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astrology,feng shui and research

woodwater said:
relation with potencial wife is no good
he wants power very much but doesnt show it. He likes to show his talents and talk a lot. A show off.
he doesnt seem to care much about money:)
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hell be inclined to jobs where he can have power,and also performing arts or comunication
 
woodwater said:
Meg for a male the woman element is the same as wealth. The theory is that rich men find it easier to get a woman.
To a woman,men is power, so women dont usually seek power but men. The theory is that men control women, at least physically. Man is the agressor in sex:)
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Well, there's your problem. You're working off of flawed premises.
 
Meg for a male the woman element is the same as wealth. The theory is that rich men find it easier to get a woman.
To a woman,men is power, so women dont usually seek power but men. The theory is that men control women, at least physically. Man is the agressor in sex
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Hehehe....oh my is right.


Um. Ok.... So, according to your program, women are property to men, and women don't want any power, or *get* and power....the best they can hope for is to get a man..... Am I reading that right?

How do you feel about that, personally?

Meg
 
Hey, woodwater. I'm kind of a fortune teller in my own right. Want me to do a reading for you?

Meg
 
woodwater said:
relation with potencial wife is no good
he wants power very much but doesnt show it. He likes to show his talents and talk a lot. A show off.
he doesnt seem to care much about money:)
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I think you scored a hit with this one, aside from failing to list probable professions.

relation with potencial wife is no good

For this you would have to say spouse - he's gay (and single) :)

he wants power very much but doesn't show it.
Mostly true. He likes the power that comes with being a manager or a supervisor, but he's also scared of the responsibilty!

He likes to show his talents and talk a lot. A show off.

He does have considerable talent in his chosen profession and likes to show people he can do neat things. But he really doesn't talk very much. I worked with him for three years before I knew enough about his background to know if he even celebrated Christmas or Hanukkah.

he doesnt seem to care much about money :)

He has a very interesting attitude toward money. On the one hand he says, "Oh, it's only money" when he has to shell out a few hundred dollars for something like a car repair. On the other hand, he watches his account balances closely, saves when he can, and gets concerned when his total credit card debt goes over $1,000.

So, other posters in this forum: a lucky hit or something more profound? Or is the result just general stuff and he's reading too much into it?
 
meg said:
Hehehe....oh my is right.


Um. Ok.... So, according to your program, women are property to men, and women don't want any power, or *get* and power....the best they can hope for is to get a man..... Am I reading that right?

How do you feel about that, personally?

Meg
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Note that this is all baed on life in ancient Chuina whee women had no power and could only survive with a man or be prostitutes, It has to be adapted to modern times. In Skandinavia some people suggest woman is power to a man
 
Certainly. Born: 9 jan 1962 Lisbon,Portugal at 14.15
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Ok. Here's my reading on you.

You are a bit of a rebel. You like to think "outside the box". While you are bright, and a good study - when you are interested, sometimes normal subjects bore you and you ignore them and sometimes do poorly. You have the ability to go far and study well, however, the down side of that is that sometimes you go out on a limb and get kind of obsessed about things.

While your friends may consider you outgoing and friendly, sometimes you feel shy and afraid of looking foolish. You look to authority often, even though you seek the power of authority for yourself. You will find this power, but not by your present path.

You are technologically savvy, and work well with computers and new technology.

You have changed your career completely more than once.

You were married or in a strong relationship previously, - however, I see some trouble there. Did it end?

How am I doing so far?

Meg
 
woodwater said:
Has any of you been an astrologer and then became a skeptic?:D
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Yes. A JREF member, Cleopatra, was a trained astrologer.
woodwater said:
What was the final proof against astrology in your view?:confused:
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In her case, her father asked her a very simple question, which took quite some time to answer: There are very careful birth and death records kept for the Jews and others who died in Nazi concentration camps; if you have access to their birth records, can you tell who would live and who would die?

Living or dying is a fairly straightforward, objective criterion. It is important enough that the stars should (by astrologers' claims, anyway) be foretold. Cleo tried her best to demonstrate that astrology could and would predict who would live and who would die, but was forced to admit that it could not.

What would it take for you, as a final proof?
 
meg said:
Ok. Here's my reading on you.

You are a bit of a rebel. You like to think "outside the box". While you are bright, and a good study - when you are interested, sometimes normal subjects bore you and you ignore them and sometimes do poorly. You have the ability to go far and study well, however, the down side of that is that sometimes you go out on a limb and get kind of obsessed about things.

---all true

While your friends may consider you outgoing and friendly, sometimes you feel shy and afraid of looking foolish. You look to authority often, even though you seek the power of authority for yourself. You will find this power, but not by your present path.

---i dont seek authority. Is that what you mean?But in some circiunstances i would like to be a powerful person.

You are technologically savvy, and work well with computers and new technology.

---as a user. Not so sure about programming

You have changed your career completely more than once.

---true

You were married or in a strong relationship previously, - however, I see some trouble there. Did it end?

---ah ah i had a relationship but we still write each other. She lives in Australia and weve been talking about marrying so i can move there.

How am I doing so far?

---very well. what method do you use?

thanks:)

Meg
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Tell me more
 
Mercutio said:
Yes. A JREF member, Cleopatra, was a trained astrologer.
In her case, her father asked her a very simple question, which took quite some time to answer: There are very careful birth and death records kept for the Jews and others who died in Nazi concentration camps; if you have access to their birth records, can you tell who would live and who would die?

Living or dying is a fairly straightforward, objective criterion. It is important enough that the stars should (by astrologers' claims, anyway) be foretold. Cleo tried her best to demonstrate that astrology could and would predict who would live and who would die, but was forced to admit that it could not.

What would it take for you, as a final proof?
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things like world wars can override what our charts say.Thats what i hear
 
Meg: How am I doing so far?

woodwater: ---very well. what method do you use?

Tell me more
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Are you sure you really want to know? This knowlege/method is very powerful. I only tell people about it that are serious about finding the truth. Are you serious about wanting to know the truth?

Meg
 
woodwater said:
things like world wars can override what our charts say.Thats what i hear
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You hear this from whom?

What other things can override? If enough things override, the charts are, of course, useless.

Cleo was careful to make the claim in advance, rather than make excuses after the fact. Before looking, the books were clear that such a major life event should be foretold in the stars. After you hear it failed, it is easy to say "things like world wars can override what our charts say." This is why it is imperative that you make a testable claim that you will not be able to explain away afterward if you fail to come through.

It is human nature to explain away failure after the fact. We don't like to be wrong. But the truth is, sometimes we are. And it is best to know it when it is the case.
 
meg said:
Are you sure you really want to know? This knowlege/method is very powerful. I only tell people about it that are serious about finding the truth. Are you serious about wanting to know the truth?

Meg
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Sure. The truth is the most important thing to me. Why do you think im testing astrologers and skeptics?:)
 
Mercutio said:
You hear this from whom?

What other things can override? If enough things override, the charts are, of course, useless.

Cleo was careful to make the claim in advance, rather than make excuses after the fact. Before looking, the books were clear that such a major life event should be foretold in the stars. After you hear it failed, it is easy to say "things like world wars can override what our charts say." This is why it is imperative that you make a testable claim that you will not be able to explain away afterward if you fail to come through.

It is human nature to explain away failure after the fact. We don't like to be wrong. But the truth is, sometimes we are. And it is best to know it when it is the case.
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astrologers. they also mention things like karma but i think its ********
 
woodwater said:
astrologers. they also mention things like karma but i think its ********
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Astrologers are also the ones who said it would work. Which ones said, after the fact, that it never should have been expected to work in the first place? Is there any consensus among astrologers as to what does and does not work?
 
Sure. The truth is the most important thing to me. Why do you think im testing astrologers and skeptics?
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Well, ok. That's what I thought, watching you in this conversation, - that you were really seeking the truth.

Here's the absolute truth about both your astrology program and my secret method:

It's all completely absolutely 100% made up, - with just a little bit of logical thinking thrown in.

Here's how you do it.

Make up a bunch of statements about someone, but make them vague enough that anyone could think it's about them. For example, "you are bright", "you are a good study", etc. Be sure to add in a few not so nice things, though, to make it sound realistic "be careful you don't get obsessed over things" "you might have a tendency to worry about money", etc.

Add in a few vague things about the person that you know. For example, you brought up your teacher a few times, so I see that you have a certain amount of respect for authority. I knew by your birthday that you were over 40 years old, so it's a pretty easy guess that you've had a career change or two, and that you've had more than one meaningful relationship.

If I saw you in person, I could probably make some guesses as to your lifestyle or income level, and therefore some of your previous experiences, based entirely on your speech, mannerisms, and dress.

Most of your victims will be happy to tell you more things about themselves than you ever had to guess, for example, your telling me about your long distance relationship. When that happens, say something like "Ah. I saw water, and a voyage. I wasn't sure about that before, but now it makes sense." and watch them be completely amazed.

Always throw something really good in to the person's future. They love that. And they believe that, so it makes them believe you.

If you're a really good liar, cheat and charlatan, you can then package all this stuff into a computer program and sell it to eager students looking for the truth. You can even become the "master" teacher, and get people to pay money to study this hogpoop, er.. I mean "science" directly from you.

However, woodwater, I see more in you. I see part of you is looking for the real truth, not a bunch of lies and vague statements that make you feel good. I see the potential in you to go far, and I'm not bullsh*tting you with that. I see you have the potential to see the real truth, accept it for what it is, and succeed. You have the potential to learn the truth, understand the sham, and expose the frauds and charlatans for what they are. I see you have the potential to go forth with your life, no longer bound by the mythologies and trickeries that the charlatans have played on you, able to live a successful, sane and happy life, free from the "woo" that many people spend their whole lives mired in.

Go forth and live with the truth, woodwater. Live FOR the truth.

As the old saying goes, "The truth shall set you free."

Think about it.

We're here to help.

All my best to you,
Meg
 
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