Apollo 11 Moon Landing Revisited: Hoax ~vs~ Debunk

[Vixen]

Please link to anyone suggesting that.

Or retract it.

Post in thread 'Apollo 11 Moon Landing Revisited: Hoax ~vs~ Debunk'

Aug 13, 2026

Just because something's a best seller with the public, doesn't= quality. All the photographers I knew used Ilford.

How many photographers do you know shooting colour?
What Ilford film do they use to shoot colour?

Hint, Ilford do not make colour film

• Andy_Ross

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Post in thread 'Apollo 11 Moon Landing Revisited: Hoax ~vs~ Debunk'

Aug 14, 2026

Er, because some were professional (cf Keith Morris, Ansel Adams [_sp?] and others members of 'arty' camera clubs.

Which of those Ilford films would have shown stars during Lunar daylight?

• zooterkin

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[Mojo]

Sorry, that appears to be a post hoc ergo propter hoc logical fallacy;

Nope, the post hoc ergo propter hoc fallacy consists of claiming that because b follows a, b is caused by a.

re your claim, there are no stars because either NASA didn't want them or 'It is not possible to film a starry sky from the Moon surface using Ektachrome ASA160'. There are no stars because who needs'em anyway..?

You're lying again; nobody has claimed any of that.

There are no stars because photographs that are exposed to show the sunlit lunar surface do not have long enough exposure times to show stars.

 

[Mojo]

Post in thread 'Apollo 11 Moon Landing Revisited: Hoax ~vs~ Debunk'

Aug 13, 2026

Just because something's a best seller with the public, doesn't= quality. All the photographers I knew used Ilford.

How many photographers do you know shooting colour?
What Ilford film do they use to shoot colour?

Hint, Ilford do not make colour film

• Andy_Ross

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Post in thread 'Apollo 11 Moon Landing Revisited: Hoax ~vs~ Debunk'

Aug 14, 2026

Er, because some were professional (cf Keith Morris, Ansel Adams [_sp?] and others members of 'arty' camera clubs.

Which of those Ilford films would have shown stars during Lunar daylight?

• zooterkin

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No, he asked you to quote people claiming "that use of superior b&w film was not feasible."

 

[Mojo]

Stop pretending to be even more stupid than you are.

Maybe she isn't.

 

[Jack by the hedge]

Post in thread 'Apollo 11 Moon Landing Revisited: Hoax ~vs~ Debunk'

Aug 13, 2026

Just because something's a best seller with the public, doesn't= quality. All the photographers I knew used Ilford.

How many photographers do you know shooting colour?
What Ilford film do they use to shoot colour?

Hint, Ilford do not make colour film

• Andy_Ross

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Post in thread 'Apollo 11 Moon Landing Revisited: Hoax ~vs~ Debunk'

Aug 14, 2026

Er, because some were professional (cf Keith Morris, Ansel Adams [_sp?] and others members of 'arty' camera clubs.

Which of those Ilford films would have shown stars during Lunar daylight?

• zooterkin

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Fail. Nobody said you can't photograph stars with any type of film you like. But you need the appropriate settings and a method of keeping the camera pointed at the same point in the sky for long enough.

 

[Andy_Ross]

Selenostationary* satellite images for live TV broadcast from the Moon's surface without needing special logistics because of course, it would theoretically match the Moon's orbit.

*cf geostationary satellites

Not needed because as we keep saying, there is direct line of sight from the earth to the moon
You csn see it yourself.

 

[JesseCuster]

Post in thread 'Apollo 11 Moon Landing Revisited: Hoax ~vs~ Debunk'

Aug 13, 2026

Just because something's a best seller with the public, doesn't= quality. All the photographers I knew used Ilford.

How many photographers do you know shooting colour?
What Ilford film do they use to shoot colour?

Hint, Ilford do not make colour film

• Andy_Ross

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Post in thread 'Apollo 11 Moon Landing Revisited: Hoax ~vs~ Debunk'

Aug 14, 2026

Er, because some were professional (cf Keith Morris, Ansel Adams [_sp?] and others members of 'arty' camera clubs.

Which of those Ilford films would have shown stars during Lunar daylight?

• zooterkin

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Do you have some sort of fundamental reading comprehension probe? Do you not understand the question, or do you not understand the posts you posted?

There's nothing in there about photographs of stars being "unfeasible" (or anything like that) black and white film.

Are you even aware of how disconnected your answers are to the questions being asked and how the stuff you quote and link to does not actually answer or even address the question asked?

 

[Andy_Ross]

He's got it! By Jove he's got it!!!

Then why the ◊◊◊◊ do you keep telling us one would be needed?

 

[Andy_Ross]

Here's an example of how black and white photography is perfectly capable of producing a starry night photo.

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And?

 

[Andy_Ross]

It was claimed that use of superior b&w film was not feasible.

Two different types of Kodak black and white film was used on the Apollo missions.
What point are you making again?

 

[Darat]

It was claimed that use of superior b&w film was not feasible.

Liar.

 

[SpitfireIX]

Do you have some sort of fundamental reading comprehension? Do you not understand the question, or do you not understand the quote you posted? . . .

Are you even aware of how disconnected your answers are to the questions being asked and how the stuff you quote and link to does not actually answer or even address the question asked?

This pretty much sums up about 80% of Vixen's posts in every thread of hers.

 

[SpitfireIX]

Then why the ◊◊◊◊ do you keep telling us one would be needed?

She's pretending that you've just admitted that Apollo must therefore be fake, and therefore scored some kind of an own-goal.

 

[Andy_Ross]

Sorry, that appears to be a post hoc ergo propter hoc logical fallacy; re your claim, there are no stars because either NASA didn't want them or 'It is not possible to film a starry sky from the Moon surface using Ektachrome ASA160'. There are no stars because who needs'em anyway..?

It is possible with the correct exposure settings.
Those settings would not be suitable for photographing anything on the surface which was the point of the photography.

One of the Apollo missions took a camera just for photographing the stars.

 

[Steve]

Post in thread 'Apollo 11 Moon Landing Revisited: Hoax ~vs~ Debunk'

Aug 13, 2026

Just because something's a best seller with the public, doesn't= quality. All the photographers I knew used Ilford.

How many photographers do you know shooting colour?
What Ilford film do they use to shoot colour?

Hint, Ilford do not make colour film

• Andy_Ross

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Post in thread 'Apollo 11 Moon Landing Revisited: Hoax ~vs~ Debunk'

Aug 14, 2026

Er, because some were professional (cf Keith Morris, Ansel Adams [_sp?] and others members of 'arty' camera clubs.

Which of those Ilford films would have shown stars during Lunar daylight?

• zooterkin

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You have no comprehension of the words in wollery's post that you quoted. Are you drunk? off your meds? or getting stupider by the hour?

 

[Andy_Ross]

Three of the Apollo missions also used 64 ASA Ektachrome in the Apollo Lunar Surface Close-up Camera. It was used in 11,12 and 14.

The ALSCC is a twin-lens, stereoscopic camera built by Eastman Kodak and preloaded with film

 

[zooterkin]

Post in thread 'Apollo 11 Moon Landing Revisited: Hoax ~vs~ Debunk'

Aug 13, 2026

Just because something's a best seller with the public, doesn't= quality. All the photographers I knew used Ilford.

How many photographers do you know shooting colour?
What Ilford film do they use to shoot colour?

Hint, Ilford do not make colour film

• Andy_Ross

• 

Post in thread 'Apollo 11 Moon Landing Revisited: Hoax ~vs~ Debunk'

Aug 14, 2026

Er, because some were professional (cf Keith Morris, Ansel Adams [_sp?] and others members of 'arty' camera clubs.

Which of those Ilford films would have shown stars during Lunar daylight?

• zooterkin

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You quoted my post. I foolishly left the obvious assumptions unstated, that photos were being taken of the Moon's surface in Lunar daylight, with the settings that would be necessary for that; would stars be visible when using any of the Ilford monochrome films instead of the Kodak colour ones that were used?

 

[ferd burfle]

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Are you even aware of how disconnected your answers are to the questions being asked and how the stuff you quote and link to does not actually answer or even address the question asked?

It’s not a bug, it’s a feature

 

[Reformed Offlian]

Selenostationary* satellite images for live TV broadcast from the Moon's surface without needing special logistics because of course, it would theoretically match the Moon's orbit.

*cf geostationary satellites

Yes, I know that's your claim. You haven't established any basis for thinking it's actually a requirement.

 

[Axxman300]

After all, Nixon is not famed for integrity and we can see how expedient and imperative to absolutely beat the Soviets to Moon rock was - and nothing quite drives a man to insanity but the prospect of gold precious highly-sought-after minerals - and the competition with the USSR was as intense at the time as taking a last minute penalty before the final whistle.

Not sure if you need a history lesson or mental help.

So, yeah, saying, "Oooh we mustn't discuss this because these guys are 'heroes'", doesn't strike me as an argument that carries much weight.

We get, you hate men, but the issue is Allen, Weaver and Percy's buffoonery.

Apollo11 was very much Nixon's big rabbit out of the bag. Ringing them up live by phone and doing a Hughie Green or Brucie on their return, the guys bounding down the helicopter steps.

The Apollo program began in 1960 under Eisenhower. Nixon wasn't President until January, 1969. Apollo missions one through eight took place before Nixon was in the White House.

It's called a schedule. We launched the Apollo missions in numerical order. No regard given to whomever might be in the White House. And what politician wouldn't want to share the spotlight with three men who slightly altered the course of human history?