dudalb
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So no criticism of the Dems or the Left is allowed. GOt it.
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Who should run for the Dems?
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dudalb
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In this case, yes. I don't see much in the way of new leadership in either party.
But you refuse to see or admit that anything on the left might be at fault......
Susheel
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No there are. You just prefer to believe that there aren't because their views don't align with your rather chocolate box "land of the free notion" of America. The moment there is a leader of substance who threatens the putrefied status quo of America, the political landscape and media work double time to undermine them. I definitely believe that people like Mamdani and the DS candidates who recently won in the primaries offer such leadership. Name an equivalent on the right.
dirtywick
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of course it's allowed. it's preferred if it's thoughtful and relevant, and when it's not it's not well received and you're likely to get comments like the one you just got.
Helen
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I've heard Jon Ossoff being mentioned more and more often - could he be a compromise that would work? Anti-corruption, pro-women's rights, somewhere in between centrists and progressives, it seems at a glance?
Donal
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I'd be worried about him, Warnock, Kelly and Gaellgo, whom I have also heard thrown around. Mainly because their current seats are too vulnerable to risk.
Helen
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Ah, that makes sense.
plague311
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Uh, you forgot to add "criminal ungood doublethink" to it, you know...for effect. That really drives it all home.
P.J. Denyer
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Meh, I'll do it, but I'll have to speak to Barrack about getting a US birth certificate.
P.J. Denyer
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Ivanka's running?
P.J. Denyer
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I wish I hadn't joined the drinking game though...
P.J. Denyer
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Bugger, now I have to down my pint!
dudalb
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And now accusations of rape against the Democratic candidate in Maine. he needs to be replaced, he just has to much baggage.
I don't know about Maine voters - maybe he still has a shot - but the Dems there are just snatching defeat from the jaws of victory. Did anybody vet this guy?
dudalb
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That is what gets to me...a lot of bad stuff had come out before the primary.
General consensus he is does not stand the chance of a snowball in hell after today's events. "re
He says he will take a couple of days to "reflect on his candidacy". I will be surprised if he is not gone within a week.
plague311
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Considering we're over 4 months out, I'm going to wait to doom the Dems until we get a little bit closer.
I agree Platner should have been gone significantly earlier but it's who the voters decided on. I'm surprised a guy with that past would even run as a candidate considering he had to know he would be in the limelight. He should have stuck to shucking oysters, but I'm sure the Dems will select a decent candidate and Susan Collins has a lot to answer for to her base. The opportunity is still wide open.
I agree Platner should have been gone significantly earlier but it's who the voters decided on. I'm surprised a guy with that past would even run as a candidate considering he had to know he would be in the limelight. He should have stuck to shucking oysters, but I'm sure the Dems will select a decent candidate and Susan Collins has a lot to answer for to her base. The opportunity is still wide open.
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I really don't think anyone expected him to get this far, Platner included. This was supposed to be Mills' victory lap.
The replacement is going to be Mills and Collins will squeak out a win. I don't expect the Democratic leadership to understand that Planter got as far as he did despite the baggage because he was hitting issues people cared about and brought solutions besides "wait and see". Even 2 bit grifters like Sinema and Fetterman know that. And they won in purple states campaigning as progressives. Right-wing grifters lift progressive language all the time.
But the response is always "blah blah New York vs Real America" like people in the MidWest don't worry about healthcare costs or wages.
The replacement is going to be Mills and Collins will squeak out a win. I don't expect the Democratic leadership to understand that Planter got as far as he did despite the baggage because he was hitting issues people cared about and brought solutions besides "wait and see". Even 2 bit grifters like Sinema and Fetterman know that. And they won in purple states campaigning as progressives. Right-wing grifters lift progressive language all the time.
But the response is always "blah blah New York vs Real America" like people in the MidWest don't worry about healthcare costs or wages.
plague311
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To your point, I live in the Midwest and this is the #1 thing talked about at our employee meetings. How much is healthcare going up, how much will we get to offset that and what isn't going to be covered when we switch to a new provider? The latter of which we seem to do every 2 years just to try and keep costs relatively decent.
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Yeah this is why I don't the new Red Scare is going to loom that large in the elections. People are focused on their lives and not some abstract scourge of a few socialist democrats who won primaries. Get some SD's elected in the suburbs then we can have a conversation about a communist threat, such as it's perceived.