I remember people here saying that Obama was ruling by decree given the claimed high number of EOs he signed.... They seem to have no such opinion in regard to Trump.
It's the most surprising thing since it last rained in the morning in the Peak DistrictI remember people here saying that Obama was ruling by decree given the claimed high number of EOs he signed.... They seem to have no such opinion in regard to Trump.
I would have said since the Sun last rose in the East, but given the above, I'm taking that on trust.It's the most surprising thing since it last rained in the morning in the Peak District
EOs are executive decree, and they're within the purview of the executive to issue. It's the same problem regardless of who's in the office, but the perspective that using EOs makes the president a fascist dictator is a new take on the problem.I remember people here saying that Obama was ruling by decree given the claimed high number of EOs he signed.... They seem to have no such opinion in regard to Trump.
I agree that in one sense the legality of an EO is the criterion on which it should be judged. You can't arrest or impeach the giver of a legal order for giving it. But legality does not make bad good, stupid smart, or wrong right, and we can still criticize them, still accuse the giver of those EO's of doing too much of it for the wrong reasons. Idiotic orders are still the orders of an idiot. That's an issue too.EOs are executive decree, and they're within the purview of the executive to issue. It's the same problem regardless of who's in the office, but the perspective that using EOs makes the president a fascist dictator is a new take on the problem.
Also worth considering that a substantial number of EOs from each president in the past few decades have been reversing the EOs of prior administrations. I'm not going to go count, but IIRC something like 100 of the EOs from Trump in 2025 were reversing EOs from Biden and Obama. That sort of thing makes it rather difficult to ferret out what orders are actually alterations - if Bob says "all must do X" and Alex comes in the next year and says "Nobody is required to do X" is that really a problem?
At the end of the day,
the issue should come down to whether or not the orders being issued are within the actual authority of the executive to issue.
EOs are executive decree, and they're within the purview of the executive to issue. It's the same problem regardless of who's in the office, but the perspective that using EOs makes the president a fascist dictator is a new take on the problem.
Also worth considering that a substantial number of EOs from each president in the past few decades have been reversing the EOs of prior administrations. I'm not going to go count, but IIRC something like 100 of the EOs from Trump in 2025 were reversing EOs from Biden and Obama. That sort of thing makes it rather difficult to ferret out what orders are actually alterations - if Bob says "all must do X" and Alex comes in the next year and says "Nobody is required to do X" is that really a problem?
At the end of the day, the issue should come down to whether or not the orders being issued are within the actual authority of the executive to issue.
Wait...is THIS how we win against Tr*mpism? (Parkrose Permaculture on YouTube, April 15, 2026 – 9:58 min.)
7:57--> We're not here with our heads in the sand insisting everything is fine. We're not Chuck Schumer saying, "No, no, no. this is politics as usual, and let's just vote the Republicans out in the midterms and everything will be hunky dory."
No, we're not. We're not being polyanas. We're not having toxic positivity. We are understanding the severity of the moment, and we are choosing not to give up. We are choosing to seize that moment and to claim it for us, the American people, and then work to build the future of this country that we need and deserve and we can achieve.
We're not saying that things are easy. We're not saying that they're hunky dory. We're acknowledging that things are really hard and we are really strapped, and we're saying in the midst of all of this turmoil and the way that things are feeling really awful and that real harm is being done, we are refusing to accept this as normal, and we are refusing to accept it as the future of this country.
Scot* goes on to talk about messaging and how we want to frame our conversations, so that courage can be contagious and the stubborn refusal to give up can be contagious.
He says, ""I haven't given up" defines itself against surrender. "I refuse" is an identity. It is who you are, not a description of your stamina.
Movement communicators need to make this shift consistently and consciously. You are not the person who kept going despite everything. You are the person who refuses, full stop."
This part right here, the deepest driver of the refusal identity, the '◊◊◊◊ you, make me' identity, is the belief that it matters. Small concrete winnable arguments are not distractions from the big work. They are the mechanism by which the refusal spreads.
Courage is contagious. Right? People who experience collective efficacy recruit others.
People who experience only sacrifice do not. Joy in this moment is not denial. It is defiance. It's the insistence that we will not become the grim version of ourselves that they need us to become.
This is the part of the story where we find out who we are.
It's how some people in this thread want the resistance to feel. It's the point of Stout's false claims: All the protesters are boomers! There aren't any young people!Make the Refusal to Quit Go Viral by Scot Nakagawa (Anti-Authoritarian Playbook on Substack, April 7, 2026)
The Problem We Need to Name
Something has gone subtly wrong in the culture of democratic resistance, and it is costing us.
Exhaustion has become a virtue. In movement spaces - in our meetings, our social feeds, our conversations - the dominant signal is overwhelm. And because human beings are profoundly social creatures who take their emotional cues from their communities, something predictable has happened: people perform exhaustion in order to belong, and then, inevitably, they begin to feel what they perform.
Every movement needs terrorists willing to harm civilians so they get their way?I don't see it as changing gears, rather adding another prong of attack.
Every movement needs a peaceful political wing as well as a pool of individuals willing to cause disruption and destruction of property and profits to make it too costly not to negotiate and compromise.
What do you think the Proud Boys and Oathkeeprss are?Every movement needs terrorists willing to harm civilians so they get their way?
Terrorists, same as several other groups that regularly enact violence against people and property in support of their pet cause.What do you think the Proud Boys and Oathkeeprss are?
I don't draw nearly as strong a distinction as you do. I'm pretty sure if I burned your house down as a "protest" against the government, you wouldn't be so sanguine about it.The difference is weather property or people are being targeted.
I would be more bothered if you burned down my mumI don't draw nearly as strong a distinction as you do. I'm pretty sure if I burned your house down as a "protest" against the government, you wouldn't be so sanguine about it.
There is really no need to to make those distinctions: while harming people is obviously in a higher class of 'bad', both are reprehensible.Tell me EC: what kinds of property damage are worse than hurting and killing people?
No.Terrorism has always been by a wide margin what States do against each and against parts of their own population.