These are homeopathic medicines?

Dr. A Sheikh said:
provide eviddence.
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Here is eviddence.

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James Randi, some time ago.

I assume that was the kind of eviddence you wanted? I've noticed that in response to others' requests for evidence you tend to post photos instead, so I assume this is what you were asking for.
 
Dr. A Sheikh said:
MAS prize is real. JREF prize unclear.
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Is this what it boils down to now?

I am sure you have already seen the statement from Goldman-Sachs about the money. Would Dr. MAS kindly provide us with something similar to prove the existence of his prize?
 
The_Fire said:
No need. The JREF can provide evidence that their million exist. Can you provide evidence that your million exist? No? Then you lie.
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Can you provide that jref prize exists. just giving a statement or visit this and that site is not acceptable. Show us.
 
In every clinical test ever, homeopathic and herbal medicines have done exactly as well as placebo in curing illnesses.
 
steenkh said:
Is this what it boils down to now?

I am sure you have already seen the statement from Goldman-Sachs about the money. Would Dr. MAS kindly provide us with something similar to prove the existence of his prize?
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Yes, according to mas store, saeed issued the statement it exists.

My dear show me the money of JREF. We will also you the prize money of our claim.
 
Dr. A Sheikh said:
Can you provide that jref prize exists. just giving a statement or visit this and that site is not acceptable. Show us.
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Read the JREF Faq here:

http://www.randi.org/research/faq.html#3.1

If you use the link provided you will see the actual paperwork filed by the JREF and see that they have assets in excess of the prive money, if you still aren't satisfied, do as the Faq suggests and contact the bond agent.

The fact that you can't even read or comprehend the JREF rules, makes me think you haven't the remotest chance of claiming the prize.
 
J. Arthur Hastur said:
In every clinical test ever, homeopathic and herbal medicines have done exactly as well as placebo in curing illnesses.
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Jocce, Also write this statement in your letter and do some blessing on us. And told them, what they (Pakistani parlimenaterians) are doing are rubbish. They are going to prove a homeopathic drug act 2006 in just two weeks. Also ask them to change the name as "placebo drug act 2006"
 
Dr. A Sheikh said:
Yes, according to mas store, saeed issued the statement it exists.

My dear show me the money of JREF. We will also you the prize money of our claim.
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Oh well, if MAS says saeed says it's there, then it's there.

By the way, can saeed get me any more of those end-of-line TVs? Where does he get them from anyway?
 
Dr. A Sheikh said:
Jocce, Also write this statement in your letter and do some blessing on us. And told them, what they (Pakistani parlimenaterians) are doing are rubbish. They are going to prove a homeopathic drug act 2006 in just two weeks. Also ask them to change the name as "placebo drug act 2006"
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I would, but I am not Pakistani. Whatever nonsense you and lobbying groups get the Pakistani Parliament to pass as law is irrelevant. Just because something is 'legal' does not make it scientificaly proven or effective.

That would be like me saying 'The United States legally recognizes english weight and distance measurements rather than metric measurements so the English scales are the more scientifically accurate.' that statement, like yours , would be rubbish.

Governments pass idiotic laws all the time, using them to support your 'science' just further proves that your claims are baseless.
 
J. Arthur Hastur said:
Read the JREF Faq here:

http://www.randi.org/research/faq.html#3.1

If you use the link provided you will see the actual paperwork filed by the JREF and see that they have assets in excess of the prive money, if you still aren't satisfied, do as the Faq suggests and contact the bond agent.

The fact that you can't even read or comprehend the JREF rules, makes me think you haven't the remotest chance of claiming the prize.
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Why don't you not understand that mas prize has its own rule. these rules cannot be compared with anyone else.

MAs prize is simple to claim

prove what do you want to prove
write your claim
write your procedure
write your conclusion
write your address and cv
and send and win.


While jref prize does not exist. REad

http://www.nch.ipbfree.com/index.php?showtopic=585

Hans: "Well, if you can prove homeopathy scientifically, on paper, you might also win a Nobel prize. But not the JREF prize, since if you can prove it that way, it is not paranormal "just" new science."

My understanding on the above mentioned para is that JREF is offering a prize for those who will prove a paranormal thing and if you prove a paranormal thing then it means that thing was not paranormal
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Therefore, the winning prize cannot be claimed.
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Dr. A Sheikh I have read everything that you have posted and most of what you are posting is an attack on the JREF organization and prize, it has nothing to do with proving or debating your claim of scientifically verifiable homeopathic cures.

The fact that you attack the JREF rather than submitting to an actual scientific test of your cliams shows that you have only one motive and that is to attempt to attack and discredit the JREF. Why? Who knows, but you obviously have nothing worthwhile to to test, or else you'd be a million doallars richer.

My guess is that you have a psychological urge to lash out at those who do not believe in your 'cures'. I suggest that you have a drink and a quiet nap and then try and find out why you must resort to attacking others, rather than actually actively proving your case. You have offered nothing in the way of reasoned thinking, take some time to sort things out.

Respectfully yours,

J. Arthur Hastur, LL.B., B.C.L, B.D

P.S.
They do have psychiatrists in Pakistan? They can be very helpful.
 
MAS prize is a lie, JREF prize is a real.

Non-Mas-Sheikh is a lying. JREF is real.

I can see JREF dollars.
I can't see Non-Mas-Sheikh dollars(rupees).

This proof of lie by Non-Mas-Sheikh.
 
Posted by Dr. Sajid on the NCH Forum given in Dr. A Sheikh's signature in reference to his MAS prize:

You are right. That I was trying to convice you. This forum has no link with MAS activities and prize. MAS is simple member of this forum as other people can become. They try to fool you. Try to understand the situation. Discuss this bogus claim at J forum only. This forum has no place for such discussion.
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Dr. A Sheikh was indeed posting fraudulent claims about any 'MAS Challenge'
 
Dr. A Sheikh said:
Jocce, Also write this statement in your letter and do some blessing on us. And told them, what they (Pakistani parlimenaterians) are doing are rubbish. They are going to prove a homeopathic drug act 2006 in just two weeks. Also ask them to change the name as "placebo drug act 2006"
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Ok sweety. I'll tell them you said the act rubbish. I'm sure they appreciate your comments. Call again if I can do something else for you dear.
 
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