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Split Thread Are Antifa and violent leftists the cause of everything wrong in America?

Opcode said:
"Arrow's Impossibility Theorem

"The theorem, developed by economist Kenneth Arrow in his 1951 doctoral thesis, mathematically proves a fundamental issue in social choice theory. It states that when voters are asked to rank three or more distinct options (or candidates), no ranked-voting electoral system can convert these individual preference rankings into a single, community-wide, ranked preference order while simultaneously satisfying a specific set of seemingly basic and reasonable "fairness" criteria."

Gemini goes into more details, but I just wanted to point out that having more than two political parties cannot result in fair elections.
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Gemini's and your conclusion is wrong. Arrow's Impossibility Theorem is only valid for ranked-voting systems.

The U.S. two-party system is bad because like in all countries, voters tend to distribute themselves equally around the middle, and when you only have two parties represented, the winning party will have only a tiny majority of the voters behind it (well, in the US system a party can even win without a majority of the voters behind it). This means that it is possible for the election result to dramatically swing from one election to another even though only few voters change their mind. I say "dramatically" because the two parties have to have very different policies in order to encompass their own half of the voting population, and the result is political instability.

If there were multiple parties, a single party will seldomly be able to get a majority, and parties need to cooperate in order to govern, and this will tend to increase stability. Of course, multiple parties do not guarantee stability, and parties may form blocks that can work like two-party systems.
 
Opcode said:
Congressional voting on Presidential nominees is part of Congress' Constitutionally mandated job. Shutting down the government because you want your tax-and-spend bad idea passed is not.
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The geniuses who created the idea that government should shut down if politicians can't agree on a budget, also made it Congress' job to shutdown government on disagreements.
 
Opcode said:
I'm sure that the people who lost their businesses or saw their friends die don't see it that way. The former were terrorist activities ...
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No. Protests which turn to riots when they're stupidly policed are a disaster but are not acts of terrorism. Labelling the perpetrators of violent and destructive behaviour does not make them collectively a terrorist organisation.
 
Opcode said:
... As for the election, despite assurances to the contrary, the voting results do look strange. It's odd that the candidate whose few public appearances were barely attended had more votes than the candidate whose many appearances had packed venues. It's odd that the election results depended so heavily on voting by mail. Of course, the mere fact that a major election was held during a pandemic, under very dissimilar public distancing rules nationwide, meant it was a weird year in general.
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Evidence indicating the election was somehow stolen does not appear to exist. Evidence of people behaving as if there were some kind of global pandemic in 2020 is not the evidence you need.
 
Pixel42 said:
Maybe it's because the former was ordinary citizens protesting about legitimate grievances, and the latter was incited by a sitting President in an attempt to prevent the peaceful transition of power to his fairly elected successor?
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That went right over Opcode's head.

Opcode's still blaming everything on violent, antifa, leftist with no proof, except a need to own the libs.

Every time they post on here, it's the same old garbage based on the same old lie that if anyone is violent, it's a lefty doing it, pretending to be antifa.

Obviously, they must think antifa is the new Illuminati running things in a secret room under a pizza house somewhere in Texas with tentacles that reach inside every lefty's brain.

Someone needs to call Robert Langdon, or maybe just rename this thread, "Proof that Trumpsplaining is the New Stupid" instead.
 
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Opcode said:
We don't have any fascist leaders in the Republican Party. We have a lot of kooks, some extremists, but no actual fascists. The term is used hyperbolically by the opposition.
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thaiboxerken

Ed Thread 'The Fascism Checklist, Trump 2025'

Let's make a checklist of what Trumpand the GOP will do to centralize power and turn the USA into a managed-Democracy, like Russia.

1. Censor the media
2. Change election laws in such a way that opposition parties will never win.
3. Weaponise the judicial system and DOJ to investigate and prosecute dissenters.
4. Give tax cuts to the wealthy and oligarchs to have their continued support.
5. Internment camps for immigrants.
6. Give the police unchecked power.
7. Use the military on protesters.

Please add and let's check off these things as they happen to illustrate to those who don't...
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there’s a thread for that discussion here where there’s a mountain of evidence to back up the claim. you’re free to disagree but to call it hyperbole is badly misinformed
 
dirtywick said:
thaiboxerken

Ed Thread 'The Fascism Checklist, Trump 2025'

Let's make a checklist of what Trumpand the GOP will do to centralize power and turn the USA into a managed-Democracy, like Russia.

1. Censor the media
2. Change election laws in such a way that opposition parties will never win.
3. Weaponise the judicial system and DOJ to investigate and prosecute dissenters.
4. Give tax cuts to the wealthy and oligarchs to have their continued support.
5. Internment camps for immigrants.
6. Give the police unchecked power.
7. Use the military on protesters.

Please add and let's check off these things as they happen to illustrate to those who don't...
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there’s a thread for that discussion here where there’s a mountain of evidence to back up the claim. you’re free to disagree but to call it hyperbole is badly misinformed
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Yup, more proof that trumpsplaining is the new stupid.
 
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Here's some more proof that trumpsplaing is the new stupid:

Jan. 6 rioter accused of firing gun, said he had 'nothing to worry about' because he predicted pardon, is back behind bars for alleged kidnapping

An Illinois man accused of firing a gun into the air during the Jan. 6 riots at the U.S. Capitol finds himself back behind bars after he was arrested for a felony warrant out of Utah.
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The Cook County Sheriff's Office said Friday in a social media post that it arrested 40-year-old John Banuelos on Oct. 17 after Salt Lake County issued a warrant for Banuelos' arrest for aggravated kidnapping and aggravated sexual assault.
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(SNIP)

But of course, the stupid fat clown and his mentally deranged maga weirdoes will call him a violent, antifa lefty.
 
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AmyStrange said:
It's not funny you silly lefty.

JFC, you're no better than that other deranged lefty, Hitler.

(Do I really need to put a sarcasm tag here?)
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Well... maybe for Trausti and Opcode, who seem to be living in an alternate reality called the Fat Clown's Fantasy Land.
 
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Pixel42 said:
Then you should be able to point to evidence of their existence, leadership, membership, meetings, agenda and tactics, all going back many decades. Please do so.
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Good luck with that Pixel42, I've been trying to get an answer to that question for more than a week now.

Opcode will probably ignore you like he's ignoring me, although to be fair, they probably can't answer because they have no proof, just blanket statements that prove once again that trumpsplaining is the new stupid.
 
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Opcode said:
I'm not Wikipedia. Do your own research. Buy my book if I publish.
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There you go Pixel42. I was right... again.

Opcode has no proof, just a bunch of blanket statements that prove they're living in the Fat Clown's Fantasy Land.

Why am I not surprised?
 
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Opcode said:
.... It's odd how the Left can ignore an entire Summer of multiple riots by Leftists (including Antifa and BLM) that caused many millions of dollars in damages to private and public property, but obsess on a single riot where nobody died.
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Have any names of these leftists?

One rioter died during the J6 riot and Trump ensure her family was paid handsomely for it. Where are you getting your "facts" from anyway?
 
Opcode said:
A President is not in charge of Congressional budget negotiations. If the people who elected the Congressmen wanted Congress to fund these demands, Congress would have. As you said, the Republicans own the three branches, at least for now.
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Trump has repeatedly claimed he can force Congress' budget negotiations. Was he lying?
 
Ranb said:
Have any names of these leftists?

One rioter died during the J6 riot and Trump ensure her family was paid handsomely for it. Where are you getting your "facts" from anyway?
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The Fat Clown's Fantasy Land where all you need to enter is proof that you're low-IQ, stupid.
 
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