Does 'rape culture' accurately describe (many) societies?

[theprestige]

Not so.

Okay, that's fair. Lewis didn't actually foresee the perils of widespread sex addiction ("gooner nation"). But he very much did predict the advent of teledildonics, and network-mediated sexual intercourse. He predicted that network-mediated sex would become a depersonalized, ultimately anti-social thing. And he did indeed make this prediction in 1945, or earlier.

 

[acbytesla]

I swear this is like arguing with a Christian that insists the God of the Bible didn't endorse slavery. They bounce around like a pinball machine and are never honest interlocutors. Barely legal is legal. There aren't a bunch of 15 year olds appearing in those videos.

 

[Poem]

I swear this is like arguing with a Christian that insists the God of the Bible didn't endorse slavery. They bounce around like a pinball machine and are never honest interlocutors. Barely legal is legal. There aren't a bunch of 15 year olds appearing in those videos.

The reality: content described as barely legal (since it promotes child abuse) is illegal offline in the UK and the coming Crime and Policing Bill is intended to enforce that online.

 

[Poem]

Okay, that's fair. Lewis didn't actually foresee the perils of widespread sex addiction ("gooner nation"). But he very much did predict the advent of teledildonics, and network-mediated sexual intercourse. He predicted that network-mediated sex would become a depersonalized, ultimately anti-social thing. And he did indeed make this prediction in 1945, or earlier.

Seems to be some truth in this. Prescient.

 

[sphenisc]

Okay, that's fair. Lewis didn't actually foresee the perils of widespread sex addiction ("gooner nation"). But he very much did predict the advent of teledildonics, and network-mediated sexual intercourse. He predicted that network-mediated sex would become a depersonalized, ultimately anti-social thing. And he did indeed make this prediction in 1945, or earlier.

Link?

 

[acbytesla]

The reality: content described as barely legal (since it promotes child abuse) is illegal offline in the UK and the coming Crime and Policing Bill is intended to enforce that online.

How many times are you going to repeat this obvious lie?

IT DOES NONE OF THAT. Barely legal is exactly that. LEGAL! It is not child pornography. It is individuals who have reached the age of 18 appearing in sexually explicit videos. Legal adults who can vote, serve in the military and can make contractual agreements. It is not child abuse in any way.

 

[Poem]

How many times are you going to repeat this obvious lie?

IT DOES NONE OF THAT. Barely legal is exactly that. LEGAL! It is not child pornography. It is individuals who have reached the age of 18 appearing in sexually explicit videos. Legal adults who can vote, serve in the military and can make contractual agreements. It is not child abuse in any way.

Your argument is with all the people I have been quoting which, for some reason, you have decided to blank out.

UK pornography taskforce to propose banning ‘barely legal’ content after Channel 4 documentary airs

 

[theprestige]

Link?

It comes up towards the end of That Hideous Strength. The new regime's vision of the future of humanity.

 

[acbytesla]

Your argument is with all the people I have been quoting which, for some reason, you have decided to blank out.

UK pornography taskforce to propose banning ‘barely legal’ content after Channel 4 documentary airs

No, my problem is with you. I read that vague nonsense. Nowhere in it does it say that pornography labeled "barely legal" involves children at all. That article you linked says none of the bs you keep posting.

 

[Poem]

No, my problem is with you. I read that vague nonsense. Nowhere in it does it say that pornography labeled "barely legal" involves children at all. That article you linked says none of the bs you keep posting.

I have never said barely legal involves children. The article has:
Lady Bertin said she planned to lodge amendments to the crime and policing bill in the autumn to make it illegal for online platforms to host any content that could encourage child sexual abuse, including pornography filmed by adults dressed as children.

You aren't happy with anyone who describes content you deem perfectly fine as potentially encouraging child sex abuse.

 

[acbytesla]

I have never said barely legal involves children. The article has:
Lady Bertin said she planned to lodge amendments to the crime and policing bill in the autumn to make it illegal for online platforms to host any content that could encourage child sexual abuse, including pornography filmed by adults dressed as children.

You aren't happy with anyone who describes content you deem perfectly fine as potentially encouraging child sex abuse.

Who cares what this crusading women plans on doing? You keep misrepresenting and gaslighting the thread.

 

[arthwollipot]

Are you saying that kids watching an adult have sex with what looks looks like a child is healthy (see below)?

They don't look like children.

(old guy grabbing what looks like a kid by the throat)

They don't look like children.

Kids watch what looks like someone their own age getting ploughed

They don't look like children.

They are deliberately made to look underage with props, clothes, pigtails and speech etc that gives the impression of youth.

They don't look like children.

including pornography filmed by adults dressed as children.

They don't look like children.

 

[acbytesla]

They don't look like children.

They don't look like children.

They don't look like children.

They don't look like children.

They don't look like children.

He can't help himself Art. Poem repeats over and over a false premise and insists we address his flawed syllogisms.

 

[TragicMonkey]

He can't help himself Art. Poem repeats over and over a false premise and insists we address his flawed syllogisms.

Well, it's worked for him for 110 pages so far, no reason for him to stop now.

 

[Poem]

They don't look like children.

They don't look like children.

They don't look like children.

They don't look like children.

They don't look like children.

I refer you back to that Christian documentary. They look like children. Bertin says they look like children. The Children's Commissioner, Bernardo's etc etc. Lots of people think they look like children. The UK bans that type of material offline and will ban it online. Okay?

 

[arthwollipot]

I refer you back to that Christian documentary. They look like children. Bertin says they look like children. The Children's Commissioner, Bernardo's etc etc. Lots of people think they look like children. The UK bans that type of material offline and will ban it online. Okay?

Anyone who has had children knows that they don't look like children.

They are dressed like children. But it is in the nature of porn that the costume inevitably comes off, and you can see the fully adult body underneath.

They don't look like children.

 

[acbytesla]

I refer you back to that Christian documentary. They look like children. Bertin says they look like children. The Children's Commissioner, Bernardo's etc etc. Lots of people think they look like children. The UK bans that type of material offline and will ban it online. Okay?

Anyone who has had children knows that they don't look like children.

They are dressed like children. But it is in the nature of porn that the costume inevitably comes off, and you can see the fully adult body underneath.

They don't look like children.

Yeah, Poem, like this is an unbiased source. If Christians say it, it must be true?

Except the problem is Christians lie incessantly to advance their religions. The patently dishonest discourse dominates their attempts to make us bow to their phony and disgusting god. Liars for Christ, as I like to describe them. And that is all your documentary proves.

 

[Poem]

Anyone who has had children knows that they don't look like children.

They are dressed like children. But it is in the nature of porn that the costume inevitably comes off, and you can see the fully adult body underneath.

They don't look like children.

If they didn't look like children then the UK's porn taskforce would not be trying to shut it down online. And I'll quote Darat again:

I strongly disagree, I think it's a good law as it helps create a more distinct boundary between legal and illegal in an area where that is very important. There is no good reason for making pornography for adults that blurs the line between pornography and child abuse. And it only works one way - there is nothing illegal for instance if you want to make pornography that features an 18 year old and a seventy year old.

The current situation is that the porn that was described in your quotation is illegal, it is prosecuted when cases can be made, people go to prison. I can't think how clearer as a society we can be that we find such porn not only wrong but abhorrent.

(My emphasis.)

 

[Poem]

Yeah, Poem, like this is an unbiased source. If Christians say it, it must be true?

Except the problem is Christians lie incessantly to advance their religions. The patently dishonest discourse dominates their attempts to make us bow to their phony and disgusting god. Liars for Christ, as I like to describe them. And that is all your documentary proves.

Bertin's research is nothing to do with religion and she is not trying to ban all porn. Why don't you at least attempt to get your facts straight?

 

[acbytesla]

Bertin's research is nothing to do with religion and she is not trying to ban all porn. Why don't you at least attempt to get your facts straight?

Bull.

Bertin doesn't present evidence. She expresses her opinion.