Trump's Second Term

[Trausti]

Cool, but since people live in the city it would be better, easier, and more productive for them to have a walkable city that is easier to traverse.

They did, before they were terrorized. People vote with their feet, ya know.

Also, you don't have to use that ◊◊◊◊◊◊◊ stupid inflammatory language. We all know who you are, we get it.

"inflammatory language" LOL

 

[Aridas]

Not really. The US is a big place. Lots of places to live. The critique of "walkable cities" concerns crime. If the city is unsafe, it doesn't matter how walkable you want to make it, people aren't going there.

Using "the critique" just invites criticism. There are a number of concerns that critics have raised, with varying levels of reasonability and applicability. Concerns about the overall safety of living in cities is certainly one of the critiques, yes, but not even close to the only one. Even so, on a quick check, about 27% of the population DO live in cities, with 43% in suburban and 30% in rural areas. The concern about crime would be more convincing if people were being forced to live in said walkable cities, which really isn't something that I've seen any effort to push for, myself.

Other examples of criticisms include concerns about gentrification, given the normal trend for those with more wealth to act to monopolize good things and push out those less wealthy from being able to live near them, concerns about the flaws of public transportation and how those flaws affect travel, and concerns about restricted access and lack of some freedom for those who rely on their vehicles for work or pleasure.

 

[Andy_Ross]

Q: If the president is in such perfect health, why does he keep going back in for checkups?

DR OZ: I think he likes the results. He does really well. He aces the test every single day.

video in link

 

[Aridas]

I bet that Trump cheats when playing Golf.

Given the large pool of testimony and harder evidence that he does, that's a really safe bet.

 

[Dr.Sid]

Q: If the president is in such perfect health, why does he keep going back in for checkups?

DR OZ: I think he likes the results. He does really well. He aces the test every single day.

video in link

TBF he's old AF, and he's in the most important position. If anything I'd say he should be checked up more often.

 

[plague311]

Q: If the president is in such perfect health, why does he keep going back in for checkups?

DR OZ: I think he likes the results. He does really well. He aces the test every single day.

video in link

That sounds more to me like people tracking deterioration than it does him enjoying himself. The same way a parent would turn cleaning into a game. "You're such a big boy, passing these tests. Lets do it again tomorrow because it's so much fun and you're so good at it!"

TBF he's old AF, and he's in the most important position. If anything I'd say he should be checked up more often.

This would be a good point if the data were driving their actions. Trump is an absolute trainwreck. He's showing extremely obvious signs of dementia and no one seems to be doing anything about it. What good is checking in on him if they just shrug their shoulders at the warning signs? I remember conservatives on this very site accuse those around Biden of "elder abuse" because they let him keep going out there and "show how mentally ill he is" and yet those same conservatives are pretty quiet about it now.

 

[plague311]

They did, before they were terrorized. People vote with their feet, ya know.

They do, and they choose to stay in those cities so perhaps they aren't as bad as you think they are? I know, you don't admit you're wrong but still.

"inflammatory language" LOL

Yup, let me know which part you're having troubles with and I can lend you a hand.

 

[Andy_Ross]

Good news on inflation

KUDLOW: How bad is the inflation right?

HASSETT: Right now it's on a deep, downward dive. And the inflation is really out of control in the blue states. So if you take out New York and California, then the story is radically different. And so there's really good news even on inflation right now.

video in link

 

[dudalb]

And Donnie has started up the whole Canada will be the 51st state crap again.
Man, he is getting desperate for a distraction.

Given the large pool of testimony and harder evidence that he does, that's a really safe bet.

Golfing is one my favorite recreations, and to my mind cheating at Golf is about as low as you can get.

 

[Trausti]

They do, and they choose to stay in those cities so perhaps they aren't as bad as you think they are? I know, you don't admit you're wrong but still.

So your explanation for the massive growth of US suburbs would be what?

Yup, let me know which part you're having troubles with and I can lend you a hand.

LOL

 

[dudalb]

Dr. Oz being in a postion of real responsiblity in the US Health system is another reason the Ebola outbreak is scary.
The US Health defense system under Kennedy and Oz is the Maginot Linw, and Ebola might well be the German Army in 1940.....

 

[Darat]

Using "the critique" just invites criticism. There are a number of concerns that critics have raised, with varying levels of reasonability and applicability. Concerns about the overall safety of living in cities is certainly one of the critiques, yes, but not even close to the only one. Even so, on a quick check, about 27% of the population DO live in cities, with 43% in suburban and 30% in rural areas. The concern about crime would be more convincing if people were being forced to live in said walkable cities, which really isn't something that I've seen any effort to push for, myself.

Other examples of criticisms include concerns about gentrification, given the normal trend for those with more wealth to act to monopolize good things and push out those less wealthy from being able to live near them, concerns about the flaws of public transportation and how those flaws affect travel, and concerns about restricted access and lack of some freedom for those who rely on their vehicles for work or pleasure.

In the Uk when we talk about "walkable" cities we are including the suburbs in that - in other words there is a good public transport to take us into the heart of the cities from the suburbs or we could walk a couple of miles if we wanted to get into the city. In the USA even the suburbs are seemingly designed around needing a car.

 

[Aridas]

So your explanation for the massive growth of US suburbs would be what?

To borrow from Google's AI summation for ease's sake -

Key drivers of suburbanization include:

• Transportation Improvements: The widespread adoption of the automobile and the expansion of highway and interstate systems allow workers to commute easily from farther away. [1, 2, 3, 4, 5]
• Housing and Space: Suburbs offer larger homes, private yards, and quieter environments, fulfilling the desire for more space and the "American Dream" of homeownership. [1, 2]
• Economic Factors: Generally, property taxes and cost of living are lower in the suburbs. Furthermore, commercial and industrial jobs frequently decentralize to suburban business parks. [1]
• Urban Challenges: Factors pushing people out of the city include congestion, higher crime rates, perceived lower quality of public schools, and older housing stock. [1, 2, 3]
• Government Policies: Post-WWII government interventions—such as favorable Federal Housing Administration (FHA) mortgage loans, G.I. Bill benefits for veterans, and massive infrastructure investments—explicitly subsidized suburban development. [1, 2]
• Demographics: The post-WWII "Baby Boom" and subsequent generations of families seeking safe, family-oriented environments prioritized the suburban landscape. [1]

 

[Trausti]

To borrow from Google's AI summation for ease's sake -

Crime, Urban Flight, and the Consequences for Cities

This paper demonstrates that rising crime rates in cities are correlated with city depopulation.

 

[EHocking]

Unfortunately the Mos Eisley Cantina Band have had to drop out of the Freedom 250 show due to too much scum and villainy.

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Rumour has it that Trump is cancelling it according to the bbc?

US President Donald Trump has said musical performances celebrating the country's 250th birthday should be called off after several artists dropped out, citing the event's affiliation with the White House.

"Cancel it," he said in a post on Truth Social, calling the slated performers "overpriced" and "boring".

I mean what could go go wrong when many of the artists share the same agent.
Jeff Epstein.

“Ta-da!” [John] Stewart responded. “What the ◊◊◊◊? Jeff Epstein of Universal Attractions is in charge of—forgive me—recruiting talent for a Donald Trump party? That’s what you’re telling me? In planning our country’s 250th birthday, somebody had to go into Donald Trump’s office and say, ‘I know just the guy?’ How bad do you feel for that guy? After years of being ‘not that Epstein,’ he finally gets all of his acts books. It’s all coming up Epstein. And then the acts collapsed. He finally thought he was going to get his happy ending—but nope. Once again they leave him hanging.”

 

[P.J. Denyer]

Given the large pool of testimony and harder evidence that he does, that's a really safe bet.

There's literally a book about it.

 

[Resume]

In the Uk when we talk about "walkable" cities we are including the suburbs in that - in other words there is a good public transport to take us into the heart of the cities from the suburbs or we could walk a couple of miles if we wanted to get into the city. In the USA even the suburbs are seemingly designed around needing a car.

I'm a 15 minute walk from a bus ride to take me to the Metra which takes me past a dozen stops until downtown. From there, another walk, or a bus or the EL. Even the ex-urbs are getting kiss and ride stations.

 

[Aridas]

Crime, Urban Flight, and the Consequences for Cities

Correlated? Certainly! I think that I'll make two very simple points in response to that, though. First, that was already part of the factor list given. Second, like with many other correlations, there's much more to the larger picture at hand.

On a different line, though, your argument and choice of ways to try to support it makes it sound like it comes down to "If they build it, virtually no one will come." Do you agree with this assessment?

 

[shemp]

I bet that Trump cheats when playing Golf.

Good job, Sherlock.

 

[Jack by the hedge]

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I am getting the impressison that, Trump aside, you just don;t like the US very much.

What do you mean "getting" the impression? You've been sure since forever that every non-American here either secretly or blatantly hates America.

Anyway, I'm not talking about big cities. I'm talking about pretty small towns, with shopping that sprawling along both sides of the road and has no provision for humans to walk from one store to the next, let alone get to the others across the road. It's odd. It's not about hating the country. It's about how strange it is that people treat that as normal.