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The world and israel tracked 140+ rockets on a trajectory from Qana into Israel.

Evidence?

If you don't hate muslims, why do you consistently paint all muslims with the same brush? Why do you work hard to come up with "explanations" that always paing the Muslim part in the worst possible light?

Will you finally admit that the residents inside were not at fault and that the Israelis did something very wrong?
 
Evidence?

If you don't hate muslims, why do you consistently paint all muslims with the same brush? Why do you work hard to come up with "explanations" that always paing the Muslim part in the worst possible light?

Will you finally admit that the residents inside were not at fault and that the Israelis did something very wrong?

I paint all extremist moslems who resort to terrorism, suicide bombing, aircraft and cruise liner hijacking, people who would gun down Olympic team members or workers in a Jewish center in Seattle or bomb the WTC with a broad brush to cover their collective butts. WHat muslims are painted in the worst possible light? Hezbollah? Hamas? Who are you defending today Larsen? Wait til the Spain to Iraq jihad hits points in between, you'll be singing a different tune.

Of course the women and children and it was only women and children who died so far (in the building with the rocket emplacements stored in its car park) in this incident were not at fault. The blame lays squarely on their so-called Hezbollah defenders who should have gotten them out instead of storing them in a building next to a rocket emplacement. This is after repeatedly being appraised by Israel that this village was going to be a bombing target.

Its interesting also that there were no reports of adult male deaths in
this building .... I guess the men were out at the time of the raid. How lucky for them.
 
I paint all extremist moslems who resort to terrorism, suicide bombing, aircraft and cruise liner hijacking, people who would gun down Olympic team members or workers in a Jewish center in Seattle or bomb the WTC with a broad brush to cover their collective butts. WHat muslims are painted in the worst possible light? Hezbollah? Hamas? Who are you defending today Larsen? Wait til the Spain to Iraq jihad hits points in between, you'll be singing a different tune.

What Muslims, you ask? How about the father of the killed child? You had no reason to claim that he had any sinister motives, but you went right ahead anyway.

He had just lost his child, Steve. What kind of person are you?

Of course the women and children and it was only women and children who died so far (in the building with the rocket emplacements stored in its car park) in this incident were not at fault. The blame lays squarely on their so-called Hezbollah defenders who should have gotten them out instead of storing them in a building next to a rocket emplacement.

Huh?? Do you have evidence of this?

Its interesting also that there were no reports of adult male deaths in this building .... I guess the men were out at the time of the raid. How lucky for them.

Yet again, you try to (falsely) paint Muslims in the worst possible light:

Israeli planes attacked an apartment house in Qana in the early hours of Sunday. The house collapsed, and rescue workers pulled the bodies of civilians, most of them women and children, out of the rubble.
Source

Does that in any way make you change your stance?

Where is your evidence that 140+ rockets were sent from Qana into Israel?
 
Larsen:

What Muslims, you ask? How about the father of the killed child? You had no reason to claim that he had any sinister motives, but you went right ahead anyway.

He had just lost his child, Steve. What kind of person are you

I think he lost much more than one child plus a great many women as well.

I am not casting any suspicion on him, I am casting it on Hezbollah. He could've been forced to order his family housed there by Hezbollah ... after all they have the guns and you would go or send your women and children where they say which in this case was a building next to a car park ...er, housing one of their rocket launchers.

This poor man who lost so many of his children and women family members could do nothing but hold one of them up and call for their martydom. So in a sense I suppose he is satisfied with that. Hezbollah thugs undoubtedly reinforced this means of resolving the situation for him.

Hezbollah is supposed to be defending the people in whose areas it is operating. They
did a piss poor job in this case by not getting this guy's family out of harms way.
Or it was their intention to use them as shields.

Are Hezbollah muslims? We can start with those.
 
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Larsen:

Where is your evidence that 140+ rockets were sent from Qana into Israel?


Which is a prime example why I started another thread on the demand for evidence of political or acts of war backed up by photographs, reports from the Israelis, bragging by Hezbollah, reporters on the ground, video of rocket launches, destroyed buildings, dead and injured Israeli civilians. Other than that I fear I have no evidence that you would accept. The question is whether it is necessary to have the sort of evidence you demand before drawing conclusions and acting on the information you do have.
 
I am not casting any suspicion on him, I am casting it on Hezbollah.

Don't lie, Steve:

Reports filtering in is that the dead in this incident were from just two large families hunkered down in one building. The rest of the village was evacuated in response to Israel's leaflet & broadcasting campaign to get out because they were going to attack Hezbollah positions in the town.

The father of one of the families who miraculously survived the bombing has called for his dead children to become martyrs and to ratchet up the attack on the Israeli invaders as well. He claims his family and those of the other family didn't get out because the roads were blocked.

Speculating about this one would have to wonder how others got out but he and his family did not. I am so glad the patriarch is alive and well and ranting so we can learn more from him although he has the world's condolences if he wants them.

You clearly cast suspicion on his actions.

Which is a prime example why I started another thread on the demand for evidence of political or acts of war backed up by photographs, reports from the Israelis, bragging by Hezbollah, reporters on the ground, video of rocket launches, destroyed buildings, dead and injured Israeli civilians. Other than that I fear I have no evidence that you would accept. The question is whether it is necessary to have the sort of evidence you demand before drawing conclusions and acting on the information you do have.

No evidence, then.

Steve, why don't you restrict your posts to claims that you know in advance you can actually back up? Look at this thread alone: One false claim after another from you.

How about your claim that it was the Hezbollah who "stored" them in a building? Do you have evidence of that?
 
Israeli air raid kills 27 civilians in Lebanon

An Israeli air strike killed at least 27 civilians in northeastern Lebanon on Friday and Hizbollah fired scores of rockets into Israel in an escalating conflict that world powers have failed to halt.

Casualties were ferried to nearby Syria after the raid near Qaa in the Bekaa Valley. Bombs hit a depot where farm workers, many of them Syrian Kurds, were loading fruit onto trucks, security sources said. About 10 people were also wounded.

Quousque tandem, Steve?

When will you start criticizing the Israelis for their acts of war?
 
No, he is just anti-Israel.

Sorta figured that also. But the philosophical question arises whether being anti-Israel doesn't make you pro Israel's enemy? But yes, he can be against both anti Israel and anti-Hezbollah ....although he consistently ignores questions regarding Hezbollah's failure to defend and protect innocents which leads any rational person to think he leans in their favor.
 

No, we are not at an impasse:

How about your claim that it was the Hezbollah who "stored" them in a building? Do you have evidence of that?

Larsen: Pro Hezbollah. Grenard: Pro-Israel.

Ongoing updates on rocket attacks in Israel



http://vancouver.indymedia.org/?q=en/node/1275

So, you will ignore all Israeli killings.

No, he is just anti-Israel.

Wrong. I am against unwarranted killings of civilians, regardless of who they are.

Sorta figured that also. But the philosophical question arises whether being anti-Israel doesn't make you pro Israel's enemy? But yes, he can be against both anti Israel and anti-Hezbollah ....although he consistently ignores questions regarding Hezbollah's failure to defend and protect innocents which leads any rational person to think he leans in their favor.

Rubbish. I consistently point to the attacks from both Hezbollah and Israel.
 
Larsen:

How about your claim that it was the Hezbollah who "stored" them in a building? Do you have evidence of that?


My claim if you want to call it that is based on the following:


Militant leader Nasrallah, in a speech carried on Hezbollah’s Al-Manar television, mocked Israeli claims that a substantial number of Hezbollah’s rockets had been knocked out and that its command structure had been badly weakened.

“I will tell you something: We are at military readiness. We are still in complete command of the front. We are in control of all the missile sites …. We are in complete control,” he said.







http://www.fortwayne.com/mld/journalgazette/news/nation/15194755.htm


COMPLETE CONTROL. I am glad to hear this. Sorta knocks out your implication that somebody else moved these rocket launcers, emplacements or "sites" into that car park.
 
Larsen:

My claim if you want to call it that is based on the following:




http://www.fortwayne.com/mld/journalgazette/news/nation/15194755.htm


COMPLETE CONTROL. I am glad to hear this. Sorta knocks out your implication that somebody else moved these rocket launcers, emplacements or "sites" into that car park.

I see you are once again up to your old tricks. When you haven't got evidence, post something - anything - and claim it is evidence.

Nothing in this indicates that the people in Qana were "stored" by the Hezbollah. Once again, you have been caught making an unfounded claim.
 
The question you asked was regarding the rocket site and whether that was stored in the building. The leader of Hezbollah says he is in complete control of those sites so clearly Hezbollah caused that to be parked there.

Nasrallah also claims to be in complete control of everything else in his theatre of operations which includes people. Hezbollah did not evacuate the people in the building they used to store their rocket launcher. Hezbollah did not take them out of harms way after the area was leafletted repeatedly by Israel to evacuate. Hezbollah is at fault. Israel was defending itself in destroying a rocket launcher and regrettably killed or injured civilians as a result. Civilians are also being killed by Hezbollah in Israel as well. This is nothing new for them. I am glad you are not pro-Hezbollah.

I have asked on another thread started for the purpose if what I posted represents sufficient evidence.
 
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The question you asked was regarding the rocket site and whether that was stored in the building. The leader of Hezbollah says he is in complete control of those sites so clearly Hezbollah caused that to be parked there.

Nasrallah also claims to be in complete control of everything else in his theatre of operations which includes people. Hezbollah did not evacuate the people in the building they used to store their rocket launcher. Hezbollah did not take them out of harms way after the area was leafletted repeatedly by Israel to evacuate. Hezbollah is at fault. Israel was defending itself in destroying a rocket launcher and regrettably killed or injured civilians as a result. Civilians are also being killed by Hezbollah in Israel as well. This is nothing new for them. I am glad you are not pro-Hezbollah.

I have asked on another thread started for the purpose if what I posted represents sufficient evidence.

Yet again, you don't have any evidence of your claim.
 
No, just the head of Hezbollah's quoted statements from Hezbollah TV in Lebanon. He's in charge. He's calling the shots, He's in control of his area of operation and he is in control of the rocket emplacements. Beyond that, no nothing.
 

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