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Did Epstein run a World Satanic Ring?

Here's what grinds my ◊◊◊◊◊◊◊ gears:

Kook: *makes zany claim A*
Others: "Sorry, what?"
Kook: *delivers page long dissertation with circles and arrows indicating the web of intrigue about utterly unrelated ◊◊◊◊, peppered with insults about how the little brains can't process it*
 
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i think they were using modeling agencies to find girls, offering them lucrative opportunities to lure them to the island, and then the implication. particularly from overseas
 
Vixen said:
That again is a solipsistic logical fallacy. Just because something is abstract, it doesn't mean it cannot exist, as many philosophers have argued abstract ideas do exist in reality. For example, Plato and the existence of the abstract principles of justice, beauty, love and the virtues. Theologists have argued long and hard about the polar ideas of good ~vs~ evil. The Greek and Roman pantheon of gods were all perpetually battling over this in the heavens above them. We see this in biblical versions, with an incessant almighty battle taking place in the heavens, as symbolized by St. Michael ~vs~ the dragon (good ~vs~ evil: 'as above, so below' ~ the Occult; 'Thy will be done, On earth as it is in heaven' ~ the Lord's Prayer) So yes, it doesn't mean anything to say you do not believe in evil, because you can do a university course in the philosophy of virtue, which implies there must ipso facto be its opposite, for there to be . So, it could be argued that in our western civilisation we are encouraged to be virtuous, as it were, then it follows that there is a choice to be evil. So whilst most people will adhere to the nuclear family model, of love and faithfulness and hopefully, marriage until 'death us do part', others will be indulging in transgressing all that others see as virtuous and good. IF Epstein was torturing, raping and killing young children and young adults for his clients' entertainment, or even running baby farms with enforced surrogates unable to escape, then I think some might be justified in calling it 'evil'. We don't know if any of this happened - other than the word of Guiffre, Farmer and co., as it has never been tried in court nor brought to light. We now know Prince Andrew had up to 90 Lolita Express planes flown into the UK over the years. Only time can tell whether there was anything abominable about it. Demanding proof - as some are doing - when the FBI and the USA have done exactly nothing about the allegations except to cover them up is not reasonable at this stage.
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And this is why you continue to fail.

What we're dealing with here is an actual conspiracy made from a number of smaller conspiracies involving financial institutions, wealthy individuals, US, UK, and various other government oversight agencies, the FBI, and DoJ. We know these conspiracies are real because people who worked in these various agencies and bureaus have come forward to talk about the investigations, and how they would be dropped somewhere up the chain of management.

Nobody here disputes this.

And yet these facts are not enough for people like you. I'm a reasonable man, and I'm a patriotic American (although not so much these days). I am troubled, disgusted, and angry that my government has not been doing it's job across multiple agencies for no other reason than a few of Epstein's clients are politically connected, and there could be vast repercussions in the financial world if investigations advanced beyond a certain point, and or if indictments, and prosecutions were initiated. Either EVERYONE IS EQUAL UNDER THE LAW, OR THEY ARE NOT. In the United States, our legal system only works if the citizens trust that it is applied fairly. But people like you need this to be about sex, spies, and Satanic cults. Based on your track record here this is because you live in a fantasy world where shadowy groups control everything from access to the royal family to sinking a ferry. You ignore the actual conspiracies, and blow smoke about tabloid sideshows.

This scandal SHOULD BE an opportunity to reevaluate how sex crimes are handled by the FBI and DoJ. This should be a time when FBI and DoJ management is called on the carpet for their cowardice, incompetence, and negligence. I want those responsible to be compelled to defend their actions or inactions in front of Congress. I want careers ended, policies amended, or discarded. I want an FBI that goes just as hard at the rich and powerful as they do street thugs. But right now, the guy whose name appears the most in the current batch of Epstein files is also the President of the United States. A man who wears his corruption on his sleeve. The same man who was in the Oval Office when Epstein was "left unattended" in a federal jail cell.

And people like you who blow smoke about Satanic cults, and other nonsense are only HELPING obscure the truth.
 
Thermal said:
Honestly? I'd make a call or two till I was confident there was nothing to it, just in the interests of due diligence.
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Thing here is agency is going to pay for information in advance. They always pay up after a body is located, and sometimes not until a successful prosecution. And they never pay Bitcoin.
 
Axxman300 said:
Thing here is agency is going to pay for information in advance. They always pay up after a body is located, and sometimes not until a successful prosecution. And they never pay Bitcoin.
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Oh, agreed. There was pretty much no way this was ever anything but a cheap street corner hustle. But the Feds, I would think have an ethical obligation to at least confirm that it appears to be nothing with a call or two, rather than write the whole thing off based on white might be a faulty recollection from the DJ. Just make sure it's nothing, then forget about it.
 
From what little I understand of human nature, rich people are just as likely to be superstitious as poor people. Some of them will be ruthlessly rational. Others will hedge their bets and pray to Satan, just in case he has some influence over their fortunes. Still others will go all in on prosperity rituals with their attendant ritual sacrifices. And of course, as with any religion, some will be in it purely for the gift.

I honestly wouldn't be surprised if Epstein was at least a shareholder in a world Satanic ring, if only to gain access to and build trust with wealthy idiots.
 
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theprestige said:
From what little I understand of human nature, rich people are just as likely to be superstitious as poor people. Some of them will be ruthlessly rational. Others will hedge their bets and pray to Satan, just in case he has some influence over their fortunes. Still others will go all in on prosperity rituals with their attendant ritual sacrifices. And of course, as with any religion, some will be in it purely for the gift.

I honestly wouldn't be surprised if Epstein was at least a shareholder in a world Satanic ring, if only to gain access to and build trust with wealthy idiots.
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I'd be willing to buy that the rich would be tempted to dabble in this kind of stuff just for the esoteric indulgence and that feeling of mysterious power. I mean, you got the money and all the mundane management that goes with it; why not take some time off for exotic role playing?
 
Thermal said:
I'd be willing to buy that the rich would be tempted to dabble in this kind of stuff just for the esoteric indulgence and that feeling of mysterious power. I mean, you got the money and all the mundane management that goes with it; why not take some time off for exotic role playing?
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I've met a few of those people over the years. Their wealth insulates them from vast swaths of reality leaving them vulnerable to spiritual scam artists of every stripe. History is full of wealthy, powerful people being willingly coopted by cults, shaman, voodoo, and extremist branches of the main religions going all the way back.

Who knows with Epstein?

Something lost in all the files is there is very little personal information about him. Most of what the public knows is what he put out there, marketed to his "clients", and "friends". Obviously wasn't religious. His island is decorated to give the impression he was a student of history, but only on the exterior. I see this in Pebble Beach and Carmel Valley where mansions are decorated with statues of Greek or Roman gods the owner knows nothing about, and their bookshelves are filled with books they've never read, placed by interior designers to impress their guests.

As far as exotic role-playing goes, the single common factor in their dark-art-of-choice is sex. Like 97% of the time, just an excuse to have an orgy with other select people.
 
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