Another one bites the dust!
I've looked and I can't find a single explanation, so please enlight me.
Not one person has still yet explain how it is IMPOSSIBLE, how could it have been flight UA93. I have read previous posts and as I stated, the only thing I can work out is that Norman is lying or he got the times wrongs. Yet I have explained EXACTLY how it was possible and how is statement makes sense. As I stated again in a previous post, it could not have been later than he had said.
I never said where this information was coming from, I don't suppose we will ever no, but obviously somebody was tracking something unless you think Mineta was lying under oath? So I would be glad to hear why you think Mineta would lie about such a thing and why he hasn't been charged with perjury for lying?
Cheney was heard by the commission in private, yet no explanation has EVER been given as to Minetas testimony. That Mineta is a right liar you know oh and he has a problem telling the time.
Funny thing is, I'm sure because of the strange events, Mineta would know roughly where he was that day and at what time?
As I explained in my previous post, it COULD NOT have been flight UA 93.
I never said they were, all I've used is Minetas testimony. Mineta never said this chap was USSS or anything. All he knows now is that it must have been flight AA77, which again fits within Minetas time of events and makes him only mintues out. (See previous post of this)
Yes we are aware that they were given the order after the attacks had finished. The plane they intercepted was in fact a Helicopter. The 9/11 Commission paints a picture of incompetence and confusion that still makes it seem possible that Mineta witnessed the young man and Cheney discussing United 93 or a medevac helicopter or some combination thereof.
2 Planes had already crashed in WTC and they were nervous about a shoot down order? How did you come up with that conclusion? I keep here from the skeptic that I come up my conclusions, yet you do the same things.
UA93 is tracked closer and closer to what? If you are relating this "50 miles out" please explain how you come to this conclusion as I've read the previous posts and yet no one as explained it.
Cheney Nervous?? Oh Really...Your conslusion is based on what again? Here is something that will totally blow your arguement out of the water!
"9/11 Commission Report:
At 10:02, the communicators in the shelter began receiving reports from the Secret Service of an inbound aircraft-presumably hijacked-heading toward Washington. That aircraft was United 93.The Secret Service was getting this information directly from the FAA. The FAA may have been tracking the progress of United 93 on a display that showed its projected path to Washington, not its actual radar return. Thus, the Secret Service was relying on projections and was not aware the plane was already down in Pennsylvania.217
At some time between 10:10 and 10:15, a military aide told the Vice President and others that the aircraft was 80 miles out. Vice President Cheney was asked for authority to engage the aircraft.218 His reaction was described by Scooter Libby as quick and decisive, "in about the time it takes a batter to decide to swing." The Vice President authorized fighter aircraft to engage the inbound plane. He told us he based this authorization on his earlier conversation with the President. The military aide returned a few minutes later, probably between 10:12 and 10:18, and said the aircraft was 60 miles out. He again asked for authorization to engage. The Vice President again said yes.219 "
Does that sound like a nervous Dick Cheney?? Unless Libby is also a liar...Actually I'll retract that!!
It appears everyone is lying about poor old Dick Cheney!
I could laugh at you here. Talk about misinformation. The flight he was refering too was AA77 that hit the Pentagon.
Mineta did not know about UA93 until it had crashed in Penslyania. Here is another insert from his testimony about "Oh My God, Did We Shoot It Down" reaction that you refer too. Read the bottom for proof.
"9/11 Commission Hearings
MR. MINETA: And so I was not aware that that discussion had already taken place. But in listening to the conversation between the young man and the vice president, then at the time I didn't really recognize the significance of that.
And then later I heard of the fact that the airplanes had been scrambled from Langley to come up to DC, but those planes were still about 10 minutes away. And so then, at the time we heard about the airplane that went into Pennsylvania, then I thought, "Oh, my God, did we shoot it down?" And then we had to, with the vice president, go through the Pentagon to check that out.
MR. HAMILTON: Let me see if I understand. The plane that was headed toward the Pentagon and was some miles away, there was an order to shoot that plane down.
MR. MINETA: Well, I don't know that specifically, but I do know that the airplanes were scrambled from Langley or from Norfolk, the Norfolk area. But I did not know about the orders specifically other than listening to that other conversation.
MR. HAMILTON: But there very clearly was an order to shoot commercial aircraft down.
MR. MINETA: Subsequently I found that out.
MR. HAMILTON: With respect to Flight 93, what type of information were you and the vice president receiving about that flight?
MR. MINETA: The only information we had at that point was when it crashed.
MR. HAMILTON: I see. You didn't know beforehand about that airplane.
MR. MINETA: I did not.
Hmm....Sorry have I misunderstood something.
So in conclusion.
1) Mineta could not have been out by 40-60 minute. He claimed he came in about 9:20, (You are saying he arrived at PEOC about 10:00-10:20am
) so if he was out timewise as you say and have supposedly proved then he would not have:-
A) Heard about the plane crashing into the Pentagon...It would have already have happened. Pentagon Crashes at 9:37:46am
B) Would not have heard any conversation about 50 miles out etc...because the attacks were over unless he is lying of course.
2) Breaches of Science?? What BREACHES?? You have not shown me a single breach of science yet? Infact I have proven in my previous posts how Minetas testimony ACTUALLY adds up. Minetas time line is only wrong by a few mintues.
Yes it involves the Goverment and don't think the Goverment is not evil, remember the EPA annoucement days after the attacks telling people the air was safe, even though they knew it contained Asbestos. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3076626/
I'll look forward to hearing your comments...
I've looked and I can't find a single explanation, so please enlight me.
Not one person has still yet explain how it is IMPOSSIBLE, how could it have been flight UA93. I have read previous posts and as I stated, the only thing I can work out is that Norman is lying or he got the times wrongs. Yet I have explained EXACTLY how it was possible and how is statement makes sense. As I stated again in a previous post, it could not have been later than he had said.
I never said where this information was coming from, I don't suppose we will ever no, but obviously somebody was tracking something unless you think Mineta was lying under oath? So I would be glad to hear why you think Mineta would lie about such a thing and why he hasn't been charged with perjury for lying?
Cheney was heard by the commission in private, yet no explanation has EVER been given as to Minetas testimony. That Mineta is a right liar you know oh and he has a problem telling the time.
Funny thing is, I'm sure because of the strange events, Mineta would know roughly where he was that day and at what time?
As I explained in my previous post, it COULD NOT have been flight UA 93.
I never said they were, all I've used is Minetas testimony. Mineta never said this chap was USSS or anything. All he knows now is that it must have been flight AA77, which again fits within Minetas time of events and makes him only mintues out. (See previous post of this)
Yes we are aware that they were given the order after the attacks had finished. The plane they intercepted was in fact a Helicopter. The 9/11 Commission paints a picture of incompetence and confusion that still makes it seem possible that Mineta witnessed the young man and Cheney discussing United 93 or a medevac helicopter or some combination thereof.
2 Planes had already crashed in WTC and they were nervous about a shoot down order? How did you come up with that conclusion? I keep here from the skeptic that I come up my conclusions, yet you do the same things.
UA93 is tracked closer and closer to what? If you are relating this "50 miles out" please explain how you come to this conclusion as I've read the previous posts and yet no one as explained it.
Cheney Nervous?? Oh Really...Your conslusion is based on what again? Here is something that will totally blow your arguement out of the water!
"9/11 Commission Report:
At 10:02, the communicators in the shelter began receiving reports from the Secret Service of an inbound aircraft-presumably hijacked-heading toward Washington. That aircraft was United 93.The Secret Service was getting this information directly from the FAA. The FAA may have been tracking the progress of United 93 on a display that showed its projected path to Washington, not its actual radar return. Thus, the Secret Service was relying on projections and was not aware the plane was already down in Pennsylvania.217
At some time between 10:10 and 10:15, a military aide told the Vice President and others that the aircraft was 80 miles out. Vice President Cheney was asked for authority to engage the aircraft.218 His reaction was described by Scooter Libby as quick and decisive, "in about the time it takes a batter to decide to swing." The Vice President authorized fighter aircraft to engage the inbound plane. He told us he based this authorization on his earlier conversation with the President. The military aide returned a few minutes later, probably between 10:12 and 10:18, and said the aircraft was 60 miles out. He again asked for authorization to engage. The Vice President again said yes.219 "
Does that sound like a nervous Dick Cheney?? Unless Libby is also a liar...Actually I'll retract that!!
It appears everyone is lying about poor old Dick Cheney!
I could laugh at you here. Talk about misinformation. The flight he was refering too was AA77 that hit the Pentagon.
Mineta did not know about UA93 until it had crashed in Penslyania. Here is another insert from his testimony about "Oh My God, Did We Shoot It Down" reaction that you refer too. Read the bottom for proof.
"9/11 Commission Hearings
MR. MINETA: And so I was not aware that that discussion had already taken place. But in listening to the conversation between the young man and the vice president, then at the time I didn't really recognize the significance of that.
And then later I heard of the fact that the airplanes had been scrambled from Langley to come up to DC, but those planes were still about 10 minutes away. And so then, at the time we heard about the airplane that went into Pennsylvania, then I thought, "Oh, my God, did we shoot it down?" And then we had to, with the vice president, go through the Pentagon to check that out.
MR. HAMILTON: Let me see if I understand. The plane that was headed toward the Pentagon and was some miles away, there was an order to shoot that plane down.
MR. MINETA: Well, I don't know that specifically, but I do know that the airplanes were scrambled from Langley or from Norfolk, the Norfolk area. But I did not know about the orders specifically other than listening to that other conversation.
MR. HAMILTON: But there very clearly was an order to shoot commercial aircraft down.
MR. MINETA: Subsequently I found that out.
MR. HAMILTON: With respect to Flight 93, what type of information were you and the vice president receiving about that flight?
MR. MINETA: The only information we had at that point was when it crashed.
MR. HAMILTON: I see. You didn't know beforehand about that airplane.
MR. MINETA: I did not.
Hmm....Sorry have I misunderstood something.
So in conclusion.
1) Mineta could not have been out by 40-60 minute. He claimed he came in about 9:20, (You are saying he arrived at PEOC about 10:00-10:20am
) so if he was out timewise as you say and have supposedly proved then he would not have:-A) Heard about the plane crashing into the Pentagon...It would have already have happened. Pentagon Crashes at 9:37:46am
B) Would not have heard any conversation about 50 miles out etc...because the attacks were over unless he is lying of course.
2) Breaches of Science?? What BREACHES?? You have not shown me a single breach of science yet? Infact I have proven in my previous posts how Minetas testimony ACTUALLY adds up. Minetas time line is only wrong by a few mintues.
Yes it involves the Goverment and don't think the Goverment is not evil, remember the EPA annoucement days after the attacks telling people the air was safe, even though they knew it contained Asbestos. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3076626/
I'll look forward to hearing your comments...
