This is the thread that may very well change the way you look at 9/11 FOREVER!

[Spindrift]

I dawt a daw a putty cat...a big bwack putty cat.

Finally! Something that we can verify as true!

I know it's a small first step, but please continue.

Next step: Please show us the thermite device that cuts vertical beams.

 

[rwguinn]

Ever seen one of these oh great one ?

http://images.orgill.com/200x200/9566886.jpg

Try and figure out what it is and what it is used for.

Oh! OOh! (jumps up and down repeatedly) I Know! Ask ME!

and as for the title of this thread:
"Upon further review, the laws of physics stand as called. 28th P'doh clone is charged a time-out"

 

[28th Kingdom]

They're too tall to CD, so the conspirators used CD to take them down?

Of course, that makes sense!

One of the main goals of a CD is to NOT damage surrounding buildings...do you see my point? These things wrecked have the city's air space.

 

[Horatius]

Well you might fly, but the rest of us sane people know instinctively that anything heavier than air which is not a bird, insect or winged mammal (you have to be careful on this board!) cannot fly!!

You forgot Fish. You Fail!

 

[Architect]

He won't answer, mate. He doesn't do REAL answers.


YOOO HOOO, 28TH! WHERE'S THAT TECHNICAL RESPONSE?

 

[defaultdotxbe]

And, when...on the video we've all watched a 1000 times...did the buildings decide to throw a cinch around it's waist? 3-4 Don't you think those images are a bit over-the-top (embellished )and cartoon-like?

they are a bit overdrawn because of the scale, but it doesnt change that there was significant bowing of the perimeter columns

 

[rwguinn]

I'd do this fanny a proper technical explanation, but he'd just ignore it like to nutter he is.

Apologies for reaking the decorum rules; blame it on the Naproxsyn (sp?)

Usually it takes more than Naproxin to get me that way. I need at least Percoset...

And the proper technical explanations have been made, numerous times.28th clone is just hoping we've forgotten...

 

[volatile]

One of the main goals of a CD is to NOT damage surrounding buildings...do you see my point?

No...

These things wrecked have the city's air space.

Maybe I don't because that's not even a real sentence.

 

[Spindrift]

One of the main goals of a CD is to NOT damage surrounding buildings...do you see my point? These things wrecked have the city's air space.

What point? That they didn't use CD? That point I saw a long time ago.

 

[28th Kingdom]

Clearly over 14 seconds.
http://911research.wtc7.net/wtc/evidence/videos/ntc_frames.html

Also see http://www.911myths.com/html/freefall.html

NIST estimated the elapsed times for the first exterior panels to strike the ground after the collapse initiated in each of the towers to be approximately 11 seconds for WTC 1 and approximately 9 seconds for WTC 2.

Are you saying NIST is wrong? More importantly....are you saying 300 of the world's top experts are liars? And MOST importantly....are you saying NIST are murderers?

 

[JonnyFive]

One of the main goals of a CD is to NOT damage surrounding buildings...do you see my point?

I sure don't. So the point was not to damage other buildings, yet it caused massive damage to the other buildings in the complex. Did you actually see the site shortly after the attacks? It's not like the buildings just came down neat and tidy.

These things wrecked have the city's air space.

What the hell does this mean? I'm assuming you mean "half", but I don't get the point. They were unsightly so "they" blew up the buildings?

 

[defaultdotxbe]

NIST estimated the elapsed times for the first exterior panels to strike the ground after the collapse initiated in each of the towers to be approximately 11 seconds for WTC 1 and approximately 9 seconds for WTC 2.

Are you saying NIST is wrong? More importantly....are you saying 300 of the world's top experts are liars? And MOST importantly....are you saying NIST are murderers?

no, he saying the first panels struck the ground quite a bit before the bulk of the collapse section did, just look how much faster the debris is falling than the towers themselves:

 

[T.A.M.]

If you are not a sock puppet for PDoherty76, than you should meet him online, because your attitude and demeanor is nearly identical to his.

Once again, the overwhelming kinetic energy created by the dynamic load of the floors above the impact zones made the resistance of the floors below almost negligible, so saith NIST, and hence the reason for why the towers fell in NEAR free fall time. Do you disagree with this, and if so where is your scientific proof to prove it wrong. Since their opinion is based on the cummulative knowledge of hundreds of engineers and scientists I would trust their word and opinions over one or two uneducated (in the field of relevence) any day.

TAM

 

[JonnyFive]

Are you saying NIST is wrong? More importantly....are you saying 300 of the world's top experts are liars? And MOST importantly....are you saying NIST are murderers?

Those seem to be the things that you are saying.

There is some variation in estimates on the fall time, because it's difficult to measure precisely. So what? As many, many people have pointed out, controlled demolition doesn't suddenly accelerate a building faster than gravity. So the fall speed of the towers means nothing one way or the other.

Got any evidence that thermite can cut vertical beams?

 

[Skibum]

NIST estimated the elapsed times for the first exterior panels to strike the ground after the collapse initiated in each of the towers to be approximately 11 seconds for WTC 1 and approximately 9 seconds for WTC 2.

Think about that sentence for a second, you ought to be able to see whats wrong with your line of thinking.

 

[babazaroni]

NIST estimated the elapsed times for the first exterior panels to strike the ground after the collapse initiated in each of the towers to be approximately 11 seconds for WTC 1 and approximately 9 seconds for WTC 2.

Are you saying NIST is wrong? More importantly....are you saying 300 of the world's top experts are liars? And MOST importantly....are you saying NIST are murderers?

So the first debris hits the ground after 9 and 11 seconds.

What about the rest of the debris?

 

[28th Kingdom]

Could anyone more versed in this stuff (even you, 28k!) explain to me why there even needed to have been a demolition, given that two whacking great jumbos did hit the towers?

Easy...look at the 1993 bombing of the WTC (FBI caught red-handed with involvement) a few people died but did it have the type of earth-shattering time-standing-still impact as 9/11? Absolutely not. People really...weren't even freaking out until the buildings came down.

IN the PNAC...they clearly state...that in order for them to get American to move in direction they want to see the country go...it would either take years for this transformation...or it would take a CATASTROPHE...like a New Pearl Harbor.

 

[beachnut]

"In other words, the momentum (which equals mass times velocity) of the 12 to 28 stories (WTC 1 and WTC 2, respectively) falling on the supporting structure below (which was designed to support only the static weight of the floors above and not any dynamic effects due to the downward momentum) so greatly exceeded the strength capacity of the structure below that it (the structure below) was unable to stop or even to slow the falling mass. The downward momentum felt by each successive lower floor was even larger due to the increasing mass."

Increasing mass? Huh, so WAIT A MINUTE...they are claiming some kind of pancake collapse. I CALL FRAUD!

You are a fraud, you photo is a lie, you facts are not availible?

Thermite, show us the proof, the real original not copied from CT site stuff.

 

[Kent1]

NIST estimated the elapsed times for the first exterior panels to strike the ground after the collapse initiated in each of the towers to be approximately 11 seconds for WTC 1 and approximately 9 seconds for WTC 2.

Are you saying NIST is wrong? More importantly....are you saying 300 of the world's top experts are liars? And MOST importantly....are you saying NIST are murderers?

Did NIST say the full collapse took 9 and 11 seconds? No.
The rest.....insane gibberish

Also better read this part again from your own post
"From video evidence, significant portions of the cores of both buildings (roughly 60 stories of WTC 1 and 40 stories of WTC 2) are known to have stood 15 to 25 seconds after collapse initiation before they, too, began to collapse."

 

[maccy]

Easy...look at the 1993 bombing of the WTC (FBI caught red-handed with involvement) a few people died but did it have the type of earth-shattering time-standing-still impact as 9/11? Absolutely not. People really...weren't even freaking out until the buildings came down.

IN the PNAC...they clearly state...that in order for them to get American to move in direction they want to see the country go...it would either take years for this transformation...or it would take a CATASTROPHE...like a New Pearl Harbor.

So the PNAC were running things in Clinton's time as well?

That must be why he spent all that money on advanced miltary hardware and missile defence then.