Kevin_Lowe
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Well, it is still an example of being able to use the technique on an uncooporative opponent. And I never claimed that this single example was proof of anything. It is exactly what I said it was, and example of using the technique effectively against an uncooporative opponent. And it was effective. As for me knowing that I would have broken a rib, that is based on my observation of the effect the blow did have, and my knowledge of how easy it is to break the lower ribs. I have done it before accidentally, it doesn't really take much.
Uncooperative opponents in semi-contact sparring just aren't a good guide to what works and what does not work. Things work at 80% speed and power that fail at 100%.
That said, the effectiveness of the technique in practice is hardly "speculative". First of all, I would not even call it a technique. It is a mechanism for generating power, which can be used for a variety of techniques. Second, the fact that it does generate significant power is quite easy to demonstrate. The fact that this power can be generated from a dynamic position (as opposed to having to take time to carefully "line things up"), is also easy to demonstrate. Given those factors, whether or not it can be used effectively in a fight is simply a function of whether you find yourself in a situation where generating power in that way may be useful.
While this is true as far as it goes it sounds like the short power punch is competing for its niche against grappling techniques, which might just turn out to be a better option a sufficient percentage of the time to make the one inch punch a bad idea to try.
The only way to test it is to have people try it, many times, in a ring with full contact.
I disagree. Fighting with other highly skilled martial artists is what tends to "darwinise" them. You don't fight a guy in a bar swinging a bear bottle at you the same way you would fight a boxer. One of the first things a fighter learns in sparring (if his training hasn't already ingrained it into him), is how to make it very difficult for such techniques to be used against him.
There is a lot more to martial arts than just full-contact competition.
My own philosophy is that there are techniques which are relatively high percentage against competent opponents, and then there are party tricks. Techniques that are only useable on the clueless don't strike me as a good use of my training time. Your mileage may vary.
Well, my example above is such evidence. The fact that it was not full contact does not change this. Also, I am not even sure it makes sense to talk about "resisting" for this type of thing. I am not talking about a hold or throw here, nor about a joint-lock. Nor am I talking about some sophisticated nerve strike or balance disrupting technique. I am talking about punching somebody hard enough to cause damage. If I can demonstrate that the punch is hard enough to inflict damage, and that it can be successfully executed in a dynamic situation, then what more needs to be said? It is an effective way to generate power for a strike. Whether or not you can use it effectively depends on you, just as it does for any other way of generating power for a strike.
As for whether it has ever been used in full-contact competition, I have no idea. I don't watch full-contact competition. Then again, if it was used in such a competition, I doubt people watching would even recognize that it was. It looks like a push, and what's one more bruise after the fight is over?
While I respect your opinion enormously in other areas, I think in this one you really should make a point of watching some full-contact competition so you can see what it is actually like. If you have not done so then your knowledge of what works and what doesn't in terms of unarmed combat is stuck in the eighties. The world of martial arts has undergone a revolution since then, and if you take MA seriously as a hobby you have some catching up to do.
Believe me if the top competitors in MMA had an inkling that another fighter had a neat technique they could win fights with, be it short power or anything else, they would be watching that person's fights over and over again in slow motion to figure out what it was, how they did it and how to counter it.