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UFO over O'Hare

Huntster said:
Were they spaceships filled with little green men?

I'm "highly skeptical" of that.

But I don't know. So I'm not going to make a fool of myself saying that I do.
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Ok, I'll buy that.

I was a bit worried that you were off to Area 51, or whatever number it is.

I figure that if the little green men are smart enough to travel the billions of miles to Earth, they'd most likely say hi while they were here.
 
I know it's generally accepted now that UFO (aliens) believers are crazy. I know in the USA it's a pretty common thing to believe you've been abducted. Maybe people really want to be special, so much so they crave the attention they receive when making such a claim.

However they could be right, and one day all the skeptics will be eating their hats in preparation for when the flying saucer lands, and they come and eat our brains.

Who knows? Well you would think the government did, and they keep telling us that they don't. But you would also think they would have a legitimate explanation for such occurances, and would be able to convince the people what they really are.

If someone could explain the phenomena, and replicate it, then I would be totally convinced that it isn't aliens visiting. Whilst they cannot, I am open to believe it is: a funny cloud, someones funky frisbee, birds carrying a trash can lid, aliens in their space ship, military test craft, a prankster having fun at the gullible peoples expense.. and so on.

You can't discredit something whilst you have nothing to back it up, and vice versa.

I'm not a firm believer of the existence of extraterrestrials who our visiting our world, but I am open to the idea. It is feasible, however unlikely.

If you said to anyone 100 years ago that we would have space stations and regular trips to planets in our system, they would think your are crazy. One day, maybe, something will come visit us, and realise how technologically inferior we are.
 
Trig said:
I know it's generally accepted now that UFO (aliens) believers are crazy. I know in the USA it's a pretty common thing to believe you've been abducted. Maybe people really want to be special, so much so they crave the attention they receive when making such a claim.

However they could be right, and one day all the skeptics will be eating their hats in preparation for when the flying saucer lands, and they come and eat our brains.

Who knows? Well you would think the government did, and they keep telling us that they don't. But you would also think they would have a legitimate explanation for such occurances, and would be able to convince the people what they really are.

If someone could explain the phenomena, and replicate it, then I would be totally convinced that it isn't aliens visiting. Whilst they cannot, I am open to believe it is: a funny cloud, someones funky frisbee, birds carrying a trash can lid, aliens in their space ship, military test craft, a prankster having fun at the gullible peoples expense.. and so on.

You can't discredit something whilst you have nothing to back it up, and vice versa.

I'm not a firm believer of the existence of extraterrestrials who our visiting our world, but I am open to the idea. It is feasible, however unlikely.

If you said to anyone 100 years ago that we would have space stations and regular trips to planets in our system, they would think your are crazy. One day, maybe, something will come visit us, and realise how technologically inferior we are.
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I agree with your views, but this particular case smells like a hoax to me, judging by the pics I linked above. There are quite a few reasons to think it's a hoax, some of them have been mentioned before, but the most compelling to me is that there are tens of pictures of the kind already proven to be hoaxes.

Anyway, I'd love to be proven wrong ....
 
Trig said:
I know it's generally accepted now that UFO (aliens) believers are crazy. I know in the USA it's a pretty common thing to believe you've been abducted. Maybe people really want to be special, so much so they crave the attention they receive when making such a claim.
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That, and I think the anal probes are a big selling point.
Trig said:
However they could be right, and one day all the skeptics will be eating their hats in preparation for when the flying saucer lands, and they come and eat our brains.
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Mmmm, fricasseed brains.
Trig said:
Who knows? Well you would think the government did, and they keep telling us that they don't. But you would also think they would have a legitimate explanation for such occurances, and would be able to convince the people what they really are.
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Look, I know your government has the odd problem - Iraq, North Korea, an imbecile as President, but inability to explain hoaxes, hysteria and downright lunacy shouldn't really count against them
Trig said:
If someone could explain the phenomena, and replicate it, then I would be totally convinced that it isn't aliens visiting. Whilst they cannot, I am open to believe it is: a funny cloud, someones funky frisbee, birds carrying a trash can lid, aliens in their space ship, military test craft, a prankster having fun at the gullible peoples expense.. and so on.
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Same applies - if you want to replicate the deal, try 3 or 4 days on a savia divornum and don't have any sleep. That should put your brain into the same mush-like state as UFO abductees.
Trig said:
You can't discredit something whilst you have nothing to back it up, and vice versa.
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You can't discredit delusions? Well, you can, it's just difficult because the people with the delusions don't usually realise they're deluded. It's like debunking god - it's very hard to disprove a non-existent entity. Try disproving the existence of the Tooth Fairy while you're at it.
Trig said:
I'm not a firm believer of the existence of extraterrestrials who our visiting our world, but I am open to the idea. It is feasible, however unlikely.
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Now you're onto it - of course it's possible. I'd personally love to meet a couple. Hitching a ride back with them is an attractive idea.
Trig said:
If you said to anyone 100 years ago that we would have space stations and regular trips to planets in our system, they would think your are crazy. One day, maybe, something will come visit us, and realise how technologically inferior we are.
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Not sure that's correct, actually, early sci-fi dealt with this sort of thing right back to the 1600s
Imaginary voyages to the moon in the 17th century, first in Johannes Kepler's Somnium (The Dream, 1634), and then in Cyrano de Bergerac's Comical History of the States and Empires of the Moon (1656). Space travel also figures prominently in Voltaire's Micromégas (1752).
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Yes, but this was science fiction right? and ufo's and aliens are science fiction now right? I stand by my original point.

I just think its unfair to dismiss everything at the glance of the content, and from what I have viewed throughtout these boards, I see alot of peoples 5 word posts, or posts that just state 'BULLSH*T'.
 
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The Atheist said:
Originally Posted by Huntster
Were they spaceships filled with little green men?

I'm "highly skeptical" of that.

But I don't know. So I'm not going to make a fool of myself saying that I do.
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Ok, I'll buy that.

I was a bit worried that you were off to Area 51, or whatever number it is.
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I always wanted to go there, just to screw with security..........

.....you know; get painted up and crawl up to good optical range, just to see if they'd catch me.

I figure that if the little green men are smart enough to travel the billions of miles to Earth, they'd most likely say hi while they were here.
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Maybe not.

We might not be "friendly natives."
 
Huntster said:
I always wanted to go there, just to screw with security..........

.....you know; get painted up and crawl up to good optical range, just to see if they'd catch me.
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Nah, they'd just think you were Santa checking out for new propulsion to replace the reindeer.
Huntster said:
Maybe not.

We might not be "friendly natives."
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True. They might realise that shoot first is a good option!
 
The Atheist said:
Originally Posted by Huntster
I always wanted to go there, just to screw with security..........

.....you know; get painted up and crawl up to good optical range, just to see if they'd catch me.
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Nah, they'd just think you were Santa checking out for new propulsion to replace the reindeer.
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Ho, ho, ho!
 
The first picture looks nothing at all like the second picture.
The second picture looks very much like a lenticular cloud.
I have no idea what might create a low-level wave condition around O'Hare.
 
At approximately 16:30 p.m. (Central) on Tuesday, November 07, 2006, Federal authorities at O'Hare Airport received a report that approximately a dozen witnesses were observing a small, round disc-shaped object, metallic in appearance, which hovered over Gate C17 at that airport.
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It's 1,900 feet in the air, but it's "over Gate C17"?

At the end of that time, the object was seen to suddenly accelerate straight up at a very rapid pace, and it "shot" through the solid overcast, which was at 1,900 feet at the time. The witness added that the object appeared to leave a "hole" in the clouds, where it had streaked upwards through the overcast.
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Aha, first it was low, then it shot up through the clouds, leaving a hole. Sounds like shadow effects of lenticular clouds.

we observed a dark gray hazy round object hovering over head C Terminal and holding very steady and near the cloud cover.
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Now it's up at 1,900 feet but "over head C Terminal."

~~ Paul
 
I don't understand where those two photos came from. The second one is 100% unquestionably fake. Not only that it was faked by someone totally unfamiliar with photography and digital manipulation.

The first one may or may not be fake, but it is certainly not a photo of what was described. There are two options ~

1) The object was very small in the original photo and was cropped and blown up for display. This sounds fine until you examine the extreme gradient of the background sky. This would manifest almost as a sharp cut-off in the original photo and is certainly not consistent with overcast conditions. There are even defined cloud-like structures bottom left.

2) The object was large in the photograph. However, witnesses said clearly that this was not so.

Therefore, as relates to this event, they are bogus.

If these photos are genuinely related to the reports then I'm afraid the whole thing is a fake. If not, the report is quite interesting (despite the somewhat childish derision it received from some quarters)
 
latent aaaack said:
I can't think of a paranormal phenomenon with less potential ramifications than aliens that are impossible to prove or learn anything about.
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I thought of this a bit, and I now change some of my argument--

The fact is: seeing a real UFO could be absolutely terrifying to a lot of people, both religious and atheist alike.

Some might take it lightly. Others would be un-nerved, but they'd still handle it maturely... Still, many folks would just freak out and "lose it".

So clinging to one's religion, whether or not they believed strongly, might be the right reaction for someone scared s--tless.
 
American said:
I thought of this a bit, and I now change some of my argument--

The fact is: seeing a real UFO could be absolutely terrifying to a lot of people, both religious and atheist alike.

Some might take it lightly. Others would be un-nerved, but they'd still handle it maturely... Still, many folks would just freak out and "lose it".

So clinging to one's religion, whether or not they believed strongly, might be the right reaction for someone scared s--tless.
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I wonder how many people would get really frightened about something like an alien visitation. That has always been the excuse the UFO CT'ers have used to explain why the government would hide the fact that UFOs have visited the Earth. To me, I don't think the majority of the world's population would be that freaked out about it. At least in an overly frightened manner.

I think the majority of people who would think it a fantastic, life-changing experience. And I would suspect that some fundamentalist religions would go into convulsions and among the rest of the more woo-centric believers there would spring up a plethora of new religions based on whatever showed up on our doorstep.

Of course, in our limited, earthly experience, there has never been a peaceful meeting between a highly technologically advanced culture and a lesser one. Therefore, if a flying saucer did show up one day, the love would probably be short-lived until the lasers start flying. That's another reason I don't think that we have been visited by aliens to date, I am not currently reporting to my new alien overlord.
 
Calling all cars! UFO at O'Hare!

It was obviously here before to pick up the goods from Al Capone's vault, and replace it with the mud and dirt that Geraldo Rivera found.

Now, it's back for a follow-up.

:)
 
At approximately 16:30 p.m. (Central) on Tuesday, November 07, 2006, Federal authorities at O'Hare Airport received a report that approximately a dozen witnesses were observing a small, round disc-shaped object, metallic in appearance, which hovered over Gate C17 at that airport.
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Only a dozen people saw this?? At O'Hare airport one of the busiest airport in the US? In broad daylight? During peak traffic hours? There must have been hundreds if not thousands of people within visual range of this "phenomena" and yet only a handful of people reported seeing this? Now there's solid evidence for you! :rolleyes:
 
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