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Split Thread Are Antifa and violent leftists the cause of everything wrong in America?

Norman Alexander said:
An interview??? Looks like the Oregon Dope Smokers Collective on a binge. ;)

Yep, they are a bunch of ragged, gap-toothed, straggle-haired, aging hippies who all probably need a decent bath. But they were not the ones throwing rocks and breaking stuff. They were just wearing inflatable frog outfits and chanting stuff (and playing the guitars badly - aargh!). That hardly makes them "international terrorists". In fact, if I was investing millions into organising a serious international terror group, these people would not get invited to the first interviews. But they are genuine and they are fun, and they are SO American! Are they anti-fascist? Definitely! Are they part of an internationally organised "antifa" group? Nope! :)
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Where can I sign up, but I want you to know first that I smoke pot and faint at any kind of violence, and will that be a problem?

On the flip side, I do know how to make an awesome torpedo sandwich.

Call me at 1-FAT-CLOWN-SUCKS (don't bother with the last three letters. They're only there for show... bwahahahahaha)
 
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Norman Alexander said:
An interview??? Looks like the Oregon Dope Smokers Collective on a binge. ;)

Yep, they are a bunch of ragged, gap-toothed, straggle-haired, aging hippies who all probably need a decent bath. But they were not the ones throwing rocks and breaking stuff. They were just wearing inflatable frog outfits and chanting stuff (and playing the guitars badly - aargh!). That hardly makes them "international terrorists". In fact, if I was investing millions into organising a serious international terror group, these people would not get invited to the first interviews. But they are genuine and they are fun, and they are SO American! Are they anti-fascist? Definitely! Are they part of an internationally organised "antifa" group? Nope! :)
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the interview with the people claiming to be antifa starts at 24m
 
dirtywick said:
the interview with the people claiming to be antifa starts at 24m
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These guys?? These stupidly-masked kids wearing "black lefty uniforms" with kicker boots, sitting in front of a red-and-black German "antifa" banner and some weight-lifting kit beside what looks like a garage?

LOL! Yeah, sure! They are definitely organised lefty antifa hippies right there! :sarcasm:

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Norman Alexander said:
These guys?? These stupidly-masked kids wearing "black lefty uniforms" with kicker boots, sitting in front of a red-and-black German "antifa" banner and some weight-lifting kit beside what looks like a garage?

LOL! Yeah, sure! They are definitely organised lefty antifa hippies right there! :sarcasm:

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ok if you think they're lying or whatever that's your opinion i guess. not sure what you expect them to be tbh
 
dirtywick said:
ok if you think they're lying or whatever that's your opinion i guess. not sure what you expect them to be tbh
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Well, according to some of the mindless idiots who know these things, if they say they're antifa, then that's what they must be /sarcasm.
 
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dirtywick said:
ok if you think they're lying or whatever that's your opinion i guess. not sure what you expect them to be tbh
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Seriously?? Do we have to explain this crapulent cosplay to you? Maybe it's because we Australians are born with a skeptic gene or something. Those kids, and the interviewer, could not have made it more obvious that this was some two-bit junior school level satirical farce. It was pathetic, to the point of being hilariously pathetic. Not one bit of their narrative, or indeed the whole interview setup, was in any way believable.
 
Norman Alexander said:
Seriously?? Do we have to explain this crapulent cosplay to you? Maybe it's because we Australians are born with a skeptic gene or something. Those kids, and the interviewer, could not have made it more obvious that this was some two-bit junior school level satirical farce. It was pathetic, to the point of being hilariously pathetic. Not one bit of their narrative, or indeed the whole interview setup, was in any way believable.
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Actually, that violent look in their eyes is a dead giveaway /sarcasm.
 
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Norman Alexander said:
Seriously?? Do we have to explain this crapulent cosplay to you? Maybe it's because we Australians are born with a skeptic gene or something. Those kids, and the interviewer, could not have made it more obvious that this was some two-bit junior school level satirical farce. It was pathetic, to the point of being hilariously pathetic. Not one bit of their narrative, or indeed the whole interview setup, was in any way believable.
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you're already burning your not doing skepticism right because i don't agree with you card? too early in the game bro

i'll say it's pretty clear you don't know much about the channel. i'm not sure what this idea of what would be different about it if it was real is that's floating around in your head. like, the more organized antifa groups wouldn't sit down with their faces covered by a house with a weight lifting bench and explain what they think. if they did that, it would look completely different i'm sure. how crazy.

find me a real interview then. i'll watch it.
 
theprestige said:
I think the issue is, nobody can come up with a list of good things antifa-identifying people have done. During the 2020 Portland riots, violent demonstrators barricaded people inside a government building and then firebombed it. But that's not antifa, we're told. Antifa are the other guys. Well, which other guys? The ones running a food bank and a rehab center and a sober shelter? Nope. Antifa-identifying people don't play that. The entire brand of the movement is political violence. Anonymous, disavowable political violence.
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You're right. Us antifa HAVE commited "political violence." A shocking massive amounts of violence. We firebombed the ◊◊◊◊ out of Dresden, dropped two nuclear weapons on two different Japanese cities, sent fascists to their deaths by hanging and by firing squad. We hung Mussolini, and killed fascists and their defenders by the MILLIONS. And I am proud that both of my grandfathers heroically took part in wiping out that ideology from the face of Europe. My one grandfather was a Sicilian partisan that violently opposed Mussolini's illegal takeover of Italy, and my other grandfather valiantly defended his bomber as a tail gunner for 25 full missions while they annihilated entire cities. And I will forever regard them as heroes and men of great honor! And I WILL commit myself to following in their footsteps should traitors actually successfully and fully establish such regimes in MY country, here in the United States of America. Currently, our institutions are STILL strong enough to keep them in check. But you better damn well believe I am in full situational awareness mode.
 
Helen said:
You are so right; protesting is useless. It's not as if there was any blue wins on Tuesday. And, so you don't have to say it; of course that didn't have anything to do with getting frogs and grantifas out on the streets, it would of course have happened in exactly the same way if everybody had just stayed home and kept shtum. It's not as if people find hope and courage, and start taking action, when they realise that others agree with them, and will stand with them. Never, ever happens!

No, it's all just a cargo-cult. No plane will ever land on that pretend airstrip. Better do nothing. Or maybe just keep denying that fascism really is fascism, while the fascists openly discuss how to rig coming elections in favour of the fascists. Wait, what does that remind me of? The whole "deny they're fascists, and maybe they won't do fascist stuff"? Nope. Can't quite put my finger on it. Some kind of cult, maybe?
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Besides the effect of seeing a ◊◊◊◊◊◊◊◊ of people on the streets inspiring others of like-mind, which the default TRUE American mindset, that there are definitely a ◊◊◊◊◊◊◊◊ of others out there that are all willing to take a stand.... But also there is the whole: "The whole world is watching! The whole world is watching! The whole world is watching!" effect of seeing the terroristic brutish cowards in facemasks brutally attacking peaceful, unarmed crowds of ordinary folks exercising their CONSTITUTIONAL GUARANTEES of free speech, using ILLEGAL CHEMICAL WEAPONS on them that have been banned by the ENTIRE international community, even against other hostile soldiers in actual WARS.

That kind of ◊◊◊◊◊◊◊◊ tends to galvanize an even larger group of people. These sights have even caused libertarians to switch to voting for Democrats en masse! Which is why the deep red areas of Pennsylvania in my neck of the woods, amazingly didn't go nearly as far against the PA Democrat justices as it otherwise would have. (Pennsylvania's backwoods counties are mainly "libertarian" types, as opposed to outright neo-conservatives that the true MAGAts are. The sights of seeing government troops on US streets attacking ordinary people has really pissed off the libertarians to the point of actually voting "YES" for Democrats!)

There are still a ridiculous number of MAGATs here, of course, which why the usual counties still voted "NO" overall, but it was way too narrow of a vote for RepubliNazis in the counties that Trump easily and overwhelmingly won, not once, but TWICE! Which are the counties that both Bushes and Reagan have also easily won in their day.
 
theprestige said:
It's one thing to raise your voice in protest against monarchies everywhere, from wherever you happen to be.

It's another thing to gather in the center of one of the most anti-fascist cities in the country, to vandalize, burn, and loot it in the name of "anti-fascism".

Unless that's what anti-fascism actually is in practice? Gratuitous mayhem agains the nearest target, even if it doesn't make sense? Because that would explain a lot about how antifa behaves.
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You still pretend that protests are only about the immediate vicinity, and not, say the federal government? Doubling down on that doesn't make it more believable, you know.

And ratcheting things up to "vandalism, burn[ing], and loot[ing] in the name of anti-fascism?" Man, I'm sure you can do better than that. Bait has to be believable.
 
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Gulliver Foyle said:
What crime did she actually commit? And I'm not asking for what SA-ICE fitted her up for neither.
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Alissa Azar was officially found guilty of riot and second-degree disorderly conduct, just like the first article that I posted said. That's not merely ICE's accusation against her; that's what the court handed down.

Azar found guilty after 2021 clash with Proud Boys at Clackamette Park | Clackamas County

Alissa Azar was found guilty by a Clackamas County jury Aug. 14 on charges related to a 2021 riot in Oregon City that involved a clash between Antifa and Proud Boys.
www.clackamas.us www.clackamas.us
 
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