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Bush Administration Science

jessicarabbit said:
It's nothing like LC and it will be thoroughly fact checked.
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Jessica, just yesterday you recommended Loose Change. You said I should watch it. Could your standards be any lower?

Tell you what: send your film to us for fact-checking before you release it. That will save you a lot of embarrassment. Remember, I found 426 errors in LC, including 81 errors of fact. Don't let that happen to you!
 
Usual Suspect said:
Asking Jess for HER work is kind of crazy when no one else here has done their OWN work. When are you all releasing your studies. Print or net only??
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Exactly, dude.

So, then how can any of us say anything with authority?

How do you know Iraq exists? Have you ever been there? No? Then how do you know it exists. Maybe that vision on your T.V. is just a government conceived hologram.

Moreover, why should you believe water is a molecule of two atoms of hydrogen and one atom of oxygen, merely because that's what they told you in chemistry class? A fine report, that first chapter in "Foundations in Chemistry," by Williams, Williams and Grotewold, to be sure. But I find their "research" self-serving, contrived, completely unpersuasive and laughable. Of course this means I will have to do my own independent verification. No biggie.

Look, I would bet a great deal of money that there are a great many things in this world you take "at face value." There is good sense in that. You do so because the findings were made by experts. You do so because you have no evidence to the contrary beyond "a feeling" or "an intuition."---do you? You do so because you have neither the knowledge nor faculties to independently verify every single utterance of fact in the history of the universe.


By the way, they are asking for her work because of this uninformed statement:

by jessicarabbit

Well if they have only seen footage their opinion is worthless surely.
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jessicarabbit said:
You make an outrageous claim that every engineer in the world agrees with the official story. Please back it up with evidence or retract it. Thanks
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That is not my claim. My claim is that not one structural engineer has published an article stating any of the things you claim are "obvious." They haven't spoken to any major media outlets. If they are obvious to you, they should be even more obvious to a structural engineer. If the NIST report is wrong, every engineer that watched the towers fall and has not spoken up is covering up murder and complicit in this conspiracy. That idea is beyond absurd.

People posting in this very thread have access to classified information, have been in the military, have worked at government laboratories, and witnessed the terrorist attacks first hand. They're good people. I know they would fly off the handle if they saw even a shred of evidence for this conspiracy. They would talk to the media. They would talk to their friends. They wouldn't rest until something was done about it. But you implicate them as well with your nonsense.

Our government has done evil things. Our government is doing evil things. The Bush administration is responsible for evil things. 9/11 is not one of those things. Your raving about phantoms distracts from the very real evil, and blunts criticism against it.
 
Jessica,

Try not to be so parochial. I know it's a common problem with those on the CT side of things but honestly, the US is not the whole world.

Just as climate change is a global issue and is studied by scientists from around the world, so is the collapse of the WTC towers.

Engineers NEED to know why those buggers cames down because their professional integrity (not to mention their PI insurance) depends on knowing.

Even if every scientist in america was corrupt and in the pocket of the admin, you would be hearing a chorus of opinion from the international community objecting to the official version of 9/11 just as there is a global scientific consensus regarding AGW

http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?postid=2051223#post2051223
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So where's the 9/11 equivalent of Realclimate.org or Talkorigins.org?

And please don't say the bloody 'scholars'...I mean a science website by scientists who specialise in the field of study and who want to counter the 'lies' of the US govt scientists about 9/11.

In fact I would place the 'scholars' in the same box as the Oregon Petition...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oregon_Petition
 
So...

When the scientist says stuff you agree with, it's all okie-dokey.

But when the scientist says stuff you DISagree with, they're a gubmint shill and so it's all crap.

Correct, Jessica?
 
Zep said:
So...

When the scientist says stuff you agree with, it's all okie-dokey.

But when the scientist says stuff you DISagree with, they're a gubmint shill and so it's all crap.

Correct, Jessica?
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Its hardly likely that the government will pressure scientists to believe in a conspiracy theory. I think they might want to keep it secret. Is that the best you can do? Is the kind of incise intellectualism I started this post for?
 
quixotecoyote said:
My money's on you getting banned if you try spamming the board.
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I'm not doing that. Just wonder why 3 good posts with good facts in another thread went ignored. This happen to me the other day but then it was me who got labelled as the one ignoring facts and dodging questions. OH well. I don't want to spam so I'm out.
 
T.A.M. said:
make a living yes...no doubt. I know a few professional FILM MAKERS who do, and I know some who don't. That is what they do...that is their career. I also know, that most of them would be repulsed to find that some of their colleagues were making money off of the tragedy of 9/11.
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I'm into professional Film/Tv making and I'm repulsed.
 
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