So what form does the resistance take?

[Norman Alexander]

"I expect antifa and communists have precisely zero effect on the US economy."

Um, maybe. Esp

"I expect antifa and communists have precisely zero effect on the US economy."

Maybe. "...precisely zero effect..." is a generalizaion that needs support.

I don't think I need to spell this out. Seriously. Even being Australian living in Australia, I have more effect on the US economy than antifa or communists, even if it is microscopic. Because, even very occasionally, I buy a few American-made products (in my case, California walnuts).

 

[Gawdzilla Sama]

Rarely good to assume.

 

[bruto]

Of course Antifa and Communism have an effect on the economy but they have it backwards. Every idiot who buys a gun or listens to an ad on a conspiracy site, stocks up on canned food and bullets is contributing to the great American economy. A common enemy makes us strong whether it's real or imagined.

 

[dann]

Great video from the resistance:

They Just Told Us How to Defeat Them (Genetically Modified Skeptic on YouTube, May 27, 2026 – 17:48 min.)
They're telling on themselves over and over.

Drew's can-do attitude and optimism is refreshing!

In the current climate with the warmongers screaming that Cuba is a threat to the security of the USA, it is good to be reminded of a time when an even smaller Caribbean nation was deemed to threaten the USA: Grenada, population size 114,621.
Some of you may know about the country only from the bloody awful Clint Eastwood film, Heartbreak Ridge, about the U.S. invasion of the country more than 40 years ago.

 

[theprestige]

Great video from the resistance:



Drew's can-do attitude and optimism is refreshing!

In the current climate with the warmongers screaming that Cuba is a threat to the security of the USA, it is good to be reminded of a time when an even smaller Caribbean nation was deemed to threaten the USA: Grenada, population size 114,621.
Some of you may know about the country only from the bloody awful Clint Eastwood film, Heartbreak Ridge, about the U.S. invasion of the country more than 40 years ago.

yt;dw - so what's the secret to defeating them?

 

[theprestige]

Great video from the resistance:



Drew's can-do attitude and optimism is refreshing!

In the current climate with the warmongers screaming that Cuba is a threat to the security of the USA, it is good to be reminded of a time when an even smaller Caribbean nation was deemed to threaten the USA: Grenada, population size 114,621.
Some of you may know about the country only from the bloody awful Clint Eastwood film, Heartbreak Ridge, about the U.S. invasion of the country more than 40 years ago.

Grenada was deemed a threat to the US citizens living there. That's why it was invaded. Try not to lie about this stuff.

 

[steenkh]

Grenada was deemed a threat to the US citizens living there. That's why it was invaded. Try not to lie about this stuff.

Hardly. Grenada was invaded because it was easy to prevent another Socialist state in the U.S. backyard.

 

[The Great Zaganza]

nvm

 

[dann]

Grenada was deemed a threat to the US citizens living there. That's why it was invaded. Try not to lie about this stuff.

It's too late now, but at the time you should have told Reagan not to lie about stuff. That you happen to love those lies is no excuse for repeating them.

Flashback: Why Ronald Reagan Invaded Grenada (Mother Jones, Mar 6, 2014)
As it happens, there was little evidence that any Americans were in danger, and the nearby governments had asked for help largely because Reagan had requested it. The real reason for the invasion was that Grenada was a nearby country and Reagan was concerned that Cuba and the Soviet Union were establishing a military foothold there. Does it start to sound familiar now?

United States invasion of Grenada: October 1983 (Wikipedia)
Future U.S. Secretary of State Lawrence Eagleburger, who was then serving as Reagan's Under Secretary of State for Political Affairs, later said that the prime motivation for the intervention was to "get rid" of the coup leader Hudson Austin, and that the students were a pretext.[39]

You guys are much too eager to accept any stupid excuse for invading other countries, be it non-existent WMDs or complaints from paid 'dissidents' like Greenlandic Jørgen Boassen and whoever it will be in the case of Cuba.

 

[dann]

Heather Cox probably thinks of herself as being part of the resistance, and yet she falls for this lie:

'We’re on a Knife’s Edge' – Historian Warns U.S. Is Near a Breaking Point (Zeteo on YouTube, July 13, 2025 –43:22 min.)
19:43–> What we're really changing are the people going into politics. If we say, 'We're not going to elect you unless you do X', you start to move the political conversation into a better direction.

She is a historian! How can she not know that there is no way for voters in a representative democracy to demand that elected representatives "do X"? Once they've cast their vote, it's up to their elected representatives to interpret what that means. The constitution is on the side of the politicians, not the voters, and the politicians usually go with the people who bribe them, not with the people who they persuaded to vote for them:

Representative democracy: Criticisms (Wikipedia)
A drawback to this type of government is that elected officials are not required to fulfill promises made before their election and are able to promote their own self-interests once elected, providing an incohesive system of governance.

It was never a secret, and yet people refuse to believe it!

 

[dann]

I don't know if people here on ISF have given up on resisting or if they have already found the best way for them to resist and thus don't need to know any more about it.
However, if not, here are some ideas:

Maddow: Advice on DEFIANCE in the age of Trump (MS NOW on YouTube, July 29, 2026 – 43:39 min.)
Rachel Maddow talks with Julia Angwin and Ami Fields-Meyer, authors of "On Courage: How to be a dissident in an age of fear," about "the central question of how to live right as an American citizen right now," and the variety of ways people can throw sand in the gears of authoritarianism to preserve democracy.

On Courage: How to Be a Dissident in an Age of Fear (GoodReads)
From a Pulitzer Prize-winning investigative journalist and a former White House senior advisor, a deeply reported manual about how anyone can defy an authoritarian –- based on original interviews with more than 100 dissidents, activists, and theorists across the world.

'Caring is the courageous thing': How to be a dissident, made easy (MS NOW on YouTube, July 5, 2026 – 13:15 min.)
What does a roadmap to dissent look like for the ordinary person? According to the new book "On Courage: How to Be a Dissident in an Age of Fear," courage is less about heroism and more about listening to the inner voice that says something is wrong— and acting on it, even when you're afraid. Co-author Julia Angwin explains why defending democracy is "much more doable than we thought." Dissent, she says, is a "buffet menu" of options where everyone can pick a lane— even if it's just handing out water bottles.

How to Be a Dissident in an Age of Fear (Hammer Museum, July 28, 2026)
Fascism doesn't win because it's strong — it wins when people give up. Authoritarians count on their subjects feeling powerless. Pulitzer Prize winner Julia Angwin and former White House advisor Ami Fields-Meyer interviewed students, workers, and everyday citizens who took on autocrats and won — and turned what they learned into a field guide. Their New York Times best-selling book, On Courage: How to Be a Dissident in an Age of Fear, shows exactly how ordinary people can organize, resist, and defeat authoritarianism.

(Too late, unfortunately!)


An article in The New Yorker by the authors of the book, Julia Angwin and Ami Fields-Meyer:
So You Want to Be a Dissident? A practical guide to courage in Trump's age of fear. (The New Yorker, April 12, 2026)

 

[dudalb]

Sigh......we now have a true No Enemies To the Left faction here.

 

[dudalb]

Hardly. Grenada was invaded because it was easy to prevent another Socialist state in the U.S. backyard.

Define Socialist. From all I have read, the regime in Grenda was pretty hard core Marxist.
Of course, if want to dend hard core Marxism, go ahead.

 

[steenkh]

Define Socialist. From all I have read, the regime in Grenda was pretty hard core Marxist.

Define hard core Marxist.

 

[The Great Zaganza]

Sigh......we now have a true No Enemies To the Left faction here.

I think you don't understand coalition building and breaking.

 

[dudalb]

Define hard core Marxist.

SO we are going to play that game.
I would say the Soviet union, Mao's CHina,CUba are examples; where the government had complete control of the economy, trtied to subsitute government order and directions for basic Market forces, and failed miserably.
But you are proving my point there are many here who just refuse to admit that extremism or evil can exist on the left wing of the political spectrum.

 

[sackett]

Okay, dudalb, you can get to work now and convince me that the Leninism/Stalinism we all remember so fondly has jack ◊◊◊◊ to do with modern politics, in the US especially, where even the old-time US Communist Party in its -- shall we call it heyday? -- made no showing at all. The earlier Socialist Party didn't do appeciably better, even in the 1880s, when the bosses and their tame judges and politicians were bullet-headedly determined to oppress working people as much as they could, and shed blood to show they were in earnest.

The truth is that the USA has never needed, and certainly has never wanted, extreme politics, that is, ideologically driven revolution. We have it too good for that crap! Even at the present hour, when the Regime is wallowing through its orgy of greed, we dont need that civil war you seem to pine for (you're sincere in that, aren'tcha? huh? Aren'tcha?). We have constitutional means to put things right, as we always have.

So you can knock off looking under your bed, and others' beds, for those sinister lefties with them little round bombs and hammers 'n sickles.

I wonder how much of the above you understand?

 

[dudalb]

Okay, dudalb, you can get to work now and convince me that the Leninism/Stalinism we all remember so fondly has jack ◊◊◊◊ to do with modern politics, in the US especially, where even the old-time US Communist Party in its -- shall we call it heyday? -- made no showing at all. The earlier Socialist Party didn't do appeciably better, even in the 1880s, when the bosses and their tame judges and politicians were bullet-headedly determined to oppress working people as much as they could, and shed blood to show they were in earnest.

The truth is that the USA has never needed, and certainly has never wanted, extreme politics, that is, ideologically driven revolution. We have it too good for that crap! Even at the present hour, when the Regime is wallowing through its orgy of greed, we dont need that civil war you seem to pine for (you're sincere in that, aren'tcha? huh? Aren'tcha?). We have constitutional means to put things right, as we always have.

So you can knock off looking under your bed, and others' beds, for those sinister lefties with them little round bombs and hammers 'n sickles.

I wonder how much of the above you understand?

Have you read the program of the DSA?
Sounds pretty close to the standard classic Marxist program to me.
BTW, The DSA program wants to scrap the consitution, among other things.
I am not saying the DSA was always that way. But if bother to go to thier website and read their program, you will see what I mean. I think that over the past few months, there was a sort of coup in the DSA where the more extreme wing managed to take over.
And the main reason I am concerned is not so much that the radical wing of the DSA has a chance in hell of winning, but that they might scare enough swing voters to give the upcoming elections to the GOP.
As for Leninsim and Stalinism beind dead, on one point people though tthat way about Fascism. They were wrong.
A

 

[ZiprHead]

Have you read the program of the DSA?
Sounds pretty close to the standard classic Marxist program to me.
BTW, The DSA program wants to scrap the consitution, among other things.
I am not saying the DSA was always that way. But if bother to go to thier website and read their program, you will see what I mean. I think that over the past few months, there was a sort of coup in the DSA where the more extreme wing managed to take over.
And the main reason I am concerned is not so much that the radical wing of the DSA has a chance in hell of winning, but that they might scare enough swing voters to give the upcoming elections to the GOP.
As for Leninsim and Stalinism beind dead, on one point people though tthat way about Fascism. They were wrong.
A

Could you explain, in detail, how the extreme positions of the DSA could actually be enacted? Frankly, the hoops they would have to go through seem extremely tiny in the modern legal and governmental systems we have today, imho.

 

[dudalb]

Could you explain, in detail, how the extreme positions of the DSA could actually be enacted? Frankly, the hoops they would have to go through seem extremely tiny in the modern legal and governmental systems we have today, imho.

Oh, I agree the extreme positions the DSA takes could never be enacted..abolish all Prisons and Police Forces? have the Governmen take over all housing?Pretty much throw out the Constitution?
But it does show how extreme the people who have seem to takein over the Machinery of the DSA are, and that coud do damage to the more progressive democrats in swing states.
And, if anything, the last few years have shown us that even if they cannot get their full agenda through, extremists in postions of power can do huge damage trying.