grasping at things to blame on Jews. They weren't even on the radar in this War on Terror.

They accomplished nothing, as far as I can tell. The delivery was rather limited and, while tragic, few people actually died from exposure (5 deaths, 17 sick).

Also...


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2001_anthrax_attacks

The Ames strain was common and could have been in any anthrax research lab in the world.

 

[MaGZ]

This is the problem I have and maybe you could clear this up.

Here you are going on and on about Israel trying to get the US to attack Iraq by virtue of the fact that they staged anthrax attacks on the US and got the US to invade Iraq.

I would have thought that back in 2001 Israel would have had far greater problems on her plate that Iraq, bearing in mind the Countries army had been all but alienated in the first Gulf war and had been under crippling economic sanctions ever since. Looking at other possible candidates, i.e. Syria, Jordon, Iran etc it seems to me that Iraq was actually the least of Israels problems.

So why try to get the US to invade a country that posed relatively minor problems in the grand scheme of things?

Why not fool the US into going for the real big fish?

At the time, Sadam was considered the most dangerous person in the world. In other words dangerous to Israel. (today the new monster for the Israelis is Iran)

There were two groups that were pushing for war in Iraq, the Israelis and the neocons in America. Most of the time their ideologies were identical.

For the Israelis, Iraq was to be the first domino to be knocked down with other countries: Syria, Iran, and more to follow.
They failed in their plans.

 

[jhunter1163]

For the Israelis, Iraq was to be the first domino to be knocked down with other countries: Syria, Iran, and more to follow.
They failed in their plans.

MaGZ, do you remember Afghanistan? Bin Laden was hanging out there and we invaded it? Surely you heard. It was in ALL the papers.

 

[MaGZ]

So despite proposing your theory, you have no idea about the UK's central role in the build up to invasion? Don't you think you should? Are there any other aspects of your hypothesis you haven't really investigated?

Maybe this will explaine why the UK went into Iraq.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Downing_Street_memo

Faked intelligence on Iraq came from two sources: the Israelis and the neocons.

 

[MaGZ]

MaGZ, do you remember Afghanistan? Bin Laden was hanging out there and we invaded it? Surely you heard. It was in ALL the papers.

The "war on terror" was divert from Afghanistan by the neocons.

 

[Architect]

Maybe this will explaine why the UK went into Iraq.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Downing_Street_memo

Faked intelligence on Iraq came from two sources: the Israelis and the neocons.

So the UK, a country of 60 million people and one of the most developed countries on the Earth, with MI5 and MI6, and years of dealing with terrorism at home, was fooled by the nasty Joos and NWO neocons?

is that the best you can do?

 

[Architect]

Just as an aside MaGZ, can I interest you in a holiday in Europe this summer. THere are a number of countries which would particularly interest you including:

1. The UK, a land of 4 nations and over 2000 years of history, where even my house is older than most of your country. The sights, the sounds, the libel/slander and racial/religious incitement laws....

2. Austria, cultural centre of central Europe - the mountains, Vienna, the laws preventing unfounded anti-semitic accusations......

3. La Belle France - wine, food, fraternitie, libertie, and laws which ensure that those making anti-semitic accusations go straight to jail (do not pass go, do not collect £200 pounds, prepare to meet Jean Marie Le Penn)

4. Who can forget Germany, land of contrasts, the largest nation in Europe. From the Black Forest to the Baltic, from the Saarland to the Elbe, a country committed to human rights and locking anti semitic nutcases in jail.

5. Scandanavia, with some of the most beautiful landscapes in the world and a right-on, highly developed liberal society. Who lock anti-semites in jail.


Really. Come over this summer! Feel free to make public speaches and write letters to papers! We'd love to see more of you!!!

(probably about 1-2 years, plus parole for good behaviour)

 

[stateofgrace]

At the time, Sadam was considered the most dangerous person in the world. In other words dangerous to Israel. (today the new monster for the Israelis is Iran)

There were two groups that were pushing for war in Iraq, the Israelis and the neocons in America. Most of the time their ideologies were identical.

For the Israelis, Iraq was to be the first domino to be knocked down with other countries: Syria, Iran, and more to follow.
They failed in their plans.

Maybe this will explaine why the UK went into Iraq.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Downing_Street_memo

Faked intelligence on Iraq came from two sources: the Israelis and the neocons.

Gotcha.

If the intelligence was faked then Israel knew that Iraq posed no threat whatsoever to them. Therefore there was absolutely no point in them framing a country that posed no threat. There was no point in targeting a non existent threat.

Either that or the Intel was real and Iraq really did have WMD and as such the invasion was justifiable.They really was a threat to Isreal and neighbouring states.

So was the Intel real or fake?