Wow, UK has lost freedom of speech

[catsmate]

I think the big issue here is that Freedom of Speech means one thing in the USA and another thing in the UK.

Yes. So stop trying to foist the USAian version on others. And, while this might surprise you, there are many, many otehr countries.

 

[Hercules56]

You're fixated on the wrong things.

No, at least not with regards to US law.

 

[catsmate]

Intentionally and repeatedly being a dick to your coworkers is indeed a problem. People should be able to go to work without being subject to sexual harassment, and if you insist on sexually harassing them, a penalty seems appropriate.

That's crazy talk. You're obviously a communist and should be locked up for saying such things.

 

[Hercules56]

So no evidence to support your claim then?
Typical.

My claim is fully supported.

 

[Hercules56]

Terrorists, definitionally, are criminal actors against a state and it's population. And yeah, we even have a recognized list.

https://www.state.gov/foreign-terrorist-organizations

That's for FOREIGN terror groups. Not domestic. There is no such thing in the USA as a official domestic terrorist organization.

 

[Ziggurat]

No, at least not with regards to US law.

You just proved me right that you're focusing on the wrong things, because this thread isn't about US law.

 

[Helen]

It's only freedom of speech if It's found in the first  arondissement amendment, otherwise it's just sparkling words.

 

[catsmate]

This thread keeps giving. We have citizens of the US here bemoaning the lack of freedoms to speech and other things in the UK when, as we speak, US citizens are being dragged off the streets with no warrant and due cause, handcuffed and imprisoned for being not white.

No doubt I will get a response “But Trump, different”, which is utter ◊◊◊◊◊◊◊◊.

Get your own house in order before criticising others yanks.

But whining about some supposed "freedom of speech" deficit in the UK distracts USAians from having to think about the things the Rapist-in-Chief is doing.

 

[catsmate]

We are talking about government censorship and prosecution.

Not what private businesses do.

Ah, the classic USAian excuse. It's a "private business.

 

[Emily's Cat]

The same way we all do.

That's a non-answer, Darat. It's damned close to admitting that there's no actual basis for determining when it is and when it is not racism, and it allows malicious assumptions that inflame the public.

 

[catsmate]

Just a reminder, this thread is about being sent to jail, fined, or other government enforced penalty for speech in public.

So you're returning to the nonsense you started with?


Just to remind everyone, it's still Banned Books Week in USAia.

Banned Books Week | October 5-11, 2025

bannedbooksweek.org

Chaired this year by George Takei.

“Our ‘government of the people, by the people, for the people’ depends on a public that is informed and empathetic, and books teach us both information and empathy. Yet the right to read is now under attack from school boards and politicians across America. I’m proud to serve as honorary chair of Banned Books Week, because I remember all too well the lack of access to books and media that I needed growing up. First as a child in a barbed-wire prison camp, then as a gay young man in the closet, I felt confused and hungry for understanding about myself and the world around me. Now, as an author, I share my own stories so that new generations will be better informed about their history and themselves. Please stand with me in opposing censorship, so that we all can find ourselves — and each other — in books.”

 

[Darat]

That's a non-answer, Darat. It's damned close to admitting that there's no actual basis for determining when it is and when it is not racism, and it allows malicious assumptions that inflame the public.

You have no way to determine if someone is a racist? I find that quite unbelievable!

 

[catsmate]

Just a reminder, North was not sent to jail, fined, or endures any other government enforced penalty. He was arrested and questioned, having a long track record of arrests and racial.agitation. He has not been charged or incarcerated.

Facts have no place in either organised religion o political debate.

 

[catsmate]

No, it really doesn't.

True. In USAia he's probably have been either shot by police numerous times or congratulated by them.

 

[Hercules56]

Ah, the classic USAian excuse. It's a "private business.

In America, Freedom of Speech is a govt issue.

 

[Ziggurat]

Just to remind everyone, it's still Banned Books Week in USAia.

Just to remind everyone, none of the books they claim are banned are actually banned.

 

[Emily's Cat]

Was that before or after being doused with a banana and salted caramel milkshake prompted him to complain that his opponents had become radicalised?

Which is more acceptable - milkshake or tomato soup?

 

[Emily's Cat]

Is there no powerful Liberal group in the UK that takes fighting for Freedom of Speech very seriously?

We have the ACLU and they are very influential.

Recently, FIRE has taken up the fight for speech.

 

[P.J. Denyer]

Hamas is an enemy of the UK?

We considered Al-Qaeda an enemy of the UK when they committed 9/11 even though that wasn't an attack on us.

 

[Carrot Flower King]

No, at least not with regards to US law.

To paraphrase you: the topic of this thread is your interpretation of situations in the UK.

US law has absolutely no bearing here.

Anything on topic we haven't already been round and round several times?