astrology,feng shui and research

[woodwater]

Are you sure you really want to know? This knowlege/method is very powerful. I only tell people about it that are serious about finding the truth. Are you serious about wanting to know the truth?

Meg

Hi meg

What method do you use?
Soon ill have to turn in. Say something

 

[Mercutio]

Hi meg

What method do you use?
Soon ill have to turn in. Say something

Just in case you missed it because we are on a new page, woodwater, Meg's reply is the last post on the previous page.

M

 

[woodwater]

Hi folks

if Meg`s method works shouldnt other methods work?
After all the question is if there is something supernatural influencing our lives.

 

[woodwater]

Well, ok. That's what I thought, watching you in this conversation, - that you were really seeking the truth.

Here's the absolute truth about both your astrology program and my secret method:

It's all completely absolutely 100% made up, - with just a little bit of logical thinking thrown in.

Here's how you do it.

Make up a bunch of statements about someone, but make them vague enough that anyone could think it's about them. For example, "you are bright", "you are a good study", etc. Be sure to add in a few not so nice things, though, to make it sound realistic "be careful you don't get obsessed over things" "you might have a tendency to worry about money", etc.

Add in a few vague things about the person that you know. For example, you brought up your teacher a few times, so I see that you have a certain amount of respect for authority. I knew by your birthday that you were over 40 years old, so it's a pretty easy guess that you've had a career change or two, and that you've had more than one meaningful relationship.

If I saw you in person, I could probably make some guesses as to your lifestyle or income level, and therefore some of your previous experiences, based entirely on your speech, mannerisms, and dress.

Most of your victims will be happy to tell you more things about themselves than you ever had to guess, for example, your telling me about your long distance relationship. When that happens, say something like "Ah. I saw water, and a voyage. I wasn't sure about that before, but now it makes sense." and watch them be completely amazed.

Always throw something really good in to the person's future. They love that. And they believe that, so it makes them believe you.

If you're a really good liar, cheat and charlatan, you can then package all this stuff into a computer program and sell it to eager students looking for the truth. You can even become the "master" teacher, and get people to pay money to study this hogpoop, er.. I mean "science" directly from you.

However, woodwater, I see more in you. I see part of you is looking for the real truth, not a bunch of lies and vague statements that make you feel good. I see the potential in you to go far, and I'm not bullsh*tting you with that. I see you have the potential to see the real truth, accept it for what it is, and succeed. You have the potential to learn the truth, understand the sham, and expose the frauds and charlatans for what they are. I see you have the potential to go forth with your life, no longer bound by the mythologies and trickeries that the charlatans have played on you, able to live a successful, sane and happy life, free from the "woo" that many people spend their whole lives mired in.

Go forth and live with the truth, woodwater. Live FOR the truth.

As the old saying goes, "The truth shall set you free."

Think about it.

We're here to help.

All my best to you,
Meg

Hi meg

Thanks a lot. Thats really enlightening. I wished some of you joined the astrology lists i mentionedbefore. We could save a lot of people from those clever chinese masters. but logic is not my forte. I cant fight them alone cause theyre very clever

 

[meg]

Editted. Nevermind. I see you found my answer.

Your welcome.

Perhaps one day I'll go over to those boards, too. For now it's pretty fun and rewarding right here.

Meg

 

[woodwater]

Hi meg

Thanks a lot. Thats really enlightening. I wished some of you joined the astrology lists i mentionedbefore. We could save a lot of people from those clever chinese masters. but logic is not my forte. I cant fight them alone cause theyre very clever

Hi folks

When i was just beginning to believe you a guy in another list guessed correctly with astrology which of my cousin twins lost her son and is more extrovert and open minded. How do we explain this?

 

[woodwater]

Hi meg

Thanks a lot. Thats really enlightening. I wished some of you joined the astrology lists i mentionedbefore. We could save a lot of people from those clever chinese masters. but logic is not my forte. I cant fight them alone cause theyre very clever

Hi folks

When i was just beginning to believe you a guy in another list guessed correctly with astrology which of my cousin twins lost her son and is more extrovert and open minded. How do we explain this?

go to chineseastrology@yahoogroups.com

 

[eri]

Just a coincidence, woodwater. But it sounds as though you're not really convinced.

 

[meg]

Show the whole transcript here, if you want.

Look hard. How much did he guess and how much was he told?

Did he really guess she lost her son? Or did he say something like "someone important to you has passed"? Who hasn't lost someone?

Do a quick survey of everyone you know. Ask them are you extroverted and open minded? Most people will answer yes.

 

[woodwater]

Hi folks

When i was just beginning to believe you a guy in another list guessed correctly with astrology which of my cousin twins lost her son and is more extrovert and open minded. How do we explain this?

go to chineseastrology@yahoogroups.com

This is what i asked

can you tell which of these female twins is more conservative,traditional,good cook,reserved, and which is more extrovert and open minded?
And which lost a son in 2000?
born 11 nov 1957 :2.30 second twin:2.40

the guy told me the first twin is the extrovert and lost a son. True
What do you think?

 

[ChristineR]

Hey Meg, I just read over the posts in order and I saw it coming. I will mention that your reading of woodwater matched me very well (not perfectly). I think it might match a lot of people my age who spend a lot of time on the computer.

Anyhow, my real question is this: have you ever had anyone tell you that you were psychic after you told them it was all common sense, guessing, and logic? I've had several people tell me I was psychic and didn't know it. I have a fondness for tarot cards as historical and artistic objects (there's enough stuff for many an interesting skeptical thread) and used to do tarot readings for friends, but I gave it up because it was too freaky to be told I have powers.

 

[eri]

They had a 1/4 chance. Not bad odds.

 

[woodwater]

Show the whole transcript here, if you want.

Look hard. How much did he guess and how much was he told?

Did he really guess she lost her son? Or did he say something like "someone important to you has passed"? Who hasn't lost someone?

Do a quick survey of everyone you know. Ask them are you extroverted and open minded? Most people will answer yes.

i only told him what is in the previous post

 

[ChristineR]

This is what i asked

can you tell which of these female twins is more conservative,traditional,good cook,reserved, and which is more extrovert and open minded?
And which lost a son in 2000?
born 11 nov 1957 :2.30 second twin:2.40

the guy told me the first twin is the extrovert and lost a son. True
What do you think?

There's only four choices here: extrovert/conservative plus tragedy/no tragedy. So we can't make too much of this, it could be lucky guess. If the astrologer could do this for 10 of 10 sets, or get 70 out 100 sets right, that would be notable. The problem is that people tend to remember the lucky guesses and breeze over the misses, so that your impressions from the yahoo groups is misleading.

 

[woodwater]

There's only four choices here: extrovert/conservative plus tragedy/no tragedy. So we can't make too much of this, it could be lucky guess. If the astrologer could do this for 10 of 10 sets, or get 70 out 100 sets right, that would be notable. The problem is that people tend to remember the lucky guesses and breeze over the misses, so that your impressions from the yahoo groups is misleading.

Yes, but he knew his reputation was at stajke if he got it wrong. Thats what puzzled me. And normally younger siblings are more iopen minded not the other way round

 

[meg]

Well, I'd guess it based on the first child is usually the more extroverted. It's a 50/50 shot of who lost the child.

My condolences, by the way.

I lost a child myself. Interesting, isn't it, that you're reading of me did not pick that up?

Meg

 

[meg]

Hey Meg, I just read over the posts in order and I saw it coming. I will mention that your reading of woodwater matched me very well (not perfectly). I think it might match a lot of people my age who spend a lot of time on the computer.

Anyhow, my real question is this: have you ever had anyone tell you that you were psychic after you told them it was all common sense, guessing, and logic? I've had several people tell me I was psychic and didn't know it. I have a fondness for tarot cards as historical and artistic objects (there's enough stuff for many an interesting skeptical thread) and used to do tarot readings for friends, but I gave it up because it was too freaky to be told I have powers.

Hi ChristineR,

I've not really had that happen to me. Although some of my family members think I am a psychic. I wrote about it here. One of the responses to that was another woman saying the same thing, - that people would call her a psychic even after she told them how she did it.

I guess some people just want to believe it no matter what, whether you tell them the truth or not.

Meg

 

[ChristineR]

Yes, but he knew his reputation was at stajke if he got it wrong. Thats what puzzled me. And normally younger siblings are more iopen minded not the other way round

I suspect that if he missed he would say that these things are never 100% accurate. That's why it's important to do tests. By chance he would get 25% of these tests right. If he could get 50% or even 30% that would be an extremely important scientific discovery.

Just to give you an idea of how important it might be, say we could use astrological information to predict 30% of people who would get a certain type of cancer. The other 70% we can't predict, they have to rely on normal medical tests. But this would be a huge discovery, and could change the lives of many, many people.

 

[woodwater]

Well, I'd guess it based on the first child is usually the more extroverted. It's a 50/50 shot of who lost the child.

My condolences, by the way.

I lost a child myself. Interesting, isn't it, that you're reading of me did not pick that up?

Meg

first child is more extrovert when there are some years difference betwen thenm not twins i think

 

[Pope130]

I suspect that if he missed he would say that these things are never 100% accurate. That's why it's important to do tests. By chance he would get 25% of these tests right. If he could get 50% or even 30% that would be an extremely important scientific discovery.

Or he could claim that there was a mixup at the hospital, and the suppossed younger twin was actually the older, and that he had discovered this by horoscopy. WOW!

Robert