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UFO over O'Hare

American said:
The distinction is not one that most skeptics accept:

Miracles have a certain "poofiness" about them - they are things that happen without reason, and always attributed to faith.

UFOs, if they do exist, are based on technology and science that's advanced further than our own. There is no "poof" to them.


Most often, "If they do exist," is not even considered in skeptical forums.
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You seem to know a lot about "poofiness". Have you been ripping off Elton John again?
 
Sorry. I'm still stuck the "photos".

That same second picture can be found on this page:
http://www.nationalufocenter.com/artman/publish/article_121.php

The "photo" caption reads "Illustration of disc above control towers"

However on that first page of pics, the caption posted by forum member Steven was "Second independant photo of same object taken of disc above control towers same event - O'Hare."

Just thought I'd share.
 
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Definitely manipulated image..

Ditto ..

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Here is a zoomed in crop ..






Of course God, or aliens could make objects, that when photographed, appear to be amateur Photo Shop'ed jobs...
 
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Patricio Elicer said:
Here are seemingly two independant pictures of the UFO. Too good to be true?. If these are true pics of the object, then the case may be worth paying attention.
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I was reading Phil Plait's badastronomy blog earlier, and one of the posts linked to this site http://pic1.funtigo.com/valuca/?g=25544746&cr=1, a collection of some truly remarkable cloud photos (thanks Phil!)

Is it just me, or does that second picture in the UFO site look remarkably like a lenticular cloud? I'm sure there would be at least a dozen people in a crowd of hundreds that would be convinced it was a ufo...
 
MichelQC said:
Only a dozen people saw this?? At O'Hare airport one of the busiest airport in the US? In broad daylight? During peak traffic hours? There must have been hundreds if not thousands of people within visual range of this "phenomena" and yet only a handful of people reported seeing this? Now there's solid evidence for you! :rolleyes:
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They were the only group smoking salvia?
 
Hi Crazycowbob,

Yeah. I think it looks like a lenticular cloud, too. (Way cool pictures on that funtigo.com site, btw).

However, I'm quite sure that blob of what ever it is was photoshopped into this photo from wikipedia:

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baron said:
If not, the report is quite interesting (despite the somewhat childish derision it received from some quarters)
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The derision will stop on the very day that a "report" of a UFO sighting has any more credibility than sightings of angels dancing on the head of a pin.

This is clearly just a load of crap thought up by some bored (or stoned) employees.

Just think about it for a millisecond, all the thousands of people at the airport who didn't see it, yet one of the guys who "saw" the "UFO" was at the time parking a plane. Don't you think he might have been looking where he was going while in charge of several million dollars worth of equipment?

Anyone giving credence to this rubbish ought to be posting on a UFO forum, not here.
 
Diogenes said:
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Definitely manipulated image..

Ditto ..




Here is a zoomed in crop ..



http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/vbimghost.php?do=displayimg&imgid=3444


Of course God, or aliens could make objects, that when photographed, appear to be amateur Photo Shop'ed jobs...
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I personally see no reason to believe that first image was photoshopped, and, if it was taken on the date in question, it easily explains what was seen. Check the link in my previous post, and you'll see that clouds can make some amazing shapes, including discs.

The image seems to be in good resolution (a rarity in these cases!), and the fuzziness of the object would be consistent with a cloud. No need to think it was edited, just missinterpreted.
 
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meg said:
Hi Crazycowbob,

Yeah. I think it looks like a lenticular cloud, too. (Way cool pictures on that funtigo.com site, btw).

However, I'm quite sure that blob of what ever it is was photoshopped into this photo from wikipedia:

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Ah, hadn't seen that image, yeah, you're probably right then. You'd figure they'd find a better picture of a UFO if they were going to go through all the trouble of photoshopping it lol!
 
Crazycowbob said:
I personally see no reason to believe that first image was photoshopped, and, if it was taken on the date in question, it easily explains what was seen. Check the link in my previous post, and you'll see that clouds can make some amazing shapes, including discs.

The image seems to be in good resolution (a rarity in these cases!), and the fuzziness of the object would be consistent with a cloud. No need to think it was edited, just missinterpreted.
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Well, if you read Meg's post, I think it strongly suggests that someone invested in an Adobe product.

EDIT: Nevermind, I hadn't gotten down to the end of the posts. Sorry.
 
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Crazycowbob said:
I personally see no reason to believe that first image was photoshopped, and, if it was taken on the date in question, it easily explains what was seen. Check the link in my previous post, and you'll see that clouds can make some amazing shapes, including discs.

The image seems to be in good resolution (a rarity in these cases!), and the fuzziness of the object would be consistent with a cloud. No need to think it was edited, just missinterpreted.
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Actually, if you zoom in on the first image you can see that the texture of the UFO doesn’t match the rest of the image..

It is what you see when you paste a high resolution sprite onto a low resolution background..


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It may very well be a lenticular cloud. 'Just didn't occur in the context as shown ..
 
Why thank you, Atheist :)

For what it's worth, as a former air traffic controller, I doubt very much that the airline workers were trying to deliberately hoax anyone. Nor do I suspect they were stoned. If I were to guess, I'd say they saw some weird cloud, shadow, or smoke formation that near dusk, from their exact angle, with a low cloud deck just appeared to be some kind of solid disc shaped thing. One possibility might be some kind of hanging remnant from the wingtip vortices from a heavy jet. Here's a very cool picture of that sort of thing http://www.airliners.net/open.file/1091105/M/ , if you're interested. Another possibility might be a ring cloud. Over the years I've seen many bizarre cloud formations, many strange weather phenomena, and many times I've looked at aircraft from a certain angle, or through a heat haze, or with sunlight reflecting on them in a strange way, and thought I saw something different than what I was really looking at.

So I don't blame the airline workers for reporting what they saw. I think they probably believed they really saw something and were genuinely concerned about it.

The UFOers, on the other hand, that decided to "bump up" the story with faked photos... well, I can only assume that they're not really interested in finding the truth if they'll do something like that.
 
meg said:
The UFOers, on the other hand, that decided to "bump up" the story with faked photos... well, I can only assume that they're not really interested in finding the truth if they'll do something like that.
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Too true, though it still just blows my mind that they'd photoshop in a cloud of all things...

Ah well, no one said these were the best and brightest.

That vortex picture was awesome BTW! I love seeing all the cool things that happen in they sky, and I've seen a lot of cool things, no need for little green men to spice it up. :)
 
The Atheist said:
The derision will stop on the very day that a "report" of a UFO sighting has any more credibility than sightings of angels dancing on the head of a pin.

This is clearly just a load of crap thought up by some bored (or stoned) employees.

Just think about it for a millisecond, all the thousands of people at the airport who didn't see it, yet one of the guys who "saw" the "UFO" was at the time parking a plane. Don't you think he might have been looking where he was going while in charge of several million dollars worth of equipment?

Anyone giving credence to this rubbish ought to be posting on a UFO forum, not here.
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Top quality argument. Well done.
 
And just to be clear about the photo. Of course it's a fake. However, it's not a cloud that's been pasted in, it's simply a single pen stroke painted onto the copied photo. I can even tell you the pen settings they used.
 
meg said:
Why thank you, Atheist :)
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You are most welcome!
meg said:
For what it's worth, as a former air traffic controller, I doubt very much that the airline workers were trying to deliberately hoax anyone. Nor do I suspect they were stoned. If I were to guess, I'd say they saw some weird cloud, shadow, or smoke formation that near dusk, from their exact angle, with a low cloud deck just appeared to be some kind of solid disc shaped thing.
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Again, I'm sure you're right - I just get thoroughly annoyed with people who see something odd and immediately jump to the least likely conclusions, especially when they give lie to themselves with claims like, "I'm a really scientific person." then don't even consider the likely optical or meteorological illusions, but go straight to, "Oh my god! A UFO!"
 
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