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Loose Change - Part IV

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Because, my very inquisitive friend, they didn't need to. Only someone ignorant of the physics involved would call the "official" story into question and demand such a simulation be done.
As if that's going to impress me. The usual suggestion that I'm ignorant if I question this.

First, I did not demand a simulation of the collapse. I asked for a proof that the assumption that once the onset of collapse started (NISTs words) it was inevitable that it continue, is true. That need not be done by means of a simulation.

Second: if that was so obvious, then why all the discussion on Ross' and Greening's papers? It is not obvious, which is a good reason why NIST should have investigated beyond the onset and not truncated the timeline.

ETA: why do you call me "very inquisitive"? I was merely responding to a question that WildCat posed.
 
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As if that's going to impress me. The usual suggestion that I'm ignorant if I question this.

First, I did not demand a simulation of the collapse. I asked for a proof that the assumption that once the onset of collapse started (NISTs words) it was inevitable that it continue, is true. That need not be done by means of a simulation.

Second: if that was so obvious, then why all the discussion on Ross' and Greening's papers? It is not obvious, which is a good reason why NIST should have investigated beyond the onset and not truncated the timeline.

Have we found a low IQ version of Boggle? Boggle is that you pretending to be less than G.E.D. worthy? IMHO!
Two more posts till URL posting allowed! Yeah!

Please remain civil. This is a forum for discussion, not abuse.
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That's very interesting hate mail you get there, Mark. Personally, I don't understand what gets these people to that point. What the hell did you do to them that you didn't tell us ?

It's because I hit the mainstream, to some extent.

The people who believe these theories tend to be lousy readers or don't explore their optiion. But holy crap, if it's in video format, then they are willing to listen.

I already did Screw Loose Change, which caused a dent into the community along with some praises from firefighters and police officers on 9/11, thanking me for pointing the facts to some family members victims saying "I never knew that!". I got more then just hate mail.

I didn't want to repeat the same stuff, since with facts, the truth movement is already dead. The only people remaining in the movement are people for political agenda: Alex Jones' right wing libertarian, to Dylan Avery's "Chomsky is my HERO" political side. How do they push their agenda? Character assassination in video format.

So I'm merely fighting fire with fire, only using their own words instead of making stuff up, and it's having a great impact so far.
 
That's very interesting hate mail you get there, Mark. Personally, I don't understand what gets these people to that point. What the hell did you do to them that you didn't tell us ?


Thats easy: I call it the "Broken Toy" syndrom. It works basically like this:

*Clears throat and starts speaking just like Stephen Fry from Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy*

Person A have a toy (in this case the belief in Saint Avery)

Person B decides to break said toy (in this case show what a dickwad mentioned Saint Avery is and how much of an ilusion his "documentary" is)

Person A starts bawling and stamping his wittle feet in the ground while demanding that the "Big Mean Person A" puts the toy back together. (In this case Person B retracting the truth).

Person B, whom actually lives on planet Earth with his feet firmly anchored in this little thing we like to call "Reality", of cause denies this.

Person A, whom probably still have pimples, lives in his mothers basement and lack the proper problemsolving skills for some obscure reason, starts stamping those cute little feet even harder in the ground and refuses to see that his toy were in reality an illusion which are better of destroyed and decides to call his Big Brothe with the Tommygun. ("We the people").

Unfortunately Big Brother is busy, probably burning cross's and "Sieg Heilen" at some gathering constructed to inflate Big Brothers head even more, so Person A decides to try it himself, unfortunately unmasking himself as a person with really big reality problems as Person A doesn't expect Person B to actually have a backbone and better problemsolving skills (Here that would be contemplating what to do and wether or not to involve the Feds etc.)

Now Person A is in a bind since he doesn't have one iota of a clue about what to do while Person B can sit down with a nice cold one in complete reasurance that Person A will never gather the nescessary braincells to carry though the threats due to Persons A's brain being stuck on "Temper Tantrum" like a hamster stuck in a hamster wheel.

Just like a child in a sandbox with a broke toy keeps carrying on untill a responsible adult breaks though the repetitions of "You big Bad Meanie" by promising a new, more shining toy ( in this case: A new CT).
 
I would think you could contact the police, or you could post what happened over at LC, and demand a public apology, or that if you don't get one, you will be going to the authorities, and will procecute them to the fullest extent of the law.
 
Revisionist history - you can unring the bell!

well, loonybin and Dylan both agree, the Albany thread was a dead-end.

And I got an apology from Mr. Avery and the posting of my ID deleted.

The young man may yet have a capacity for learning. The hard way, I admit, but learning.

We shall see.

http://s15.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?showtopic=9604&st=90#entry6512770

See bottom of Page 4...

Now, even the title of the thread has changed!

WTC Boxes Not Found

Do-Over Do Over!
 
Now, even the title of the thread has changed!

WTC Boxes Not Found

Do-Over Do Over!
I subtly pointed out to him in my last post in that thread how easily this could've been checked. With any luck, one or two lurkers over there might see how quick Dylan tends to jump the gun with "evidence" and draw their own conclusions as to how that might've effected any 'documentaries' he's released.
 
Have we found a low IQ version of Boggle? Boggle is that you pretending to be less than G.E.D. worthy? IMHO!
Two more posts till URL posting allowed! Yeah!
Look, Dog Town... I can do without the cryptic insults, OK?
 
I subtly pointed out to him in my last post in that thread how easily this could've been checked. With any luck, one or two lurkers over there might see how quick Dylan tends to jump the gun with "evidence" and draw their own conclusions as to how that might've effected any 'documentaries' he's released.


And neither "evidence" out of context is evidence, nor history out of context is history.

This is probably the closest that Dylan has ever been to any real parts of the WTC. He didn't happen to notice that the poster was in the "recovery" section - it was a guide posted to show the police who were sifting through the rubble, (you remember the rubble, the 'evidence' that was hustled away and sold?) at Great Kills - what to look for should they spot a 'black box'.

So Dylan was caught shooting his wad instead of the load, and in doing so, we've seen that the 'evidence of a crime' that was rushed out of there, truly was examined for clues. Just not in situ.

Good days work guys.

Final Cut is delayed (and shortened) again!
 
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Well, Belz, remember we had a poster who pretty much suggested nothing short of such an effort would be satisfactory.
Was that christophera ?

Oh, that's right. We'd have to build it with a concrete core, this time.
I don't think it was him, though it was, like him, not a forum regular. I'm fairly certain anyway.

Speaking of which, there's not one newcomer to the JREF who has shown any more than the most minor capacity for modification of their pre-conceived notions in the couple months since this issue has blossomed. By my guess we've seen somewhere on the order of two-dozen or so, each proven wrong time and time again. And no word of concession or admission that they were mistaken, out of their depth, or misled.

The ego is a powerful force. And at the same time fragile as can be.
 
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I would think you could contact the police, or you could post what happened over at LC, and demand a public apology, or that if you don't get one, you will be going to the authorities, and will procecute them to the fullest extent of the law.

I already sent something to the FBI, RCMP, and the HushMail company.
 
hmm, title says markyx, thread says mark roberts, wonder if they realize they are 2 different people
 
I will be on with Rob Breakenridge of AM 770, CHQR tonight at 10:05 PM Eastern Time. For those of you not fortunate enough to live in Calgary, you can listen in live here. We will be taking callers. The call-in numbers are 1-800-563-7770, or 403-974-8255. I'm hoping that Dylan sees this either here or on the blog and calls in.

I'm even MORE fortunate, I live in Edmonton. ;)

I've checked out the link, it works from up here. Not sure if it'll carry outside Alberta though.
 
Could someone please record and post the stream for those of us not able to hear it?
 
Looking at that Zany Colbert Board is soo kookie. The idiot ranting on MarkyX seems certain he is Mark Roberts. Man that kid is off the charts crazy. I think he must be seeing a whole team of shrinks. Maybe one of them will ask him to stay on his meds next time.

Happy B Day you cute puppy you!
 
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